BajaNomad - Retirement locations without wind

Retirement locations without wind

kimberlymichael8 - 10-23-2011 at 07:42 PM

Would love opions of the best retirement spots without a lot of wind?
Interested in renting long term and would love contact info

Packoderm - 10-23-2011 at 08:36 PM

I'm looking forward to some answers to this question. I'm drawing a blank.

RnR - 10-23-2011 at 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by kimberlymichael8
Would love opions of the best retirement spots without a lot of wind?
Interested in renting long term and would love contact info

What time of year? Different seasons typically have different directions and amounts of wind.

Cortez side is windy in the winter, very calm in the summer.

[Edited on 10-24-2011 by RnR]

DENNIS - 10-23-2011 at 08:39 PM

Well...the entire Pacific Coast is eliminated.

kimberlymichael8 - 10-23-2011 at 08:42 PM

We know there will be some wind, just don't want to chase a hat each day.

mojo_norte - 10-23-2011 at 08:46 PM

Other requirements - criteria etc ?

Dave - 10-23-2011 at 08:47 PM

Valle de la Trinidad is nice. Mild climate and close to Ensenada. I've never known it to blow there.

kimberlymichael8 - 10-23-2011 at 08:53 PM

We are exploring all possible places right now. My biggest criteria would be an area that does not have a ton of no see ums. They love me.

kimberlymichael8 - 10-23-2011 at 08:57 PM

Valle de la Trinidad looks nice on Google Earth. How long does it take to drive to Ensenada? Do you know anyone living there that could recommend a contact for long term rentals?

Dave - 10-23-2011 at 09:15 PM

From the south part of the valley it takes about 20 min to drive downtown. I don't know as there would be a rentals contact, though. I know some folks who live there. It would be best to scout around as it's starting to become a frou-frou place.

Roberto - 10-23-2011 at 09:48 PM

Valle de Trinidad? Frou-frou? Now there's some unexpected news.

Yep

Dave - 10-23-2011 at 09:53 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto
Valle de Trinidad? Frou-frou? Now there's some unexpected news.

Think Sedona but for the wine set.

kimberlymichael8 - 10-23-2011 at 09:54 PM

What is Frou-frou?

UnoMas - 10-23-2011 at 10:19 PM

Humm,
Let's see, no bugs, no wind, doesn't matter as you will be living indoors anyway so any place will work...

Skipjack Joe - 10-23-2011 at 11:42 PM

On the cortez side the central region, St Rosalia to Loreto, seems to have the most calm days and the wind is less severe.

Some coves and baylets are naturally protected by the land around them that provides local calm areas. Papa Fernandez is like that.

But there is no place on either coast without wind.

The Vizcaino desert is a very windy region but San Ignacio is almost always warm and calm. The winds always diminish there and remain calm into St Rosalia and southward. Perhaps the Tres Virgenes are responsible for the weather change.

AmoPescar - 10-24-2011 at 12:09 AM

Have encountered the winds most everywhere in Baja and at most anytime of the year, though winter is more constant!

If you purchase a house or build one, the answer is to build outdoor living spaces on all sides. Or...maybe build some sort of protective wall to shield you from the prevailing winds, so that you still enjoy the outdoors on a sunny but windy day.

Miguelamo :yes:

rhintransit - 10-24-2011 at 05:00 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
On the cortez side the central region, St Rosalia to Loreto, seems to have the most calm days and the wind is less severe.

Some coves and baylets are naturally protected by the land around them that provides local calm areas. Papa Fernandez is like that.

But there is no place on either coast without wind.

The Vizcaino desert is a very windy region but San Ignacio is almost always warm and calm. The winds always diminish there and remain calm into St Rosalia and southward. Perhaps the Tres Virgenes are responsible for the weather change.

scratch Loreto area for wind...the northers howl in the winter months and the dry blasts from the west which can come almost anytime are amazingly fierce. most of the summer one welcomes whatever breeze one can get. except chubascos...
and then of course there is hurricane season...

BajaGringo - 10-24-2011 at 07:35 AM

No wind???

Scratch off anywhere by the water...

DENNIS - 10-24-2011 at 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by Dave
From the south part of the valley it takes about 20 min to drive downtown. I don't know as there would be a rentals contact, though. I know some folks who live there. It would be best to scout around as it's starting to become a frou-frou place.

No kiddin'? What ever happened to the extensive pot plantations and the wars between the growers and the military?

windgrrl - 10-24-2011 at 08:16 AM

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Originally posted by kimberlymichael8
We are exploring all possible places right now. My biggest criteria would be an area that does not have a ton of no see ums. They love me.

The wind is your ally against bugs! :yes:

If you have a solid wall between you and the wind, the sun will keep you nice and warm.

La Ventana and Los Barriles are windy in the winter due to El Norte, San Jose and Cabo seem less so. San Jose is lovely.

mulegemichael - 10-24-2011 at 08:22 AM

on the cortez side, anywhere south of the east cape is really nice but expensive...san jose del cabo can be flat calm while the north wind roars just a few miles up the coast.

Ateo - 10-24-2011 at 08:44 AM

Punta San Carlos. Pacific side. Just kidding! :spingrin:

David K - 10-24-2011 at 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by ateo
Punta San Carlos. Pacific side. Just kidding! :spingrin:

Yes, and in case some don't know... that is a wind surfering camp! :lol:

http://www.solosports.net

[Edited on 10-24-2011 by David K]

Learn to embrace it...but not too close

El Camote - 10-24-2011 at 09:19 AM

Problem with the wind in Mexico, if it's not blowing outside, it's breaking inside. :wow:

mtgoat666 - 10-24-2011 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by kimberlymichael8
Would love opions of the best retirement spots without a lot of wind?
Interested in renting long term and would love contact info

relative to most coastal locations go, ensenada-TJ corridor is not very windy, about the same as san diego. so little wind that the sailing is not very good.

of course, coastal locations are usually windier than locations a few miles inland, but inland locations are usually hotter,...

kimberlymichael8

bajaguy - 10-24-2011 at 09:56 AM

Check your u2u message........upper right corner by where you sign in

Skeet/Loreto - 10-24-2011 at 01:50 PM

The Panhandle of Texas is the best Place in the States to Live!!!!!

MitchMan - 10-24-2011 at 03:03 PM

What about La Paz? Doesn't seem to be very windy there, except when it has a storm. I go there about 8 times a year throughout the year. Haven't noticed that it has been very windy. The only environmental issue that you will encounter there is the heat. Can't really spend alot of time outside during the summer months... unless you can take the heat. As far as bugs, well, since there hasn't been much rain over the last two years, there haven't been as many small flying bugs as 3 years ago, but it is a little bit of an issue in La Paz.

Hook - 10-24-2011 at 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by BajaGringo
No wind???

Scratch off anywhere by the water...

Or the mountains..................or the desert.

What's left in Baja?

wessongroup - 10-24-2011 at 08:04 PM

Cave

kimberlymichael8 - 10-24-2011 at 08:34 PM

A cave LOL

Bajaboy - 10-24-2011 at 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
The Panhandle of Texas is the best Place in the States to Live!!!!!

Skeet, you still guaranteeing Perry is going to be President? Talk about wind.....oh my what a burro

As for a place to rent without wind....how about Elias Calles in Baja Sur?

bkbend - 10-24-2011 at 09:45 PM

For a short vacation, wind can be a bummer. For retirement, not so big a deal. You'll get windy days but also plenty of calm days. Adjust your activities accordingly. That opens much more area for consideration.

kimberlymichael8 - 10-25-2011 at 07:56 AM

Good advice bkbend, we have never been down for more than 2 weeks.
That pesty job thing !

mcfez - 10-25-2011 at 10:07 AM

The wind does not blow that bad every day in Baja. The days that it does....there is plenty to do indoors such as researching your next trip...do your chores, and ect. Outdoors ...where you'll can find wind protected valleys and bays.

I certainly would not move inland.....thought I am sure there are a few places that isnt too hot as Hell. Few.

BajaBlanca - 10-25-2011 at 01:22 PM

no wind .... tha gave me such a belly laugh !!! and also had me at a loss for answers ..... that being said: trust me, the wind is a very, very welcome thing if not exagerrated ...it removes flies and mosquitoes and keeps life bearable heat-wise. remember, this is a DESERT.

Bahia Asuncion is not a bad choice - there is one end called Hawaii which is warmer and the other end, for those who like the cold, is called Alaska.

Both ends will be really hot or really cold on the very same day at the very same time. Everyone is happy there temperature-wise, I presume !

jakecard - 10-25-2011 at 02:31 PM

Blanca, am I misreading your post or did you just cite Bahia Asuncion as a place in Baja that is not bad for wind?

Jake

bajatravelergeorge - 10-26-2011 at 04:59 PM

Light wind and no biting bugs, try Clairemont in San Diego.

shari - 10-26-2011 at 05:24 PM

Alaska is howling today and does so in Apr-June...I too had a chuckle thinking about somewhere in baja with no wind...nuh uh.

Osprey - 10-26-2011 at 05:40 PM

Old Friends

This little sea, the Gulf of California, is nothing more than a long skinny bay poking up between the western shore of Mexico and the eastern shore of Baja California. The crooked finger of salt water is naturally narrow at the tip, wide at the mouth, just like the digits on a human hand. The end of the fingernail points northward to what used to be the final meander of the great Colorado River. At the widest part, where the finger meets the hand, the long bay is just over 100 miles across. Here the imaginary finger and hand disappear, lost in the unfathomable blue-black vastness, the depths of the world’s largest ocean, the Pacific.

Yesterday a normal seasonal wind began to push the surface of the water south and east starting at the fingertip, not so much fearsome in strength as it was unrelenting. For over 900 miles the process continued, building one long wave after the other, stretching, pulling and pushing the top layer of the sea between the two shores from northwest to southeast, a very long fetch. Along both shores the ragged outcroppings, a few islands and small headlands felt the surge of what was no longer a placid sea but rather a stream now moving with the terrible force water can exert upon things it touches which are not in motion with it.

I wasn’t at the skinny end of the bay. I was here, to the south, near the mouth. The shoreline of this small pueblo runs the wrong way for winds like this. Instead of the great stream grazing, almost caressing our picturesque little beach on its headlong rush to escape this narrow prison, the unimaginable force of wet weight ran right into the land.

What woke me from a deep and restful sleep last night was the sound and fury caused by our being in the way. It must have been a grand surprise when, at the end of a very long run, this terrible river of energy encountered the sloping wall of sand which was the beach near my house. Here were no implacable granite cliffs or great rock buttresses, but only a low line of sand marked flats that rose slowly toward the mountains almost thirty miles to the west.

Anger was what I was hearing! This was the sound of pure consternation. A large part of the tumbling, falling, pushing stream had hit a small, soft step. This arrogant little body of water had just stubbed its toe and was howling in displeasure and pain. Each long wave unwillingly crested, formed a crown and fell on the one before it, thereby losing its energy and identity. It was followed by the next great blue and white beast which spilled and spewed its life upon the strand. Not one wave would ever live to spread its influence into the great Pacific. All night I listened to the waves stumbling up the soft sand like wine-drunk soldiers stepping on the heels of their foolish leaders.

These pulses of power had no courtesy, no patience. The roar was a crazy mixing of the sound of power as it built and died. A long, solid upwelling crested, then fell with the predictable sound of water falling on water. The next wave was sucked toward the beach but made little sound. Five or more long waves combined, just a second later, to push all the other water up or aside so the crest, fall, rush sound was not one sound like a hand clap but a short, loud hissing noise--a three-second waterfall. The sound was like too many people talking at once, with a half second hush before more shushing riotous complaint.

The wind will abate. This long, narrow sea will grow calm and I will once more fall asleep to the usual silence of the night--a few dogs barking, the sound of a night bird. After a few days of calm, when I may once again launch my small boat to catch some inshore fish for dinner, the wind will undoubtedly return. Then the drunken, reckless thing will call to me as it stumbles ashore and perhaps beckon me to awaken, arise and attend. We are getting to be friends, comfortable in our roles. No longer unsettled by the noise, I may lie back and drift off like an old man in the middle of a classic film he’s seen a hundred times.

Marc - 10-26-2011 at 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by AmoPescar
Have encountered the winds most everywhere in Baja and at most anytime of the year, though winter is more constant!

If you purchase a house or build one, the answer is to build outdoor living spaces on all sides. Or...maybe build some sort of protective wall to shield you from the prevailing winds, so that you still enjoy the outdoors on a sunny but windy day.

Miguelamo :yes:

Spanish hacienda style with a central courtyard.

Skipjack Joe - 10-26-2011 at 06:34 PM

Nice, Jorge. I've always favored your stories about the natural world.

BajaBlanca - 10-26-2011 at 06:45 PM

I've never lived in Asuncion ...so I probably should have kept quiet BUT, what I meant was that at least you get a choice there of hot or cold + wind.

:lol:

Really, the wind is a very good thing and it is only certain months that are really, really windy (jan to july) . Here in Bocana - during our windy season - it picks up at noon or 1 and then stops at 5 p.m.

August was exceptionally hot and windless this year.

Woody and Bia say it was really windy last night in the tent on Bocanita, but we never heard it.

Skipjack Joe - 10-26-2011 at 07:30 PM

The wind as a furious presence is a great simile, osprey. Followed by that so welcome and gentle calmness.

It came across real well. Like 2 forces with good winning at the end. I better stop now.

Cypress - 10-27-2011 at 07:44 AM

Many times I've prayed for a breeze. Keeps the no-see-'ums away and if sure feels good on a hot day. On the other hand I've cursed the wind.

AmoPescar - 10-27-2011 at 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by Marc

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Spanish hacienda style with a central courtyard.

YES...that's a GOOD IDEA! ...kind of what I had in mind. But sometimes, a 6' wall or good fence can serve the same purpose. Keeps you out of the wind...yet still able to soak up the warm sun!

Miguelamo :yes:

Pompano - 10-27-2011 at 11:42 PM

Listen up.

Baja = wind. Live with it.

El Vergel - 10-28-2011 at 01:49 PM

Winding down....lol!

35 KMs south of San Felipe in 30 years here's what I've had:
Howling big blow winds for days (too bad we flew the 206 down because we were stranded!), a hurricane or two, and a few chubasco's. In August I pray for ANY wind to withstand the stiffling heat. In December I jump behind a neighbors wall as a windbreak and absorb the beautiful Mexican sun. Then there's the windsurfing (or kite surfing, my latest passion) where the killer winds are all the fun. And in the boat...well, that's another story, especially when tides are the rage. In some way shape or form, I just don't see the Baja without wind! Great post and question.

Best to all!

Just to Add a Few Thoughts

Gypsy Jan - 10-28-2011 at 02:18 PM

In the Rosarito area, going from north to south:

The Descanso development is sheltered behind a low mountain; you have ocean views. A friend who owns a home the says the wind is never troublesome, even when sitting outside on the not walled open common space (patio, pool, lawn, playground).

The Descanso Valley is very protected.

In the Ensenada area, going from north to south:

The La Mision Valley is very protected.

The Guadalupe Valley, Baja's version of Napa Valley, is very protected.

All of these are more or less within 200 miles of the U.S./Mexico border, far enough north and on the Pacific side of the peninsula, so that "no'seeums" are not a problem.

kimberlymichael8 - 10-30-2011 at 10:01 AM

Thanks for all the great advise, I agree totally that light wind is great and will keep the "no seeums" at bay.
We plan an exploratory trip soon.

805gregg - 10-31-2011 at 05:11 PM

Let's see how your spanish is La Ventana. Go with short term until you see if it suits you.

durrelllrobert - 11-3-2011 at 09:45 AM

Don't know of anything in BC without wind but here's a great home built in a cave in Bisbee, AZ piced at only $1.5 million with no wind: www.thecavehouse.com
:lol:

[Edited on 11-3-2011 by durrelllrobert]