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Pemex Stations

J.P. - 10-3-2011 at 08:45 PM

Could soneone establish the method Mexico uses for opening new stations.
For instance out near to my house there is a new Pemex that is complete but hasn't opened for at least the last two years.
on another thread there has been a lot of discussion about a pemex in El. R????? looks to me like they really need one in Catavina. it would make that part of the trip more relaxing.
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Roberto - 10-3-2011 at 08:53 PM

Pemex stations are franchises.

bajaguy - 10-3-2011 at 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by J.P.
..... For instance out near to my house there is a new Pemex that is complete but hasn't opened for at least the last two years.............

Has not yet pumped one liter of gas, but has earned the "Quali" designation!!!!! :lol:

David K - 10-4-2011 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy

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Originally posted by J.P.
..... For instance out near to my house there is a new Pemex that is complete but hasn't opened for at least the last two years.............

Has not yet pumped one liter of gas, but has earned the "Quali" designation!!!!! :lol:

Amazing what money can buy, eh?

David K - 10-4-2011 at 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.
Could soneone establish the method Mexico uses for opening new stations.
For instance out near to my house there is a new Pemex that is complete but hasn't opened for at least the last two years.
on another thread there has been a lot of discussion about a pemex in El. R????? looks to me like they really need one in Catavina. it would make that part of the trip more relaxing.
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The Pemex in El Rosario is owned by Baja Nomad member 'BajaCactus' (who owns the beautiful motel next door, too).

76 miles away is Cataviña where (in 1974) a Pemex was opened to service the new highway's traffic... across the highway from the hotel. Next door to the Pemex was 'Parador' or rest area... sunken, air conditioned relaxation area, snack bar, bathrooms... as the Mexican government believed there would be a need for rest areas with such facilities to service the new highway's traffic. There was no town of Cataviña in 1973... Only the nearby Rancho Santa Ynez with food and bunkhouse lodging.

The Pemex and Parador eventually closed... The Pemex here and at Parador Punta Prieta (60 miles south) both failed do to poor management by the ejidos who were 'given' the stations to run, as well as other business difficulties in this remote region.

Employees were few and far away, banks (for securing the money) were a hundred+ miles away in either San Quintin or Guerrero Negro, and Pemex would only extend so much credit for fuel deliveries.

However, with the closing of Cataviña and Parador Punta Prieta (The L.A. Bay highway junction), 'independent' gasoline distributors immediately filled the void and even today, sell gasoline from 5 gallon cans at these locations for about a dollar a gallon above Pemex prices. One thing is good besides having gas there if you need it... you get a true 5 gallons for the money!

J.P. - 10-4-2011 at 10:11 AM

Looks like in town they build stations next door to each other then where they are needed most you have to rely on a guy selling it out of a 55 gallon drum. look's like the intersection of bay of L.A. and highway 1 would be a perfect spot for a new Pemex people traveling through there shure could use a safety net. I can rember several years ago I had some anxious moments passing through that area pulling a 5th wheel travel trailer.

David K - 10-4-2011 at 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.
Looks like in town they build stations next door to each other then where they are needed most you have to rely on a guy selling it out of a 55 gallon drum. look's like the intersection of bay of L.A. and highway 1 would be a perfect spot for a new Pemex people traveling through there shure could use a safety net. I can rember several years ago I had some anxious moments passing through that area pulling a 5th wheel travel trailer.

Safety net always in place, thanks to business-minded people. Gas has been sold there for ever, out of 5 gallon cans... as I said above. There are 2 Pemex stations at Bahia de los Angeles, 41 miles east of Hwy. 1.

J.P. - 10-4-2011 at 11:23 AM

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Buying gas out of a 55 gallon drum is not a very sensebale option.you never know what they might do to get that HONEST 5gal measurement just to make shure I could ask if they have the DAVID K. seal of approval , or check to see if they Know the Nomad Seceret Handshake.Geeeeeeeeeeessssssss DAVID

David K - 10-4-2011 at 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.
Safety net always in place, thanks to business-minded people. Gas has been sold there for ever, out of 5 gallon cans... as I said above. There are 2 Pemex stations at Bahia de los Angeles, 41 miles east of Hwy. 1.

Why do you keep repeating "55 gallon drum"??? I have never, ever bought gas at the two places mentioned out of a drum.

Alfonso (the former gasoline salesman at Cataviña) made the 152 mile round trip to El Rosario to refill his 5 gallon cans... and only added a dollar a gallon to the price for his round trip, truck expense, and personal income.

Now, last time I bought gas there a different person was there, and said Alfonso was retired from selling gas. He was a bit higher, but I was using dollars and not pesos... I appreciated the service to insure I made it to El Rosario, coming from Gonzaga Bay (where that Pemex was closed for Siesta).

Anyway, I explained why the two Pemex stations were closed (you see the abandoned buildings, right?) at Cataviña and Parador Punta Prieta.

There are also abandoned Pemex stations at San Agustin and Rosarito (south of Punta Prieta)... probably for the same reasons.

mtgoat666 - 10-4-2011 at 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Safety net always in place, thanks to business-minded people.

more importantly, how clean are the bathrooms at the catavina "jerry can service station?" :lol:

durrelllrobert - 10-4-2011 at 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy

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Originally posted by J.P.
..... For instance out near to my house there is a new Pemex that is complete but hasn't opened for at least the last two years.............

Has not yet pumped one liter of gas, but has earned the "Quali" designation!!!!! :lol:

It's my understanding that currently there are 2 (possibly 3) reasons it still hasn't opened:

1. PEMEX will not extend credit to the owner to fill the two grades of gasoline and deisel tanks and he doesn't have the cash to pay for it himself.

2. The electric transformer that the owner paid for and CFE installed is only big enough for the OXXO mart and he needs to buy, and have installed, a larger one for the PEMEX operation and he doesn't have the cash to pay for it.

(3. The main reason that and he doesn't have the cash to pay for 1 and 2 above is that he is incarcerated)

David K - 10-4-2011 at 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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Originally posted by David K
Safety net always in place, thanks to business-minded people.

more importantly, how clean are the bathrooms at the catavina "jerry can service station?" :lol:

With hundreds of miles of open desert, you actually want to use a gas station bathroom? I didn't know goats needed that kind of facility to do their business?

J.P. - 10-4-2011 at 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert

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Originally posted by bajaguy

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Originally posted by J.P.
..... For instance out near to my house there is a new Pemex that is complete but hasn't opened for at least the last two years.............

Has not yet pumped one liter of gas, but has earned the "Quali" designation!!!!! :lol:

Thanks Bob thats the most belivable explination I have heard yet,

Barry A. - 10-4-2011 at 12:01 PM

For years you could fill up at the La Pinta hotel at Catavina from pumps just outside the Hotel and slightly north of the main building. What happened to that concession??? I always found it a lot more convenient than the PEMEX directly across the street.

In all the years of travelling in Baja (about 55 years) I never used a PEMEX bathroom once----------why would ANYBODY use those "bathrooms"???

Barry

J.P. - 10-4-2011 at 12:06 PM

To eleminate any futher stress on our journeys up and Baja Maybe we could get David K. to Publish a map of all his approved gas stops up and down Baja keeping ind mind most of us dont ride in one of those gas sipping Toy trucks. :lol:

Leo - 10-4-2011 at 01:13 PM

I second that JP. a map including the ones that sell DIESEL.
Cheers!

BOLA Turn Off Gas

skippermike - 10-4-2011 at 01:15 PM

J.P., for what it is or is not worth, the last time I got some "backup" fuel at the BOLA road it was from a drum standing in the back of a pickup. There was also another entrepenour selling from 5 gal jugs.
Didn't want you to doubt your memory ...

David K - 10-4-2011 at 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by J.P.
To eleminate any futher stress on our journeys up and Baja Maybe we could get David K. to Publish a map of all his approved gas stops up and down Baja keeping ind mind most of us dont ride in one of those gas sipping Toy trucks. :lol:

Hwy. 1:

Well, since Baja Cactus (El Rosario) is an EASY (under) one tank drive from my home (280 miles)... I don't need another in between!

If going south, the next fill up is at Villa Jesus Maria that includes a taco or tamale stop next door...

Then the station next to the harbor at Santa Rosalia, on the east side of the road right next to the harbor.

Then in Loreto, at the station on the north part of town, not on the main drag.

I haven't been further south then Ligui in almost 10 years, so I won't comment on others.

Hwy. 5:

El Dorado Ranch Pemex north of San Felipe, by the Rockadile sign. Gonzaga Bay Pemex (but not from 2-4 pm when they close).

Hwy. 2:

Tecate... on the north side, east of town.

Bajatripper - 10-4-2011 at 02:53 PM

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First, a poll about David K. Now I see J.P. is piling on the "stick it to David K bandwagon." What gives?

David, have you been spitting in peoples' beer again? How many times I've gotta tell ya that's a nasty habit you should really give up.

J.P. - 10-4-2011 at 04:04 PM

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In all the years of travelling in Baja (about 55 years) I never used a PEMEX bathroom once----------why would ANYBODY use those "bathrooms"???

Barry

Totaly agree about public restrooms anywhere.To this day I still carry the necessarys in my vehicle . just in the last few years you have been able to walk by a public facility in Mexico without becoming ill and losing your cookies.

J.P. - 10-4-2011 at 05:18 PM

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First, a poll about David K. Now I see J.P. is piling on the "stick it to David K bandwagon." What gives

I didnt know this thread was about David K. Being as you are the one that brought it up . He is a bit anoying but nothing I cant handle.

David K - 10-4-2011 at 05:22 PM

Gee, I gave you want you asked for J.P. ! :lol:

I just can't win with some of you on Nomad!!

Pescador - 10-5-2011 at 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.

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In all the years of travelling in Baja (about 55 years) I never used a PEMEX bathroom once----------why would ANYBODY use those "bathrooms"???

Barry

Boy, with all those terrible restrooms as well as the trash along side the road, I wonder why so many tourists keep coming south? :no:

Barry A. - 10-5-2011 at 08:05 AM

Pescador-----------because "restrooms" and "trash" are not relavent to what Baja offers us, I suppose. Nothing is perfect.

I go to Baja for the Adventure of it all.

Barry

J.P. - 10-5-2011 at 08:15 AM

A long time ago I decided I have no control over when and where I die but I want to live in BAJA. :yes: