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BLUEFIN TUNA FARMING IN BAJA

goldhuntress - 7-21-2011 at 09:52 AM

Saw this article in the LA Times food section. If you click on the small picture of the swimming tuna there is a photo gallery of the operation.

http://www.latimes.com/features/food/la-fo-bluefin-20110721,0,1014175,full.story

TonyC - 7-21-2011 at 10:39 AM

"We're not using pellets of artificial feed. We're using real food — the natural feed source of the bluefin," Jonsson says as he motors out of the San Diego harbor.

this is my problem with those pens. i've seen these boats as far as el socorro netting bait...and closer to shore than they should be. also what about the yts, wsb,..etc. caught in the nets?

bajajurel - 7-21-2011 at 10:42 AM

Good article. Thanks for posting. All those dines fed to farmed tuna decreases the quality of bait available in SD & Baja and soon they will be over-fished as are the tuna. Over-population of the planet will catch up to us sooner than later. I have been by these pens many times and if you fish the Coronado's it's very difficult to navigate through that area with out your prop catching on something.

Woooosh - 7-21-2011 at 12:02 PM

On Yellow-Fin:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270230456760457645...

WTO Sides With Mexico in Tuna Battle With U.S.

By JEAN GUERRERO

MEXICO CITY—The World Trade Organization has sided with Mexico in a two-decade long trade battle with the U.S. over whether Mexico's tuna fish is "dolphin safe," Mexican officials said Tuesday.

The U.S. can appeal the decision, taken this month, but the ruling means Mexico is likely to win the appeal by September, Mexico's National Aquaculture and Fishing Commission said.

The ruling, which had not been made public until Tuesday, brings Mexico one step closer to being able to export yellow-fin tuna again after the U.S. essentially barred imports in 1991.

Since 1991, Mexico's tuna exports to the U.S. have been limited because the U.S. Commerce Department won't label Mexican tuna as dolphin-safe. But Mexico maintains that although its tuna-catching practices and regulations aren't as strict as those in the U.S., they do meet international standards.

Nkenge Harmon, a spokeswoman for the U.S. Trade Representative's office, confirmed that the WTO dispute panel had ruled on the case, but that the report remained confidential.

"The United States will continue to vigorously pursue the objectives of the dolphin-safe labeling provisions," said Ms. Harmon, adding that the labeling restrictions protect dolphins and provide transparency to consumers.

Both the U.S. and Mexico require onboard inspectors on their tuna vessels during fishing trips and are members of the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission, which helps enforce international dolphin-protection standards. But unlike in the U.S., Mexican fleets catch tuna by locating and encircling dolphins, with which yellow-fin tuna often swim. The practice can lead to dolphin deaths.

Environmentalists in Mexico have said large U.S. tuna companies like StarKist and Bumble Bee won't buy tuna that was caught in association with dolphins, which means that even if Mexico can use the "dolphin-safe" label, the country's tuna won't make much headway in the U.S. market.

"It's more of a political and a trade issue than it is an environmental issue," said Alejandro Olivera, coordinator of the Oceans Campaign for Greenpeace Mexico. Mr. Olivera said information regarding diminishing populations of tuna in the Pacific has led Greenpeace Mexico to become concerned about the overfishing of tuna rather than that of dolphins.

[Edited on 7-21-2011 by Woooosh]

Baja161 - 7-21-2011 at 12:26 PM

There was just a great documentary on the Blue fin and farming on Current TV If you get a chance to check it out Sushi To Slaughter. Interesting!

http://current.com/shows/vanguard/

mcfez - 7-21-2011 at 12:28 PM

There was a debate here some time ago...concerning the farmed fisheries. The use of non natural chemicals to lice.....is a issue. The escape species of fish contaminating the natural schools of the same specious.

It's not all goodie goodie of an idea......but I do not have answers myself on farm fish operations. Good idea...needs help. Sort of like the good idea of those nuke plants in Japan. Not well thought out.

http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2008/08/the-pro...

BajaGeoff - 7-22-2011 at 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by Baja161
There was just a great documentary on the Blue fin and farming on Current TV If you get a chance to check it out Sushi To Slaughter. Interesting!

http://current.com/shows/vanguard/

It was on again last night and I watched it....pretty amazing that some of those fish are sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars when the demand is high. I really love maguro....just not sure about ordering it the next time I get sushi.

Baja161 - 7-23-2011 at 08:24 PM

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I'm thinking the same thing I will be way more aware of it and make the effort not to order it commercially for sure....but if I catch it its wide open shashimi!!!!

BajaGringo - 7-23-2011 at 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by bajajurel
Over-population of the planet will catch up to us sooner than later.

On top of that the orient in general eats a lot more fish per capita than the west and with the ongoing news stories of contaminated food related to the Japanese nuclear accident there will be an even bigger demand.

We have been visited by four different companies in the last several weeks, all looking to buy up as much production as they can, of a variety of species over a five year span. One from Japan, one from Korea and two from China...

wilderone - 7-24-2011 at 08:19 AM

The Japanese should subsidize US beef producers and import beef; and stop demanding that the world satisfy their desires to the detriment of so many. Fisheries worldwide need a chance to recover naturally.

Skipjack Joe - 7-24-2011 at 08:48 AM

On the other hand, the japanese have the longest life expectancy on the planet, mostly due to their seafood diet.

DENNIS - 7-24-2011 at 09:05 AM

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On the other hand, the japanese have the longest life expectancy on the planet, mostly due to their seafood diet.

It would be interesting to compare those figures fifty years from now, what with radiation levels being so high.

J.P. - 7-24-2011 at 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
On the other hand, the japanese have the longest life expectancy on the planet, mostly due to their seafood diet.

It would be interesting to compare those figures fifty years from now, what with radiation levels being so high.

Maybee it can be contributed to the radiation levels 66 years ago. :wow:

DENNIS - 7-24-2011 at 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.

Maybee it can be contributed to the radiation levels 66 years ago. :wow:

OhhhhYeah....didn't think of that.
So.....if we keep dropping bombs on them, they'll live almost forever. Interesting theory. :light:

J.P. - 7-24-2011 at 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by J.P.

Maybee it can be contributed to the radiation levels 66 years ago. :wow:

OhhhhYeah....didn't think of that.
So.....if we keep dropping bombs on them, they'll live almost forever. Interesting theory. :light:

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Yeah, how does it go ,our goverment isn't known for doing the right thing until everything else fails. :lol:

DENNIS - 7-24-2011 at 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by J.P.

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Originally posted by DENNIS

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Originally posted by J.P.

Maybee it can be contributed to the radiation levels 66 years ago. :wow:

OhhhhYeah....didn't think of that.
So.....if we keep dropping bombs on them, they'll live almost forever. Interesting theory. :light:

Yeah, how does it go ,our goverment isn't known for doing the right thing until everything else fails. :lol:

Gitcha fixed up on that quote box mess.

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wilderone - 7-25-2011 at 09:27 AM

"... life expectancy on the planet, mostly due to their seafood diet."
I believe it's debatable whether Japan's life expectancy rates are due to a seafood diet. Could be low obesity rates, or rather, not being overweight due to poverty; hard labor equating to more exercise during a lifetime; a lot of vegetables included in the daily diet; fresh foods, as opposed to processed foods, in the diet; use of herbs and alternative healing methods during a lifetime - an ancient practice in this part of world; devout religious beliefs; less stress. Japan has, by far, the highest stomach cancer rate in the world. And Japan's male life expectancy rate (at 78.0), is lower than several other countries.

mtgoat666 - 7-25-2011 at 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by wilderone
The Japanese should subsidize US beef producers and import beef; and stop demanding that the world satisfy their desires to the detriment of so many. Fisheries worldwide need a chance to recover naturally.

Japan's consumption of natural resources pales in comparison to the USA's consumption of natural resources....
Funny to hear gringos complain about other countries gluttonous consumption of natural resources :lol: