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BLACKOUT

krafty - 9-8-2011 at 05:58 PM

We were out here again in Rosarito for about 45 minutes-but so cal, points east, parts of AZ are still out. Too much air con? May be related to a problem at San Onofre they say. And yes, it is hotter than snot over there! 105 in Mission Viejo, CA

Russ - 9-8-2011 at 06:07 PM

http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_D_outage09...

Paulina - 9-8-2011 at 08:30 PM

Sounds like it's time to break out the Coleman lanterns, light the bbq for a late dinner, play a board game by candle light, sleep out in the back yard where it might be cooler than indoors and enjoy the peace and quiet.

But that's just me.

P>*)))>{

jbcoug - 9-8-2011 at 08:46 PM

Paulina,

I like the way you think!

John

DENNIS - 9-8-2011 at 09:06 PM

Just came on for us....9 PM.

David K - 9-8-2011 at 09:58 PM

3:40 pm to just befor 9 pm here in Oceanside, CA

I guess...

Mexray - 9-8-2011 at 10:09 PM

...So-Cal's stimulus money ran out...:rolleyes:

wessongroup - 9-8-2011 at 10:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Paulina
Sounds like it's time to break out the Coleman lanterns, light the bbq for a late dinner, play a board game by candle light, sleep out in the back yard where it might be cooler than indoors and enjoy the peace and quiet.

But that's just me.

P>*)))>{


Sounds nice... a little slower and quieter...

[Edited on 9-9-2011 by wessongroup]

bajajeffrey - 9-8-2011 at 11:00 PM

How far into baja did this effect?

Pompano - 9-9-2011 at 03:16 AM

All caused by just one guy's mistake at a facility in Arizona?

Carumba!...the 'what if's' are alarming...and real.

baronvonbob - 9-9-2011 at 07:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
All caused by just one guy's mistake at a facility in Arizona?

Carumba!...the 'what if's' are alarming...and real.


Funny my Solar is still working. That is unless the Big Guy makes a mistake and pulls the sun.

Bajaboy - 9-9-2011 at 07:32 AM

We enjoyed chatting with neighbors, sitting on patio under the STARS, and now taking advantage of the day off as all schools are closed.

BajaNomad - 9-9-2011 at 09:32 AM

The datacenter for the forums.bajanomad.com server is in San Diego and was running on diesel generators throughout the outage. Nice to see it all worked as intended.

:)

astrobaja - 9-9-2011 at 09:51 AM

We just got a cancelation e-mail from a client who lives in SD saying his wife is a bit too freaked out by the effects of the blackout to travel. He said there were people lining up at stores for supplies, pushing and shoving, people in a slightly panicky state because they could not get gas, etc.

Does urban culture really exist on such a razors edge that pandemonium is always slightly imminent? Do people really forget so easily that all relies on electricity? Why not do as one poster recommended, break out the coleman and play cards and relax? Now if a real emergency occurs how widespread would panic actually be? Pretty scary how un-realient urban dwellers have become!

I say urban dwellers because back when the big ice storm hit Ontario some years back people in the country were well prepared for the minus 20 weather with their wood stoves. We were without power for 2 weeks, but neigbors kicked in and helped each other out in a calm jovial fashion. I expect the same would happen here in rural Baja!

Makes us really glad to be off grid!

mtgoat666 - 9-9-2011 at 10:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by astrobaja
We just got a cancelation e-mail from a client who lives in SD saying his wife is a bit too freaked out by the effects of the blackout to travel. He said there were people lining up at stores for supplies, pushing and shoving, people in a slightly panicky state because they could not get gas, etc.

Does urban culture really exist on such a razors edge that pandemonium is always slightly imminent? Do people really forget so easily that all relies on electricity?


don't know nothin about panic. everybody in my neighborhood was peaceful, kids enjoyed the excitement of blackout and playing with flashlights in dark neighborhood, and night sky w/o city lights was nice last night, i enjoyed sitting in yard drinking wine. twas a bit toasty to be w/o a fan

only annoying thing was a couple neighbors that ran their RV generators and caused noise pollution.

astrobaja - 9-9-2011 at 10:24 AM

well I was thinking about the 100's of SD area amatuer astronomers that for once had no light pollution! Too bad it occured on an almost full moon night:yes:

vgabndo - 9-9-2011 at 10:42 AM

Here in the forgotten north our outages are almost always storm related, but the last time we were without power for a few days all went smoothly and it was a BETTER place to live because of people actually HELPING each other. The kind of mob mentality that seems to sweep through the cities when the lights go out makes me wish I lived more than a tank of gas away from those nasty places. When one lives under a broad black star filled sky EVERY clear night, it is hard to understand why anyone would choose to live otherwise. People in the cities seem to have forgotten that we are not supposed to be able to SEE the air and being able to see the night sky is NORMAL, not just something that happens in a power outage!!!! I wonder if living like that contributes to the incidence of violence in the panic inspired gas lines?

SFandH - 9-9-2011 at 12:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
All caused by just one guy's mistake at a facility in Arizona?

Carumba!...the 'what if's' are alarming...and real.


And a whole bunch of systems that are supposed keep this guy's mistake from spreading that did not work. Ancient power distribution system.

The annual compensation of the guy in charge of Sempra Energy was $8,400,000 in 2010. Maybe they should buy some new equipment and reduce this guy's pay by 5 million or so. I know 3 million would be roughing it, but times are tough.

Skeet/Loreto - 9-9-2011 at 12:30 PM

This is an excellent Thread with some great Posts!

As you read the various Posts it does eem that in some of the Cities and closer area to large Populations the "Masses" have not been taught nor learned how to take care of themselves. You can see it everyday in the smaller Govt Agencies telling people how to act if they run into a Feral Hog!!

But is it not great to be around those people who get together in the time of a Ruckas which they cannot control.
Please remember to teach your Grandkids to be aware of what goes on around them. Do not always let and adult control you and your Thoughts.THINK FOR YOURSELVES.

Sure wish I was at San Nicholas or out at the isla Delefonso right now.

A Friend in Primo Tapia, Rosarito

Gypsy Jan - 9-9-2011 at 12:39 PM

Told us that many people were very upset and trying to buy extra food, water and gas, but the registers/gas pumps weren't working and so, nobody knew what to do.

DENNIS - 9-9-2011 at 12:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Told us that many people were very upset and trying to buy extra food, water and gas, but the registers/gas pumps weren't working and so, nobody knew what to do.


I suppose it will take more than this to prompt some people to think ahead and be prepared.

Cisco - 9-9-2011 at 07:51 PM

I was able to witness a fine example of Mexican ingenuity in action during the blackout in Pacific Beach.

Don't remember the name of the taco shop on the corner of Everts and Garnet but it was the ONLY game in town. Everything was shut down and no-one in P.B. is able to make their own food anymore, everybody goes out, always, and the starving college group was in town also.

At the taco shop, where they cook on gas, the cook had pulled his idling pick-up to the open back door, lights on bright to illuminate the little kitchen area and had a line of clients running all the way to Fanuel St.

Power came back on in P.B. at one in the morning.

woody with a view - 9-9-2011 at 08:11 PM

we keep 25 gallons of fresh water in the garage. we filled coolers and other items to use to flush the toilet in case it turned out to be days long. the propane fridge and lantern were pulled out before it got too dark to see. a good trial run for 2012. 3 bbq tanks, etc.... i made sure the hardware was loaded, also!

where can i get a small solar powered radio? those crank style suck!:light:

[Edited on 9-10-2011 by woody with a view]

Hi, Cisco

Gypsy Jan - 9-9-2011 at 08:17 PM

Chique Nada.

Mexican ingenuity.

BajaGringo - 9-9-2011 at 08:23 PM

Kaito Voyager Solar/Dynamo Emergency Radio

Lucky...

estebanis - 9-10-2011 at 09:07 AM

We are lucky that blackout didn't go further! The voltage was very unstable well beyond the blacked out area for some time. All I have to fix is one alarm point that failed to come in on a monitoring unit. All of my other systems that I have worked on over that past many years worked great and saved us from the blackout spreading.
I have a screenshot of the San Diego system with all the flows showing zero and Substation switches open. Glad to hear in the news that Govenor Moonbeam is going to look into fixing the reliability of the states e-grid. Pete Wilson started it Gray Davis failed to make a decision. And the 33% green power requirement surely doesn't help as that stuff is an unreliable source.
Did anybody notice that SDG&E relies on Nuke power? Palo Verde out of Arizona and San Onofre to the north. They tried to beef up their system and ran into the usual NIMBY issues.
The infrastructure is aging fast and the load is growing even faster...
One good thing. What I do (Automation of the Grid) is going to be in high demand when I retire and come back 6 months a year as a "double dipper"!
Esteban:biggrin:

durrelllrobert - 9-11-2011 at 09:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pompano
All caused by just one guy's mistake at a facility in Arizona?

Carumba!...the 'what if's' are alarming...and real.
.... and the media did everything but give some future terrorist directions how to repaet this act!

durrelllrobert - 9-11-2011 at 09:38 AM

Was anyone crossing the border into the US during the blackout? Just wondering what the affect of the blackout was at those places.

AmoPescar - 9-11-2011 at 02:39 PM

THE GREAT 2011 BLACKOUT -

Whether you live in the greater San Diego area or somewhere else...This event should be a wake up call to us to BE PREPARED!

We didn't have to go through a scorching fire, destructive earthquake, devasatating floods, destroyer hurricane or shattering tornado to be put on notice of our need to ready for the next big emergency. While millions of SD residents were inconvenienced by this event, there was very little physical or collateral damage. Most of the damage we'll see will be economic.

SO...let's ALL use this as a call to be ready for the next major event that will happen. It's not a matter of 'IF' it will happen, we all know it WILL happen.

As the Boy Scout motto says... "Be Prepared" Start your preparatiions TODAY!


Miguelamo :yes: YES :yes: YES :yes: YES

Bajaboy - 9-11-2011 at 02:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AmoPescar
THE GREAT 2011 BLACKOUT -

Whether you live in the greater San Diego area or somewhere else...This event should be a wake up call to us to BE PREPARED!

We didn't have to go through a scorching fire, destructive earthquake, devasatating floods, destroyer hurricane or shattering tornado to be put on notice of our need to ready for the next big emergency. While millions of SD residents were inconvenienced by this event, there was very little physical or collateral damage. Most of the damage we'll see will be economic.

SO...let's ALL use this as a call to be ready for the next major event that will happen. It's not a matter of 'IF' it will happen, we all know it WILL happen.

As the Boy Scout motto says... "Be Prepared" Start your preparatiions TODAY!


Miguelamo :yes: YES :yes: YES :yes: YES


2 million gallon sewage spill into San Diego bay and area beaches is pretty serious to me.

Cisco - 9-11-2011 at 02:49 PM

"Was anyone crossing the border into the US during the blackout? Just wondering what the affect of the blackout was at those places. Bob Durrell".

Sorry folk's I don't know how to post directly to a post I wish to answer. Need some enlightenment here.

But, to answer Bob's inquiry it worked "just like the dime novel said". A friend of mine was able to get her Aunt, Uncle and an older brother across.

AmoPescar - 9-11-2011 at 02:55 PM

SURE...that's serious, but it WILL dissipate in a few days! They happen all the time and there's little damage compared to a town being mowed down by a tornado or whatever. Just saying...BE PREPARED!
Quote:
Originally posted by Bajaboy
Quote:
Originally posted by AmoPescar
THE GREAT 2011 BLACKOUT -

Whether you live in the greater San Diego area or somewhere else...This event should be a wake up call to us to BE PREPARED!

We didn't have to go through a scorching fire, destructive earthquake, devasatating floods, destroyer hurricane or shattering tornado to be put on notice of our need to ready for the next big emergency. While millions of SD residents were inconvenienced by this event, there was very little physical or collateral damage. Most of the damage we'll see will be economic.

SO...let's ALL use this as a call to be ready for the next major event that will happen. It's not a matter of 'IF' it will happen, we all know it WILL happen.

As the Boy Scout motto says... "Be Prepared" Start your preparatiions TODAY!


Miguelamo :yes: YES :yes: YES :yes: YES


2 million gallon sewage spill into San Diego bay and area beaches is pretty serious to me.