Current fuel prices....

OK

Hi Tim,

It was suggested to post it this way in order to avoid misunderstandings... nevertheless here it goes... with translation...

Magna.............$ 1.945 dlls per gallon

Premium..........$ 2.297 dlls per gallon

Diesel..............$ 1.612 dlls per gallon

Remember that 1 gallon = 3.7854 liters.

This was done with 1 dollar = $ 11.50 pesos.

Thanks BajaCactus!

Gas in San Diego

Taco de Baja: the fuel price will remain the same until september 30th, so you are in luck....

Surfer Jim: unfortunately no. I am now in Tijuana organizing one of the last shipments of materials to open 12 new rooms at BajaCactus Motel. I believe I will be there next week. Sorry I will miss you.... nevertheless I hope you have a great time!!!....

Tim40: I know, me too........ about your question... I do not understand it correctly, could you please explain a little bit more. If it is fuel related, I am sure I can get you an answer....

[Edited on 9-9-2004 by BajaCactus]

Burro Bob...

Yes.... Octanes are the same as in the US.

Magna is 87 octanes

Premium is 92 octanes

The price for fuel is the same all over Mexico, regulated by Pemex. Except within 20 km south of the border, where a special comission adjusts the price every tuesday in order to match it with US gas stations.

Got it...

Ok Tim40, I understand the question now...however I do not know the exact answer. I think it must be regulated the same way....

I will give a call to the Pemex offices monday morning and ask about that and post that info for you here.....

[Edited on 9-11-2004 by BajaCactus]

Baja Cactus,
Thanks for all the information about fuel prices in Mexico. I always wondered how it worked. Now, thanks to you, I have a better understanding.

Marinas

I haven't been to a lot of marinas in Baja, but don't beleive I have seen one that was a Pemex dealer. At least that had a sign saying it was a Pemex dealer. If a place is not a Pemex dealer, they can charge what you will pay - and often pay gladly.

Thank you!!

MEX gas mileage?

Done!!!

Today, I talked with the Administrator of the Pemex Distribution center in Ensenada and got the following information from them.

About Marinas....the Pemex authorized companies that sell fuel in marinas are regulated exactly the same way as the gas stations we all know, they have to meet the same standards, prices and regulation Pemex imposses all over Mexico. From Ensenada to Guerrero Negro (which is the area the Pemex Ensenada Distribution Center controls), there is only one authorized fuel depot in Marinas and is the one at the Coral&Marina Hotel in Ensenada.

Now, it happens the same as with guys that resell fuel at Punta Prieta and/or Catavi?a. There are some people on the coasts that resell fuel to boats and that do it without permission of Pemex(clandestine), therefore they cannot be regulated and they sell to the price they want.

About where does it come from. Pemex fuel refination installations sometimes do not meet the production needed in Mexico for Premium fuel. When this happens, Pemex has some agreements with a few american companies to buy imported fuel, just enough to complete what they could not produce. There are no stipulated periods or quantities, it just happens sometimes....

This is what I found out. If there is any further information you think we could get, just post it here and we will do the best to find the correct answers.

Info from the U.S. Dept of Energy website:

http://www.fe.doe.gov/international/Western%20Hemisphere/mex... (oct/03)

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/mexico.html (mar/04)

Somewhere in here I saw it noted that Mexico imports close to one-fourth of the gasoline and diesel needed.

One can surmise that much of the needs of the peninsula would be serviced by the imports due to the lack of pipelines and proximity to sources in the U.S. (Los Angeles).



Interesting stuff (to me anyway)...

Thanks for all the info Antonio!! Good stuff.

Regards,
--
Doug

[Edited on 9-15-2004 by BajaNomad]

Baja catus, Thanks, You are a Gold Mine of info. Just for the record I have not got a bad tank of gas in Baja since about 1990 and that was in Chihuahua and that one was so weak that I had to reset the timing to make it back to Deming NM!
That was the old red pump, I don't think there is any difference in gasoline now and freinds with diesels say it is better than the US. As a matter of possible interest I once worked around Texas City ,Texas and often at the Texas Gasoline Refinery I would see tankers loading gasoline and there would be Texaco, Shell, Chevron and others all loading at tne same dock from the same pipe. I asked the dock master about it and he told me that all gasoline was white when made and that the color and any additives were added by the buyer, sure enough he took me over to a valve device and there was a chemist with a can adding dye to the line that was going into one ship, they add it through a "Trap" in to the hose from the pipe to a particular ship but they are all hooked to a common line . One of the ships loading there was a'GLOCO" tanker which at that time was a big Texas discount service station operator, thats where I bought gas from then on. I was on a U.S. Coast Guard ship in the 1970's and we often bought Pemex diesel fuel in Tampico and Progreso when we ran low after a bunch of rescues and tows. Keep up the excellent reports!

Yes...

Thank you Macgyver.

You are right Doug. When Pemex buys imported fuel to Baja from the US, they actually exchange fuel true pipelines. Mexico gives the fuel out from Texas and Baja receives it thru tanks in Rosarito.

The Pemex Administrator also told me that Premium was the only fuel Pemex buys.... magna and diesel is always produced here in Mexico.



[Edited on 9-15-2004 by BajaCactus]