BajaNomad

laptop recommendation?

volcano - 8-28-2011 at 06:20 AM

any recommendations for small laptop, biggest battery and internal antennae..for remote communication area with no cell tower or power ?

Russ - 8-28-2011 at 06:33 AM

macbook air
Just got one and its amazing

bonanza bucko - 8-28-2011 at 06:51 AM

Agree....MacBook Air or Pro. Macs are about twice as good as ay PC.

BB

willyAirstream - 8-28-2011 at 07:43 AM

ditto above
second choice - Asus

Hook - 8-28-2011 at 09:14 AM

Fujitsu or Toshiba in the PC world. Still lots of REAL Japanese parts in these mfgrs. Some Chinese stuff, of course.

woody with a view - 8-28-2011 at 09:22 AM

i bought a toshiba L675D 17" for xmas and love it. battery life seems about 3 hours....

scouter - 8-28-2011 at 09:29 AM

ever play with a i pad?? thats all i travel with now

volcano - 8-28-2011 at 09:36 AM

the mac air is a little more than I can spend, unfortunately. I know nothing about I pad's.....the eastcape where I go has no cell tower service. would an ipad have a good internal antennae, and long battery life ? to just communicate by email...it is my main need there

Russ - 8-28-2011 at 09:55 AM

I googled "iPad antenna" and got this info. I don't know the first thing about either the iPad or iPhone.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/195430/outofthisworld_apple_i...
Antenna booster
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/antenna-booster/id379786818?m...

LaTijereta - 8-28-2011 at 10:59 AM

Get one with a HDMI port... To handle future "media" needs when they come up...

Just my 2 cents...:cool:

Bill Collector - 8-28-2011 at 11:23 AM

You'll love the IPad it's the only thing I use here.

Mariz - 8-28-2011 at 11:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by volcano
any recommendations for small laptop, biggest battery and internal antennae..for remote communication area with no cell tower or power ?


I may have misunderstood, but if there is no cell tower for a cell phone or 3G connection, I'm not sure any computer will help you unless you get a satellite connection like Hughes.

As far as computers go HP has some nice notebooks and laptops that are pretty cheap. We have several and they have served us well.

Good Luck.

Comparison MacBook Air & iMac

Russ - 8-28-2011 at 12:24 PM


I know they are more expensive but....

BajaNomad - 8-28-2011 at 12:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by volcano
to just communicate by email...it is my main need


You may just want to get a netbook with a 6-cell battery - looking at 6-8 hours of battery life with one of these low power-use units. They're great for email, and light Internet/other use. Make sure it's a 6 cell battery though, as not all are supplied with one (many are 3-cell).

They exist in the USD$200-350 range for new and/or refurbished. Used ones aren't selling for much less right now on ebay and craigslist unless they are much older and considerably less useful. Also with used units, the batteries tend to have less life in 'em.

Range-wise, I'd imagine that all of these systems mentioned are bound by the type of antenna they have, and dependent upon if it's internal or external. Essentially they should all be somewhat similar unless they have an external antenna somehow.

Me thinks it's better to get the type of unit you need, and if you need more antenna range, buy something as an add-on that'll get you that. This has been discussed here before in numerous threads.

The netbooks at geeks.com (they're in Oceanside, CA) tend to start at $200, but it doesn't look that way right now. It's an ever-changing lineup of what's available. I don't see any that note 6-cell battery either - but you can keep checking back:
http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=1208

Geeks.com also has this USB adapter:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-USB-WLAN-ADA-2&a...

For higher range than this, check out what these suppliers have:
http://www.wifi-link.com
http://www.radiolabs.com

More being discussed here:
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=47214

If you can find a tablet computer that works for you on all counts you're looking for (including budget) it might also be the way to go.

:)

wessongroup - 8-28-2011 at 12:44 PM

Really styling there Russ... mobile and desktop... nice setup... is that your weather station to the left in the picture...

Oh.. your desk is way to neat.... :):)

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volcano - 8-28-2011 at 01:46 PM

thanks all, and super admin... My only power source will be my car battery for now, and my neighbors are powered up with solar and have an internet signal I can buy/use....so add-on antennaes won't work unless I power them, which I will not do at this time....thus my limitations.

Cisco - 8-28-2011 at 02:31 PM

Might check this out:

http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2010-11/testing-goods-...

http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/gallery/2011-08/gallery-steve-... Look at all the photos for different gadgets.

http://www.popsci.com/gadgets/article/2011-08/jobsian-philos...

BajaNomad - 8-28-2011 at 10:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by volcano
add-on antennaes won't work unless I power them
I believe all that were indicated are powered off the laptop unit itself via USB and do not require any additional power to be supplied. fyi.

Woooosh - 8-28-2011 at 10:56 PM

Buy the cheapest refurb HP Laptop you can on www.woot.com when they offer one. (woot only sells on items per day and changes at 10pm pst) No tax, $5 Shipping no matter what the items is. Almost a disposable price- which in our salt air should be a consideration for any electronics you bring down. Why spend a grand? Bought this one last week:

HP Pavilion Intel Dual-Core Notebook with 17.3” BrightView LED Display
You ordered 1 HP Pavilion G72-C55DX Intel Dual-Core 2GHz, 4GB, 500GB, 17.3” BrightView HD+ LED, 802.11n, W7HP.
which each cost $379.99
for a subtotal of $379.99
plus shipping + $5.00
for a total of $384.99

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Bob and Susan - 8-29-2011 at 04:39 AM

yea russ...
aren't they supposed to look something like this...

daq.JPG - 48kB

Get a netbook 10-11 in. display

bajadave1 - 8-29-2011 at 05:30 AM

We just bought a new Gateway 17 1/2 in display, its our desktop. also just bought two netbooks, one is ASUS the other is a HP,we can take either to another room, or outdoors so we can both be online at the same time. pay attention to the battery info provided earlier. We are amazed by the battery time of the two mini's. we now use them for our frequent trips NOB. I am partial to the ASUS. I ordered it with XP rather than Windows 7.
:yes:
Dave

volcano - 8-29-2011 at 06:17 AM

thanks for all the great guidelines and info...I'm a computer idiot

BajaNomad - 8-29-2011 at 07:55 AM

Just remember that if your primary purpose is email - that netbooks are superb for this, cost less than a typical laptop/notebook, and with a 6-cell battery will have longer battery life.

Here's one to look at right now, it's a manufacturer refurbished ASUS from Tiger Direct for $200:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-det...

Save the shipping cost (in 48 states) by ordering from Tiger Direct (at least on this one) via eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Eee-PC-1005HAB-RBLU005S-Refurbi...

:biggrin:

volcano - 8-29-2011 at 01:53 PM

thanks BN admin........so I looked at the refurbed Asus.......what additional antennae (that could be powered off the device directly) would you suggest, if any? I need to arrive at my cabin there ..able to receive emergency messages from home (Mom's health).thanks for your very good and needed help. My neighbors nearby have the neighborhood signal(provider?), and I understand I may need to go closer to them. That is not a problem

willyAirstream - 8-29-2011 at 02:02 PM

My Asus receives up to 100 yds away, But it depends if your neighbor has a small exterior router which will help u greatly. You could buy him one for $30 bucks or so. Asus makes an indestructible net book. ck ebay

wessongroup - 8-29-2011 at 04:34 PM

Some great info ... thanks... it all helps...

Another ... buy used or refurbished by mfg. ... one or two years can make difference and you can find out how "good" they are by reviews .. unless you have to have a new what ever... just saying :):)



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volcano - 8-29-2011 at 04:51 PM

what my neighbor said I might need was an Ethernet Bridge, and a Netgear Pro safe indoor/outdoor patch panel.unless my laptop had a strong enough internal antenna. I believe those items need power. So those won't work for my situation. I can certainly take a walk to receive signal. Wish I knew more.....and I am relying on all of htis info you folks are helping me with....tyvm!!!

mulegemichael - 8-29-2011 at 04:53 PM

macbook pro; no question....it's got all the stuff.

windgrrl - 8-29-2011 at 04:54 PM

My ACER net book is pretty cheap and pretty good (e-mail, surfing, photo stuff, movies). My HP basic laptop same. Match up with a small iPod + iTunes, decent dock speaker and it's all good for the road. If you're going to use Skype, you'll want an appropriate mike/headset and a strong WiFi connection. Don't forget to check your local library for free ebook and audiobook access.

Why not just buy new, reliable and cheap from a good local shop and get warranty?

BajaNomad - 8-29-2011 at 07:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by volcano
what my neighbor said I might need was an Ethernet Bridge, and a Netgear Pro safe indoor/outdoor patch panel.unless my laptop had a strong enough internal antenna. I believe those items need power. So those won't work for my situation. I can certainly take a walk to receive signal. Wish I knew more.....and I am relying on all of htis info you folks are helping me with....tyvm!!!
Correct, the bridge will likely require AC power additionally. The patch panel is an antenna. Frankly, I find this to be overkill with your situation. JMHO.

BajaNomad - 8-29-2011 at 07:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by volcano
what additional antennae (that could be powered off the device directly) would you suggest, if any?
Hard to say. Too many unknown factors. How far away is the wireless access point? What kind of antenna/range on the access point? What's the height of the access point (and antenna of the access point)? Can the access point antenna be directionally aligned better with your location? What's between you and the access point (buildings? what type of construction in the walls of these buildings, including yours?) - or, do you have "line of sight" directly to the access point?

So, who knows??????

The unit itself might work if there's little in the way between you and the access point, or you might need all kinds of antenna gain.

Find out from others nearby what's working for them reception-wise. (if there is anyone that is)

Here are some possible options, and remember that these USB devices, while powered off the laptop/netbook - will use more battery power than the unit all by itself...

6 dBi antenna on a USB adapter that plugs straight into the unit ($14++):
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-USB-WLAN-ADA-2&a...

9 dBi antenna at end of 5 foot cable ($51++):
http://www.wifi-link.com/product.php?action=product&clas...

12 dBi panel antenna at end of 10 foot cable ($106++):
http://www.wifi-link.com/product.php?action=product&clas...

8 dBi external antenna at end of 20 foot cable - manufacturer states range of up to 2000' with clear line-of-site ($121++):
http://www.wifi-link.com/product.php?action=product&clas...

Not much else I can help you with here. You'll need to do your own research to determine, what - if any - antenna gain you'll need.

Willy's suggestion of helping the owner of the access point upgrade their system's abilities should not go ignored either. Just something else to look into and consider.

BTW... check your u2u (look for link at top right of screen). I sent you a private message with links to 2 used units currently available in SoCal for under $200 you might want to check out. Same ASUS model as previously mentioned.

Good luck.

BajaNomad - 8-29-2011 at 07:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Why not just buy new, reliable and cheap from a good local shop and get warranty?


Have you ever tried to get warranty service?

:rolleyes:

;D

wessongroup - 8-30-2011 at 10:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Why not just buy new, reliable and cheap from a good local shop and get warranty?


Have you ever tried to get warranty service?

:rolleyes:

;D


That's something that has really changed... big time..

Had two under extended warranty from apple a G5 tower and a 17" laptop.... the G5 was found by the "genius" at the "Apple Store in once cases to have had a spill, warranty void ... the other an authorized Dealer with repair in San Diego ... we drove up from Baja for that rejection ... small dent on a corner...

Seems Apple has changed it fix it approach under warranty... any scratches, dents... spills ... all void the extended three year warranty...

Thanks Apple ... know you guys are really hurting... to bad you stop servicing anything which you can prevent by external inspection, rather than fixing... what broke...

On my last purchase, of a new 17' Apple laptop this year.. I did not buy the warranty... as I know there we be something which will be found as an "exception" ... I live 24/7 with a computer...

I'm in bed 24/7.. with a mobile tray across my bed... I eat, drink, work if one can call doing your checking work, and live in bed... and sometimes the laptop gets a bid dirty from my use.. and sometimes I even get scratches on things... that's the way I am with tools... they are for work... ya used them... not keeping them in their original containers...

Agree totally on the point about repairs... I do my own now... and if the cost to repair is to high ... I part it out.. on eBay..

I made more parting out the G5 which Apple would not fix selling on ebay to pay for half the cost of my new Apple laptop... from Shanghai China ... where repairs appear to be going too... also have broken down the laptop and found someone in AL that will replace the logic board for $400 dollars .. send in the old and get a new one... Apples costs to replace the logic board ... $1,300 dollars.. hell I bought it used for $1,400 .. 17"/2.4 gHz/250HD.. with 4 gig ram...

Again... I used to know a lot of folks who used to work Apple back in the 80's .... it used to be a great place to work ... and their products have always given me what "I" needed to get my work done .... no matter what I needed... could always find a way with Apple and the applications which used to be out there for the Apple...

Just to ramble... recall a "graphics" program developed by Silicon Software (was bought up by Adobe) ... it was one app... which one could do just about anything with ... Adobe... who snapped up their code and incorporated all into to what we now have with Adobe Creative suites and their rather creative prices for the graphics programs and/or suites'... along with annual updates for at least 100 or so... to keep up with the the "package and stay current"...

That app, from Silicon Software... was ... $115.00 USD with fee upgrades... that's right can you remember that upgrades used to be free... now those were the good old days...

For Adobe ... I still have an old G4 dual 1.25 which I used in the for our security camera, has a couple of old hd for back up ... and for running and old Adobe CS2 and some other software which has not been rewritten for OSX... and this old one run's both platforms OSX and the old OS9 classic.. which allows me to still used software over 10 years old... and which is perfectly still good...

Know they have made improvements in Photoshop, and the rest of the suite ... however, my uses today are not the same as they were 10 years ago... so it all works just fine for me.. the old and the new...

Still find Apples interface more to my liking.. and we also have PC's... A HP 17" laptop and a Gateway 17" laptop ... both work just fine ... but, I always find myself back to my Apple.. been too long with them.. wouldn't like to redo all the software.. for marginal improvements ... as wysiwyg on both platforms pretty much today......

Some really good thoughts from this thread .... thanks to all... again... :):)



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windgrrl - 8-30-2011 at 11:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Why not just buy new, reliable and cheap from a good local shop and get warranty?


Have you ever tried to get warranty service?

:rolleyes:

;D


Yup - tried and succeeded with a Gateway bought at a big box store once (mi esposa spent many hours on hold to find out how to get service). We mailed the laptop away to Texas and it came back better than new. After that, we switched back to buying at an independent locally owned shop. Trying to get warranty on anything these days is a major undertaking, but then, computer stuff does become rapidly obsolete so maybe it's a wash?:biggrin:






[Edited on 9-2-2011 by BajaNomad]

BajaNomad - 9-2-2011 at 10:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
The netbooks at geeks.com (they're in Oceanside, CA) tend to start at $200, but it doesn't look that way right now. It's an ever-changing lineup of what's available. I don't see any that note 6-cell battery either - but you can keep checking back:
http://www.geeks.com/products_sc.asp?cat=1208


Noticed that there are a couple of 6-cell netbooks available over at Geeks.com (Oceanside, CA) right now for $195++.

This I believe is the same one Tiger Direct also has:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=1005HAB-RBLU005S-PB-...
(I think Tiger Direct's price with shipping/tax will be less though)

This one has a barely faster processor along with bluetooth network capability:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=EPC1000HE-BLU002X-PB...

BajaNomad - 9-2-2011 at 10:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl

Yup - tried and succeeded with a Gateway bought at a big box store once (mi esposa spent many hours on hold to find out how to get service). We mailed the laptop away to Texas and it came back better than new. After that, we switched back to buying at an independent locally owned shop. Trying to get warranty on anything these days is a major undertaking, but then, computer stuff does become rapidly obsolete so maybe it's a wash?:biggrin:


Thank you for sharing.

From my own experience, and from what I've heard from others, the experience rarely meets - if even approaches - expectations.

:biggrin:

DENNIS - 9-2-2011 at 10:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaNomad
From my own experience, and from what I've heard from others, the experience rarely meets - if even approaches - expectations.

:biggrin:


Expect the worst and life will be a gratifying ordeal. :biggrin: