BajaNomad

Davids Hwy 5 map showing times between

Phil S - 11-8-2011 at 06:55 PM

I did a search but can't find the map that David did that shows distance & approx time driving them?
Thanks.

David K - 11-8-2011 at 07:16 PM

Me?

It wasn't a map, but a road log... posted in two places on Nomad... Baja Road Conditions Forum and Baja Trip Reports forum... (July, 2011).

I will add it here, for you!

David K - 11-8-2011 at 07:21 PM

HWY. 5: San Felipe to Chapala (Hwy. 1), July 2011



The following road log was made on the July 4th weekend, 2011.

MILE / KM. Marker

0.0 San Felipe (Traffic Circle by Pemex stations, south turn)

0.8 Pemex station and market on south side of town

6.0 Left Turn off Airport Road, Km. 0
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(add 6.0 miles to following for distance from traffic circle)

The next 45 miles are well paved, but many short, steep and unmarked dips will require reduced speed to avoid damage.

0.0 / Km. 0 Airport Road/ Puertecitos Road Jcn.

12.5 / Km. 20-21 Rancho Percebu Road

15.7 / Km. 26+ Shell Island Road

18.6 / Km. 31 Bahia Santa Maria Road

19.3 / Km. 32+ Nuevo Mazatlan Road

21.5 / Km. 35.5 Colonia Delicias (markets/ restaurants)

29.6 / Km. 49 El Coloradito Road

32.8 / Km. 54 Campo Cristina Road

35.4 / Km. 58.5 Los Olivos Road

36.1 / Km. 60 Arroyo Matomi

36.3 Rancho San Rafael (well)

43.4 / Km. 72 Playa Destiny

44.9 / Km. 74+ PUERTECITOS (paved) Road
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The newest paved additions to Hwy. 5 are well engineered, wide and are designed and signed for high speed. However, frequent rock slides onto pavement require caution.

0.0 / Km. 74+ Puertecitos Road

5.0 / Km. 83 Bahia Cristina

6.1 / Km. 84.5 La Costilla

7.2 mine road

16.4 El Huerfanito Road

18.9 Bridge at previous end of pavement (July 2010)

20.1 / Km. 311 Change of Km. markers, distance from Mexicali

23.6 / Km. 317

24.1 / Km. 318 END OF PAVED DRIVE, detour onto older road, regraded smooth. Pavement ends just ahead on new roadbed.

25.5 Okie Landing site.

32.0 END OF NEW ROAD CONSTRUCTION and end of smooth dirt detour on older road.

32.4 Campo Delfines Road

35.6 Las Encantadas Road

37.7 Punta Bufeo Road

42.4 Papa Fernandez' Road, roadbed south of here is better/ faster.

43.6 Miltary Checkpoint

45.0 GONZAGA BAY PEMEX/ ALFONSINA'S ROAD/ RANCHO GRANDE MARKET (Pemex closed from 2-4 pm for siesta)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

0.0 Gonzaga Bay Pemex

1.2 Campo Beluga (2.0 mi.) and El Sacrificio (4.2 mi.) Road

7.1 Las Palmitas Oasis (4.7 mi.) and Santa Maria Canyon (4.0 mi.) Road, right.

14.4 First Boojum Trees on Hwy. 5.

14.6 La Turquesa Canyon Road, right.

18.4 Las Arrastras (site) Road, right.

22.1 Coco's Corner (Puerto Calamajue and Mision Calamajue road left).

34.8 Hwy. 1, Laguna Chapala (Cataviña is 33 miles north).

(photos in trip report ('Freaky Fourth') of July, 2011)

David K - 11-8-2011 at 07:28 PM

OK Phil, in my July 2010 trip through Gonzaga I did have the times:

Here is the road log from Monday, July 19, 2010 (was posted on the Baja Road Conditions forum):

0.0 (0 min.) Puertecitos Entrance Road, sign ahead for Laguna Chapala.

5.2 (6 min.) Playa Cristina

6.2 La Costilla

17.6 (20 min.) El Huerfanito (off to east of highway, no sign)

18.5 Detour off pavement onto older road, regraded for construction traffic. Piles of sand on road mark this point, no sign. Ahead on pavement is sign for Campo Tano at Mile 19.0. At 19.3 is a sign 'End of Pavement, 200 mtrs.'). At 19.5 is the absolute end at an unfinished bridge. No sign of road work on the opposite side of arroyo. Road work does continue beyond, out of sight from here.

Return back to Mile 18.5, detour onto dirt... log continues from this point.

25.1 (34 min. from Puertecitos, not including run to end of pavement) End of new road construction alongside old road. Old road new grading ends... very rough, rocky road on to Gonzaga. Motorhomes and trailers should avoid!

26.0 'Okie Landing' to east (note cement pads along end of gravel beach marking the fish camp of the 1960's.

33.1 (1 hr. 14 min.) Campo Delfines

36.3 (1 hr. 26 min.) Las Encantadas

37.9 (1 hr. 31 min.) Punta Bufeo

43.1 (1 hr. 59 min.) El Faro

43.4 (2 hr. 1 min.) Papa Fernandez' Bahia San Luis Gonzaga

Military Checkpont is just a mile + ahead.

46.1 (2 hr. 12 min.) Alfonsina's Pemex (closed from 2-4 pm), Rancho Grande Market just ahead on right.

Clear odometer for next section... The main road south from Gonzaga is much better than the road north, but the rough surface still limits maximum speed to ~30 mph (twice that of the north section) in a Tacoma, loaded.

0.0 Rancho Grande 'Gonzaga Bay'

1.3 (8 min.) Road to Campo Beluga and Sacraficio

7.5 (22 min.) Road west to Arroyo Santa Maria and Las Palmitas oasis on the old mission trail 'El CaminoReal'

10.0 (28 min.) Road in from left is the south access route to Punta Final

16.7 La Turquesa Canyon road to west (green pools of water, turquoise mine, and very difficult off road and abandoned mine road shortcut to Hwy. 1 near El Pedregoso)

19.2 (52 min.) Las Arrastras site access road. Gold ore grinding mills, well, nearby waterhole of San Francisquito on the Camino Real.

23.0 (1 hr.) Coco's Corner (cold Pacifico for sale $2) Coco in Ensenada, helper Ramón on hand.

36.1 (1 hr. 30 min. driving time) HWY. 1, Laguna Chapala. Gasoline and tire repairs advertised, 1 km. south.

Phil S - 11-8-2011 at 07:31 PM

hat's what I was looking for.
"Thank you David!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

David K - 11-9-2011 at 09:33 AM

You are welcome Phil... but let me say... when you do your trip, you will find conditions different and your experience will be its own, as well... No matter what you read on Nomad, you should go and experience the place for yourself and just pace yourself along the road. Locals drive the worse roads in their barely running, 2WD trucks and cars... and get through, afterall.

Have fun, don't over-plan, enjoy the drive as much as the destination! Stop often to take photos or check out the mines, ruins, missions, ranchos... all that Baja has to offer!

[Edited on 11-9-2011 by David K]

mcfez - 11-9-2011 at 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
You are welcome Phil... but let me say... when you do your trip, you will find conditions different and your experience will be its own, as well... No matter what you read on Nomad, you should go and experience the place for yourself and just pace yourself along the road. Locals drive the worse roads in their barely running, 2WD trucks and cars... and get through, afterall.

Have fun, don't over-plan, enjoy the drive as much as the detination! Stop often to take photos or check out the mines, ruins, missions, ranchos... all that Baja has to offer!


I'll second DavidK's statement. Very good advice.

David K - 11-9-2011 at 11:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
You are welcome Phil... but let me say... when you do your trip, you will find conditions different and your experience will be its own, as well... No matter what you read on Nomad, you should go and experience the place for yourself and just pace yourself along the road. Locals drive the worse roads in their barely running, 2WD trucks and cars... and get through, afterall.

Have fun, don't over-plan, enjoy the drive as much as the destination! Stop often to take photos or check out the mines, ruins, missions, ranchos... all that Baja has to offer!


I'll second David K's statement. Very good advice.


Thanks...