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Pemex potty stop? Study confirms your worst fears about public potties

Ken Cooke - 10-20-2011 at 09:55 AM

link: http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/10/19/8402117-dont-to...

By Bill Briggs
No. 1: A new study on the germ orgies going down in America’s public restrooms truly puts the “P” in repulsive, repugnant and “Hey, how awesome are my Depends?”

No. 2: If you can, maybe just hold it until you get home.




Yes, we’re talking about relieving those two basic bodily functions and doing so in some of most bacteria-bedecked spaces anywhere. As long suspected, bathroom surfaces in U.S. restaurants, airplanes, stores, hospitals and other busy locales are often heavily contaminated with illness-causing microbes – and, in some cases, the bug colonies are even too large to measure, according to a paper to be presented Friday to the Infectious Diseases Society of America in Boston.

“I was surprised (at the sheer quantity of creepy crawlies) but, at same time, I wasn’t surprised because people use these things and people touch things,” said Dr. Lennox Archibald, an epidemiologist at the University of Florida’s College of Medicine.

“It does make you step back a bit and stake stock of the whole hand-hygiene thing,” added Archibald, who will present the findings. “And yes, it could make one paranoid.”

From December 2010 through last February, Archibald and his colleagues swabbed and cultured faucets, paper-dispenser levers, and door handles inside the bathrooms of four aircraft and 18 other crowded spots such as fast-food restaurants. Names of the businesses were not released. Among the types of microscopic critters commonly discovered were staphylococcus (which can cause fevers and chills) and bacillus (which can cause diarrhea).

“For several restrooms, the quantity of microorganisms was too numerous to count,” Archibald’s paper reports. “…To date, there have been virtually no quantitative or qualitative assessments of the range of bacteria contaminating public restrooms.”

Given these invisible fecal fests, should we simply cross our legs, squeeze our thighs and endure the pain instead of accessing public restrooms?

“If you have to use it, you have to use it,” Archibald said. “You just have to be careful where you touch after you wash your hands.” Ideally, public bathrooms should be stocked with paper towels so that your skin needn't come into contact with anything yucky.

Then again, he added: “You can wash your hands till the cows come home. (If we swab your freshly scrubbed palms and culture the results), you are going to grow something.”

Bill Briggs is a frequent contributor to msnbc.com and author of “The Third Miracle.”

SiReNiTa - 10-20-2011 at 11:30 AM

Another one of the many great reasons I carry a small baggie with baby wipes, hand sanitizer and tissue!!!

Great article!

sanquintinsince73 - 10-20-2011 at 12:18 PM

For those who don't believe, I picked up a nasty colon infection in Baja a couple years ago. I stopped to do my thing at the Pemex in San Vicente while headed South. The next day for my morning glory my 6 o'clock was on fire with droplets of blood.

To make a long story short, the docs tried anti-biotics, cipro, then clyndamicine, and the latter did the trick.

Barry A. - 10-20-2011 at 02:22 PM

Seems like there is a huge "Duh" factor in all this, but you have to be exposed to SOME microbes less your immune system fall into disrepair. I personally am pretty careful, but NEVER to my knowledge in 73 years have I "picked anything up" in a public restroom-----------(knock on wood) and have never resorted to any supplimental anti-septical practices, etc. :o

(what a grim subject) :rolleyes:

Barry

mtgoat666 - 10-20-2011 at 02:37 PM

just don't touch anything!

paper butt gaskets are OK for sitting on potty, but if no disposable gaskets available, then perch or squat.

just don't touch anything!

p.s. i think there are very few women in the world that use public toilets without levitating above the seat - they should just convert all womens restrooms to squat hole toilets, would make women much more comfortable if they did not have to do isometrics in potty.

Barry A. - 10-20-2011 at 02:41 PM

Goat----------as you know, the Chinese learned the wisdom (in this case only) of your words centuries ago. :lol:

Barry

Hook - 10-20-2011 at 02:49 PM

Maybe it's all the backpacking I did growing up, but I head to the bushes every chance I get when faced with a public toilet of questionable cleanliness. In fact, I keep driving past 'em.

There IS more than one reason to carry an entrenching tool in Mexico.............

Ateo - 10-20-2011 at 02:49 PM

I just take dumps on the side of the road while in Baja. Coyotes love a good hardened turd.

My job on the US side requires me to visit gas stations every day. Ive trained myself to go at home before heading to work.

One thing ive learned in my line of work is the cleanliness of a gas station bathroom directly correlates to the quality of the gas station owner.

So...Where's that bathroom?

Dave - 10-20-2011 at 02:51 PM

I know it ain't in Mexico because it comes with its own supply of TP. :rolleyes:

Ateo - 10-20-2011 at 02:55 PM

The Pemex at the bottom of the hill in Tecate is awesome. I'll post a pic if I ever get around to posting my pottery trip report.

bigzaggin - 10-20-2011 at 02:58 PM

I'm not sure what you guys are all on about. I routinely stop to eat my lunch off the toilet seat at the Pemex in El Rosario. Never once gotten sick.

mtgoat666 - 10-20-2011 at 03:05 PM

someone please photograph the el rosario pemex restrooms and post pics here. anybody headed that way in next day or 3?

while you are at it, how about a pic of every pemex bano along the hwy 1 drive?

sanquintinsince73 - 10-20-2011 at 03:20 PM


woody with a view - 10-20-2011 at 04:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
someone please photograph the el rosario pemex restrooms and post pics here. anybody headed that way in next day or 3?

while you are at it, how about a pic of every pemex bano along the hwy 1 drive?


i'll try and remember to get a shot tomorrow around 11am. post up some stuff over the weekend.

mtgoat666 - 10-20-2011 at 04:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
someone please photograph the el rosario pemex restrooms and post pics here. anybody headed that way in next day or 3?

while you are at it, how about a pic of every pemex bano along the hwy 1 drive?


i'll try and remember to get a shot tomorrow around 11am. post up some stuff over the weekend.


excellent!

i look forward to a trip report overflowing with banos!

woody with a view - 10-20-2011 at 05:07 PM

do you prefer i get shots upon entering or exiting? or should i surprise you? this might actually end up being fun!

here's one to start with....

rsz_100_0570.jpg - 36kB

sanquintinsince73 - 10-20-2011 at 05:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
do you prefer i get shots upon entering or exiting? or should i surprise you? this might actually end up being fun!

here's one to start with....


It's nicer to get shot's after the passenger buses coming from "El Sur" have stopped and let everyone make a head-call.

tripledigitken - 10-20-2011 at 05:37 PM

Would you get some shots of the motel next door?

mtgoat666 - 10-20-2011 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
do you prefer i get shots upon entering or exiting? or should i surprise you? this might actually end up being fun!

here's one to start with....


don't care about exterior. want to see interior, and state of commode cleanliness.

if you have a DK doll, make sure to put in each photo, or at the least baja cactus pemex!.

BajaBlanca - 10-20-2011 at 06:45 PM

The worst is the pemex gas station right near the entrance to san ignacio. enter at your own risk. even to take a photo.

disgusting doesn't begin to describe it.

we have started going to the La Pinta Hotel instead for a pit stop in San Ignacio.


A clean toilet is the pemex in santa rosalia on the left side as you get into town. a ways before the immigration office. I think the one on the right before you get into town is Ok too. We just always fill up either going north or south at the other one. It is an honest station gaswise.

Bajafun777 - 10-20-2011 at 07:18 PM

While traveling we carry handwipes to clean off anything we use but now that I think about it probably would not hurt to spray bubbling action into toliet before using. I know sounds like a lot of work over nothing, as I have not had any problems in over 40 years traveling in Mexico but wouldn't take that long to do. I also usually do not eat solids when traveling until I get to where I want to be. Found this type of traveling best for me but again will start carrying the cleaning bubbles,LOL. Take Care & Travel Safe, "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777

bajabass - 10-21-2011 at 04:19 AM

I've watered and fertilized more cardons and cholas than I can remember!! The look on Dra. Bajabass's face as she exits keeps me out of Pemex potties.:barf:

Bajajorge - 10-21-2011 at 09:05 AM

I travel with a cabover w/full facilities. At least when I sit down I know the microbes are mine.

I've been in several Baja rest rooms.:O They haven't made enough Lysol spray or wipes to handle those places.

Tbone - 10-21-2011 at 12:36 PM

On a awesome October day in 2008, I was standing with friends neck deep in the water off camp Gecko sucking on Pacificos and BSing, life could not get any better. Here we are having a good ol time when my son comes walking out towards us eating the most beautiful, ice chest cold half a cantaloupe you’ve ever seen. He eats that half of cantaloupe and walks back out of the water to retrieve the other from the ice chest and back down into the water to further torture me. After a couple rounds of this I ask if there was anymore and if so I would like a piece. There was and I did and it was wonderful, standing in the Sea of Cortez with friends munching on a cold, juicy cantaloupe, truly, life cannot get any better than this, right? This was a great finish to our last day in Gecko and we would head home to So Cal the next morning. We leave BOLA at first light and start the long haul back home, first stop to be that ragged, out in the middle of nowhere, ranchero/restaurant place near Laguna Chapala. I had my huevos rancheros with a Pacifico from the truck and was now content to kick back, listen to music and be the co-pilots eyes, probably wouldn’t have to stop until around Ensenada. Thanks to my loving son’s gift of cantaloupe, we stopped at Catavina (nicest restrooms I’ve seen in Mexico), El Rosario (no toilet seat), San Quintin (had to use the women’s), Colonet (men’s was flooded again used the womens), Santo Tomas (clean), and on and on. Even violated the side of the road on hwy 94 back in California. Hands down the worst driving experience of my life, son and friend were sick of pulling into every Pemex as well as hearing me talk about it. I will never leave on a trip without Imodium.

Cypress - 10-21-2011 at 12:40 PM

Yea! What we need is a guide for the best Banos in Baja. We'll plan our adventure around the Port-a-lets!:biggrin::biggrin:

Udo - 10-21-2011 at 12:46 PM

My next trip to Baja will include a case of sanitary wet wipe as well as a portable bottle of sanitizer:light:

Cypress - 10-21-2011 at 12:52 PM

Jeez! The banos in Baja are a lot cleaner than many of the public restrooms north of the border.:biggrin:

Tbone - 10-21-2011 at 01:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Jeez! The banos in Baja are a lot cleaner than many of the public restrooms north of the border.:biggrin:


Put down the crack pipe

JESSE - 10-21-2011 at 01:43 PM

Dirtiest thing ever is supermarket shopping cart handles. I always carry hand sanitizer.

CaboRon - 10-22-2011 at 06:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ateo
The Pemex at the bottom of the hill in Tecate is awesome. I'll post a pic if I ever get around to posting my pottery trip report.


Looks as if there is a misprint here ... don't you mean "potty" trip :?:

zoesterone - 10-22-2011 at 06:49 AM

Boy, you nomads sure like to talk a lot of S---! Forget Libya, benefits for vets, next election, instead it's two pages of restroom reports! What a crack up...literally.

Bajajorge - 10-22-2011 at 08:13 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tbone
Quote:
Originally posted by Cypress
Jeez! The banos in Baja are a lot cleaner than many of the public restrooms north of the border.:biggrin:


Put down the crack pipe


Clean banos? In Baja? I must be hanging out in the wrong part of town.

Marc - 10-22-2011 at 01:15 PM

Personally, I would never dine in a Baja baños.

The Fishermen/Women on This Board are Suspiciously Silent

Gypsy Jan - 10-22-2011 at 01:27 PM

:o ;D :o

Paulina - 10-22-2011 at 08:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
:o ;D :o


Squatting over the toilet bowl like Sr. Goat suggested doesn't work. The splatter factor will get you every time. Toilet seat covers, or "azz gaskets" as my dad used to call them don't do the trick either. Pee on the seat will soak through them, they fall off just as you go to sit down, stick to your hiney, just a plain pain.

What works for me is something simple that a fellow Nomad turned me on to...a Folgers Coffee canister with a vapor lock seal.

I call it my "Emergy-can".

http://www.folgers.com/products/classic-complements/index.as...

I keep it on the floor in the back seat of my truck. No one knows it's secret. (well, I guess now you do) Inside the canister I keep a packet of baby wipes, t.p. and extra zip lock freezer size baggies. I wash it out with Fabulosa so it never offends the nose.

The wide mouth is just the right size, the lid snaps on tight after the fact, keeping your deposit securely inside until it can be properly disposed of, ie buried, flushed. Easy grip handles keep it from slipping out of your grasp.

Just sayin', for what it's worth, this is what works for this Fisherwoman.

P>*)))>{

Humor detour...

Pompano - 10-22-2011 at 09:49 PM

Co-Pilots are very adaptable and always shun the Baja Road's public bathrooms. Like me, they would much rather go au naturale. Ah..there's nothing like freedom of choice.




Who needs a..ugh..Pemex bathroom when there's a perfectly good Hobie at hand? Much like these sailors below who are 'christening' a friend's new racing cat a few years ago on Posada Beach.

.....Si, como no?





And the word is out that Pemex is trying to save space and is about to launch a new prototype banos for it's many stations.




I'm taking the stairs, believe me!

mtgoat666 - 10-23-2011 at 05:39 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Paulina
Toilet seat covers, or "azz gaskets" as my dad used to call them don't do the trick either. Pee on the seat will soak through them, they fall off just as you go to sit down, stick to your hiney, just a plain pain.


re the pee left on seat by previous inconsiderate nomads, wipe the seat first. if *ss gaskets are provided, a handfull of them can be used to wipe seat... then you got dry seat for *ss gasket.

plop splash in sit-style toilets is solved by jamming toilet bowl full of deflecting material, eg paper products. directives to not put paper produts down toilet are silly. why follow such a directive if owner won't even clean the bano?????????

the reason squat toilets are best design is there is no splash problem. germans have a nice shelf in their sit toilets that catches solids, avoiding splash.