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agrd - 11-4-2011 at 07:00 PM

I've noticed that Cabo is apparently about 10 degrees hotter than Todos. Does the temperature change abruptly at some point (and if so, where), or is it a gradual change?

Wally - 11-4-2011 at 07:28 PM

It does. On a 42 degree line that is located directly in the center of the Art & Beer parking area. Give or take 60 miles....

agrd - 11-4-2011 at 07:39 PM

Everyone is just so helpful. If that's what long hours in the hot sun does to you, I'm rethinking my plans to visit.

Bajatripper - 11-7-2011 at 10:27 AM

Looking at the times of your two posts, you certainly didn't give it much time before "thanking" us (39 minutes, to be exact). What, you thought this was instant messaging service?

Be flexible...

BigOly - 11-7-2011 at 10:32 AM

it's Baja, come on down and enjoy.

tiotomasbcs - 11-7-2011 at 10:42 AM

Iwouldn't come! The beach is soo sandy!:o and the roads.... soo bumpy. Didn't they warn you about Baja Nomads? We're soo... playful ! Tio:biggrin:

gnukid - 11-7-2011 at 10:55 AM

The two locations, Todos and Cabo, have different climates due to the varying water temperature and current. The Sea of Cortez is about 88F in the summer and the Pacific remains at a lower temperature due to currents. They also face different directions and therefore the Sun's affect varies.

As the Fall approaches the median temperature in Cabo will drop from 85-95 to 75-85 usually sometime around early November, though the change time varies sometimes changing in mid Oct and sometimes until mid Nov. There is a local saying for this-but I don't recall. Something about October being very unpredictable. Basically the temperature at this time is so unpredictable people will wear snow jackets, hats and gloves on a hot day just in case. Their bodies are not acclimated to the sudden coolness. The temperature will change as much as 40 degrees in a day/night 60-100f, which is normal in some parts but not in Baja. The fun part is many people have waited all year to wear their new full length coats and gloves so they jump the gun a bit and wear warm clothes early for fun.

Usually by November 15th the weather will be more similar from the Pacific to the Sea of Cortez, with the SOC making a fast drop from 88f to 74f water temperature over a short period as the North Winds push cool water to the surface.

Year over year we see moderate temperatures in Todos and less ranges while on the SOC side and in La Paz we may see temperatures as low as 50f on multiple occasions and last year night temperatures as low as 40f in early Feb. The wind on the Sea Of Cortez has localized thermal puffs usually in La Ventana, Los Barriles to La Ribera and oN occasion the wind may blow up to 40-50nots over the sea of Cortez for 2-3 days in the winter, but further south of Nine Palms this weather is moderated and the direction changes to it does not blow you off the beach. Todos rarely receives strong winds consistently.

So this begs the question, which is better The Pacific or the The Sea of Cortez?

We can discuss this over coffee all Winter with Jay Valentine and 'Lil Chico Martine the weather experts.
Have fun!

These temperature variations can be monitored and used to your advantage to go where the weather is best to enjoy a day a the beach! It seems Los Cerritos playa is always nice as is Palmilla.

[Edited on 11-7-2011 by gnukid]

mtgoat666 - 11-7-2011 at 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by gnukid
As the Fall approaches the median temperature in Cabo will drop from 85-95 to 75-85 usually sometime around early November, though the change time varies sometimes changing in mid Oct and sometimes until mid Nov. There is a local saying for this-but I don't recall. Something about October being very unpredictable. Basically the temperature at this time is so unpredictable people will wear snow jackets, hats and gloves on a hot day just in case. Their bodies are not acclimated to the sudden coolness. The temperature will change as much as 40 degrees in a day/night 60-100f, which is normal in some parts but not in Baja. The fun part is many people have waited all year to wear their new full length coats and gloves so they jump the gun a bit and wear warm clothes early for fun.


and Cabo/baja sur is most beautiful in winter when the snows cover the Sierra de la Laguna mtns :lol::lol:

gnukid - 11-7-2011 at 11:36 AM

Yes, at the same time tourists are enjoying the warm beach 7 days a week along the white sand coastline of Baja Sur and the Pacific, the Sierra de La Laguna reaches above up 5000 feet to the top of the mountains at a cool 40-50f to feed Pine and Oak forests and both wild animals and ranch animals. Water runs from the mountain top down waterfalls lining the canyons into sweet pools of cool water, sometimes mixed with natural hot springs, such as those that reach Spa Buena Vista.

The Sierra de La Laguna is a resource for all people and is rich in flora and fauna and minerals. Foreign entities are attempting to claim control under the guise of designation as UNESCO, though no national laws give any rights or powers to UNESCO to control access or deny access to anyone. Definitely go and visit the Sierra de la Laguna and find out for yourself about the rich resources and beauty there that is something to maintain access to for the region and it's people.









[Edited on 11-7-2011 by gnukid]

gnukid - 11-7-2011 at 02:23 PM

Hope this isn't too far off topic:

USA announced on Nov 2nd, 2011 that is has withdrawn support and funding from UNESCO, the entity that lays claim to much of Baja's land and natural resources, such as protectorate of Sierra de la Laguna and Viscaino. This is not the first time that the USA has withdrawn support, in response to UNESCOs actions. One simple solution is to ignore unlawful UNESCO designations, such as gates, or demands for donations and continue on your way.

http://www.allgov.com//ViewNews/US_Halts_Payments_to_UNESCO_...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/1999/oct/18/jonhenley1

http://www.globalwitness.org/library/unesco-end-alliance-cor...

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=171047506268040&to...

http://politicaltaxes.com/2011/11/01/us-condemns-unesco-over...

http://www.one.org/blog/2011/10/20/president-obiang-appoints...

[Edited on 11-7-2011 by gnukid]

gnukid - 11-7-2011 at 07:53 PM

If USA changes it's support for UNESCO foundation because of politics, like UNESCO support of Palestein, then is every decision about UNESCO monetary, military or strategic? How do the politics mesh with local, social and ecological issues?













[Edited on 11-8-2011 by gnukid]

Barry A. - 11-8-2011 at 11:21 AM

Great pics, Gnu---------and very interesting "links" you have provided.

Corruption is everywhere, and only constant vigilance and action against it will keep it in check. (but we will NEVER elliminate it as human nature always prevails)

Thanks, Gnu.

Barry

gnukid - 11-8-2011 at 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
Great pics, Gnu---------and very interesting "links" you have provided.

Corruption is everywhere, and only constant vigilance and action against it will keep it in check. (but we will NEVER elliminate it as human nature always prevails)

Thanks, Gnu.

Barry


This subject has given me some pause for thought and provoked a few questions to consider.

If foundations are acting for the good then why would governments use funding to manipulate them, as USA is doing again to UNESCO for it's support of Palestine?

And why would UNESCO have such as long storied history of horrific abuse and corruption? And why do people keep the faith that the next time will be different?

What does it's leadership portend? The first Director General is Dr. Julian Huxley. Julian Huxley was the grandson of occultist author Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, an important book for our time to understand the plan or map for social engineering. Julian Huxley co-authored books with H.G. Wells such as The Science of Life (1929).

How many examples provided by UNESCO that the ends justify the means must exist before civilians become suspect of these people and the foundations motivations?

Why do people like ourselves sometimes feel the cumpulsory need to automatically support an agency or foundation simply because they say they do good, without holding the organization to a standard? Take the good with the bad? When do we say no?

Why is there a fear or reluctance to research and discuss who is UNESCO, who are the founders and directors, what do they believe and what are they doing in Baja?

What should knowledgeable people's response be toward do-gooder tour guides who say we shouldn't question the land grabs and instead we should restrict with prejudice by race or country people's access to pass or enter the water such as kayakers in Ascuncion or the Islands of Loreto and Espirtu Santo or perhaps the waterfalls and mountains of Sierra de la Laguna?

What do our beliefs and expectations (in contrast to the reality) of foundations say about each of us?

What is the fundamental principle of protection or conservancy to understand? What role do individuals play versus institutions, foundations and governments, who should manage it?

[Edited on 11-8-2011 by gnukid]

rob - 11-8-2011 at 04:17 PM

Sorry - on topic for just a moment . . . on the ranch (due west of La Paz on the Pacific) we average a steady 16F less than La Paz in summer, and as gnukid says, late in the year, as the sea cools both sides, we tend to track the LP daytime highs.

Its warmer at night in winter tho - here it's all about sea temps (wind consistently from WNW onshore). That said, the hottest day ever recorded here was in February - 104F - in the middle of a howling norte, which here is an offshore wind and very warm.

Which is the best coast? After 15 years of visiting Baja, and 10 years living here on the Pacific - definitely the [***deleted by Moderator***]

Bajahowodd - 11-8-2011 at 05:03 PM

Nice save, rob. Dunno how a question about relative climate differences in Southern Baja could somehow morph into an anti-UN rant.

That said, inasmuch as the Pacific is even somewhat cool as far South as Southern Baja, and it influences temps especially given the local wind direction, the fact is that even in the area we call Cabo San Lucas, there are significant temperature differences, even between the various resorts.

For example, if one was staying at a Pacific side hotel, such as Finesterra or Solmar, they would find it a tad cooler than of they were staying over on the bay side at say, the Pueblo Bonito. The difference actually increases as one travels up the so-called corridor toward San Jose Del Cabo. A stay at the Westin, for instance, will find significantly higher afternoon temps than would be found at Finesterra. Cut off from the Pacific winds, and even enhance by a huge building, it can get awfully hot there.

So, for anyone looking to enjoy a summer vacation in Cabo, be aware that staying on the Pacific side, will find less intense heat. For Pueblo Bonito fans, try the Sunset Beach.

bacquito - 11-10-2011 at 02:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Barry A.
Great pics, Gnu---------and very interesting "links" you have provided.

Corruption is everywhere, and only constant vigilance and action against it will keep it in check. (but we will NEVER elliminate it as human nature always prevails)

Thanks, Gnu.

Barry



Another way of saying it is humans are greedy and that is our nature.
And another thanks Gnu. Interesting.