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Update on Temporary Import Permit for boat

ncampion - 8-24-2011 at 07:52 PM

Went to La Paz two days ago to try to get a TIP for my boat in Loreto. Couldn't have been easier, the whole thing took maybe 20 minutes. To get the TIP you need the following: 1) Original and copy of boat registration; 2) Original and copy of your FM3 or FMM (whatever immigration document you have); 3) Original and copy of your Passport; 4) Original and copy of your Calif. Drivers License ??; 5) Serial numbers of the motors. Fill out a simple form, give her $47 USD (credit cards accepted) and she gives you the "Official" TIP and you're on your way. She even speaks English and was very helpful. I brought a bunch of pictures of the boat, with close-ups showing the ID number, engine serial numbers and registration numbers. She took them for the file, but was not too interested in them. They had a sign that talked about a "deposit" that you got back when you took the boat out of the country, but she didn't ask for that, so I didn't ask. It was from $200 - $400 USD depending on the year of your boat. All in all, it was very easy and good for 10 years. Glad we did it.

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bajamikey - 8-24-2011 at 11:31 PM

Where in La Paz ?.......Gov Office,Bank???

ncampion - 8-25-2011 at 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by bajamikey
Where in La Paz ?.......Gov Office,Bank???


Aduana, located right at the Ferry Terminal. Well signed and easy parking also.

BajaWarrior - 8-25-2011 at 08:19 PM

When does one need a TIP to bring a boat to Baja?

Pescador - 8-26-2011 at 09:03 AM

This is also very easy to do over the internet. The site is

http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/siteBanjer/Bicentenario/ii...

dizzyspots - 8-26-2011 at 12:43 PM

so i have been bringing either a 16' kayak..or most recently my 12' tinnie on top of the truck on every trip and never been asked about a TIP???
I was asked...once...at the San Luis crossing about boat registration (US?) but just showed him my Mex fishing license and was allowed to pass...only going as far south as Gonzaga..perhaps BOLA
do I need a TIP for such a small boat...carried on top??

BajaKeela - 8-26-2011 at 12:56 PM

good question...
Does that mean I need a TIP for my zodiac and 15HP in Baja ? I thought they did away with the boat permits a few years back ..

ncampion - 8-26-2011 at 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador
This is also very easy to do over the internet. The site is

http://www.banjercito.com.mx/site/siteBanjer/Bicentenario/ii...


I was going to go this route, but this presumes that you are still in the US. They FedEx the papers to your US (only) address and you have to show ID to get the package. We and the boat are already in Loreto and am not about to tow it back to US just to get the TIP. This worked well for us.

ncampion - 8-26-2011 at 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by BajaKeela
good question...
Does that mean I need a TIP for my zodiac and 15HP in Baja ? I thought they did away with the boat permits a few years back ..


Good Question....
According to the regulations, all boats (not sure what that means - power? sail? non-power?) need a TIP to be brought into Mexico, Baja included. It has been loosely or not enforced in the past, but they are starting to enforce it at more and more places. I got turned down at the launch ramp at Puerto Escondito because I did not have one. It's possible that other launch ramps will start asking for it. I've never been asked at the border, only registration. Oh well....

bajamikey - 9-1-2011 at 09:45 AM

What happens when the permit expires in 10 years? Do you get a mx registration? my boat will never see ca again.

Jack Swords - 9-1-2011 at 04:32 PM

Our TIP ran out last year. We simply renewed it in La Paz for another 10 years. Got a sticker and certificate. We were told it might be easier to just get a new TIP rather than asking for a renewal. I think it was $50USD.

Pescador - 9-2-2011 at 04:02 PM

How it was explained to me was that if you were coming down as a tourist and bringing the boat for a short stay (less than 180) you were ok to bring the boat down to use. If you were going to leave the boat down here for any time, then you had to do a TIP. It also used to reflect on whether you were here with a tourist permit or a FM2 or FM3.
My boat stays down here all the time and I have a 10 year importation. They wear out faster than that, so 10 years have always worked for me.

vgabndo - 9-2-2011 at 08:26 PM

Pescadero, this is as I remember it. I got nervous having my skiff down there all the time, and went to Loreto to do the deed. It was the aduana guy from the airport, and he was scam city. This can easily be done for about $50 bucks, and he was going to help me out with all sorts of details for only $140.00.

:saint:

turtleandtoad - 9-3-2011 at 06:58 PM

It was my understanding that the TIP regulations were based on length of boat (>16') and cc of the engine (>200cc).

But I heard recently that the new (June 2011) regs did away with the boat TIP's altogether.

So, for the tourist, all you needed was the fishing license!

ncampion - 9-4-2011 at 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by turtleandtoad
It was my understanding that the TIP regulations were based on length of boat (>16') and cc of the engine (>200cc).

But I heard recently that the new (June 2011) regs did away with the boat TIP's altogether.

So, for the tourist, all you needed was the fishing license!


OK, except when all the launch ramps start requiring the TIP in order to use the ramp, then what are your going to do. I have never actually seen the applicable regulations, I just want to be able to launch my boat without and trouble. I try to stay as legal as I can in Mexico.

yellowklr - 9-4-2011 at 09:19 AM

sounds like something else to bring more tourists to Baja
NOT

Jack Swords - 9-4-2011 at 09:31 AM

There could be some confusion between the TIP and the boat permit required when one is fishing from the boat. I am saying "could" because we are back in the States and won't return to La Paz until late November and gather all the latest info. The boat permit was required along with fishing licenses for ALL aboard whether they were fishing or not. Our boat is a sailboat, we don't fish, and we never needed the boat permit for the past 14 years. However, we had a TIP for the boat as it was imported, required by our marina. We renewed it last year for another 10 years. Last year they eliminated the boat permit requirement, but still require the fishing licenses. I guess the boat permit served as a permit to use the boat for fishing. I am addressing the issue as the confusion has been around for years, but someone on the ground can verify.

turtleandtoad - 9-4-2011 at 01:48 PM

Jack,
You're right, it was the Boat Permit and not the Boat TIP that was eliminated! (and I'm the guy that should know better, I write the Border Paperwork FAQ for RV.net)

My bad

But I believe there is still a size limit, anything up to a certain length is considered camping gear and is included in your RV TIP, so it does not need one. I just can't find that length in an official document so far.

bajaboy1 - 7-13-2015 at 09:56 PM

Trying to be legal. I have a 15' aluminum boat with a 20hp motor. Trying to figure out if I need a TIP. Only launch across beaches. Stay away from marinas. Really don't want to go to Otay Mesa to get one.

gnukid - 7-13-2015 at 11:08 PM

TIP is for foreign vessel over 4.5M = ~ 15' feet' for 10 years about $52US

Here is the Marina La Paz FAQ http://www.marinadelapaz.com/faq/how-long-can-my-boat-stay-i...

If you have a bigger yacht then the smaller boats, jet skis, helicopters, etc are included with the mainship TIP...


[Edited on 7-14-2015 by gnukid]

LaTijereta - 7-14-2015 at 07:01 AM

Here is the site... Easy

https://www.banjercito.com.mx/registroVehiculos/

You can sit there in your underwear and a cup of coffee and fill it out..
Will arrive in about a week to your US address...:cool:

SFandH - 7-14-2015 at 07:24 AM

From the instructions in the above link:

"The boat must be greater than 4.5m (14.7 ft) in length."

bajaboy1 - 7-15-2015 at 10:11 AM

Dragged my tin boat down to








Dragged my tin boat down to Otay mesa crossing at Tijuana yesterday to get my TIP. I was told they had to see the boat. Not true. To start with, the place is difficult to find and no parking for pickup and trailer. The procedure was quite simple. All they looked at was registration, engine serial number, trailer registration, and passport. It took a while with only one person doing it and a few people ahead of us. If I had the time, I would have tried the internet, but leaving too soon to wait for it to come in the mail. Now I'm wondering what happens if I replace the engine in the future. Do I have to get a new TIP? Probably won't worry about it.








AKgringo - 7-16-2015 at 02:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
From the instructions in the above link:

"The boat must be greater than 4.5m (14.7 ft) in length."


Does this mean that no permit is required for a shorter boat, or that something else is required? I assume that some sort of US registration is required.

The boat I am considering is under the 14.7 foot cutoff with the outboard removed and stored in the boat, but over that when the motor is mounted. any advice on that?

This is an older boat and motor, if that matters.

gnukid - 7-16-2015 at 02:50 PM

No permit for smaller boat less than 4.5m or for tender to yacht.

LaPazRico - 9-3-2015 at 09:39 AM

Quote: Originally posted by AKgringo  
Quote: Originally posted by SFandH  
From the instructions in the above link:

"The boat must be greater than 4.5m (14.7 ft) in length."


Does this mean that no permit is required for a shorter boat, or that something else is required? I assume that some sort of US registration is required.

The boat I am considering is under the 14.7 foot cutoff with the outboard removed and stored in the boat, but over that when the motor is mounted. any advice on that?

This is an older boat and motor, if that matters.


Official boat lengths are always based on the hull only, as shown on your boat registration. That is what is used for the TIP - anything over 4.5m registered length needs a TIP. Marinas sometimes include o/b, swim grid, or other projections in the LOA because they have to rent you a space that actually fits the overall length so it's often more than the registered length, but is irrelevant for TIP.

ncampion - 9-3-2015 at 09:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by bajaboy1  


Now I'm wondering what happens if I replace the engine in the future. Do I have to get a new TIP? Probably won't worry about it.




Interesting question as the engine serial number is on the TIP. I just replaced the 40hp outboard on my Tin boat to replace the one that was stolen. Now the serial numbers will not match. Sounds like a lot of paper work to go through to get that changed, so I'll probably cross my fingers and deal with it if/when it ever becomes a problem.

CJ - 9-3-2015 at 08:26 PM

N. Campion it will be a problem until you sell it...not until then; unless you are transporting it and some official asks for your papers and the serial numbers don't match up. They might consider it a stolen motor