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Stem Cell Therapy in Ensenada

krafty - 11-12-2011 at 10:14 AM

is apparently the newest thing since sliced bread-many of our neighbors from Rosarito are flocking down to get in on this, and have not heard one negative thing. Any thoughts on this?

bajaguy - 11-12-2011 at 10:15 AM

We have some neighbors that are doing this...........

Woooosh - 11-12-2011 at 11:05 AM

In Ensenada? The genetic engineering hub of the free world? A fool and his money...

krafty - 11-12-2011 at 06:36 PM

Woooosh, are you speaking from personal experience or passing on an opinion on something you know nothing about?

Roberto - 11-12-2011 at 06:51 PM

You mean Ensenada IS the engineering hub of the world? And here I though he was joking.

And if you would even remotely consider the home of Sanatorio del Carmen, where portable x-ray machines are confused for C/T Scans and/or MRIs for Stem Cell therapy ... well, what Whoooosh said!

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Roberto]

Mengano - 11-12-2011 at 07:01 PM

Woooosh - 11-12-2011 at 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by krafty
Woooosh, are you speaking from personal experience or passing on an opinion on something you know nothing about?

The latter. Just a knee-jerk reaction to there possibly being an advanced facility there. Having what done exactly? Perhaps this facility is the same cutting-edge hospital that treated BajaGringo? Were there secret clinical trials using stems cell (for whatever purpose this is supposed to be for) that no one knew about? So what are they flocking for?

Oddjob - 11-12-2011 at 07:24 PM

Snake oil. Some people never learn.

Right

Dave - 11-12-2011 at 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by krafty
Woooosh, are you speaking from personal experience or passing on an opinion on something you know nothing about?

Woooosh has absolutely no idea. Unlike you, an old Baja veteran who has been down here all of 14 months.

Woooosh - 11-12-2011 at 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Dave

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Originally posted by krafty
Woooosh, are you speaking from personal experience or passing on an opinion on something you know nothing about?

Woooosh has absolutely no idea. Unlike you, an old Baja veteran who has been down here all of 14 months.

There wasn't any info or a link attached- so who could know?

:?:

BajaGringo - 11-12-2011 at 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto
And if you would even remotely consider the home of Sanatorio del Carmen, where portable x-ray machines are confused for C/T Scans

Sanatorio del Carmen has a CT machine and was used to take several scans of my head / jaw while I was there. They do not have an MRI unit - the only confusion there was here on the forum. According to my U.S. doc the CT scan is the preferred technology for scanning head trauma cases...

Woooosh - 11-12-2011 at 07:50 PM

While we have you here Ron... did you happen to roll or be wheeled past the stem cell therapy area?

:saint:

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Woooosh]

Woooosh - 11-12-2011 at 07:53 PM

http://www.bajaoceanside.com/Ensenada_Health_and_Wellness_Te...

A Google search brought up a link with Diane Gibbs "Realty Executives" Banner... now that's an endorsement! lol

"Dr. Hino has cured: Cancer, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Diabetes I & II, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Gastritis, Psoriasis, Vitiligo, Strokes, Allergies, Multiple Sclerosis, Tumors, Epilepsy, Anemia, Osteoporosis, Asthma, Bronchitis, Emphysema, Influenza, Insomnia, Cirrhosis, Lupus, Prostatitis, Bacterial Infections, Cholesterol, Obesity, Herpes, Migraines, Candidiasis."

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Woooosh]

BajaGringo - 11-12-2011 at 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
While we have you here Ron... did you happen to roll or be wheeled past the stem cell therapy area?

:saint:

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Woooosh]

Ha ha ha. Nope - I must have missed that wing on my guided tour....

:lol:

BajaGringo - 11-12-2011 at 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
http://www.bajaoceanside.com/Ensenada_Health_and_Wellness_Te...

A Google search brought up a link with Diane Gibbs "Realty Executives" Banner... now that's an endorsement! lol

"Dr. Hino has cured: Cancer, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Diabetes I & II, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Gastritis, Psoriasis, Vitiligo, Strokes, Allergies, Multiple Sclerosis, Tumors, Epilepsy, Anemia, Osteoporosis, Asthma, Bronchitis, Emphysema, Influenza, Insomnia, Cirrhosis, Lupus, Prostatitis, Bacterial Infections, Cholesterol, Obesity, Herpes, Migraines, Candidiasis."

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Woooosh]

With that list the guy has got to be a chiropractor...

:rolleyes:

DENNIS - 11-12-2011 at 08:00 PM

They've been working on the stem cell at Anthony's for years now. With great success, I might add.
Why all the cynicism?

Mengano - 11-12-2011 at 08:01 PM

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Dr. Hino is a pioneer with Stem Cell treatments and we are very thankful that the FDA did not allow him to continue his research in Beverly Hills, CA, so he came to our beloved México.

krafty - 11-12-2011 at 11:43 PM

Mengano, just asked because I am curious-seems to me if in fact they do work, they would not work for insurance companies in the states. Probably not docs either, because they are not legal to use-yet. And there are several avenues to procure stem cells, including using your own. If you know a reason scientifically that this is a stupid avenue to pursue, please tell me. Thank you

Woooosh - 11-13-2011 at 11:30 AM

Not stupid idea at all, just an unlikely location for advanced treatment. People who have lived in Rosarito for a while know there have been several places for holistic treatment and cancer cures. None of them have ever been legit.

Coretta Scott King died in one of these local facilities a few years ago. That's why I am sensitive to claims from any clinics in the area. The Judge Judy rule prevails: " If it doesn't make sense, it probably isn't true."

Death
Coretta Scott King died in the late evening of January 30, 2006,[17] at a rehabilitation center in Rosarito Beach, Mexico, In the Oasis Hospital where she was undergoing holistic therapy for her stroke and advanced stage ovarian cancer. The main cause of her death is believed to be respiratory failure due to complications from ovarian cancer.[18] The clinic at which she died was called the Hospital Santa Monica, but was licensed as Clinica Santo Tomas. Newspaper reports indicated that it was not legally licensed to "perform surgery, take X-rays, perform laboratory work or run an internal pharmacy, all of which it was doing." It was also founded, owned, and operated by San Diego resident and highly controversial alternative medicine figure Kurt Donsbach.[19][20] Days after Mrs. King's death, the Baja California, Mexico, state medical commissioner, Dr. Francisco Vera, shut down the clinic.[21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coretta_Scott_King

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Woooosh]

Oddjob - 11-13-2011 at 03:36 PM

Steve McQueen went to Rosarito and was treated with Laetrile. It didn't work, but if you're fighting terminal cancer and you have the money, what do you have to lose? The people that offer these treatments are preying on the patient's desperation and give them and their families false hope while taking their money.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/15/health/15essa.html

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Oddjob]

Stem Cell Therapy Treatments

Gypsy Jan - 11-13-2011 at 04:02 PM

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Stem_cell_tre...

Bottom line: It is experimental science right now, with no proven results, but early reports look promising. There are no horror stories, but you should thoroughly investigate the provider, knowing that they cannot promise results.

By the way, there is a rough-looking, concrete block building on the free road near Ollie's Pizza and just north of the hardware store that offers Stem Cell Therapy Treatments.

I wouldn't have them change the oil in my car, let alone agree to injecting substances into my spine.

Just my opinion.

[Edited on 11-13-2011 by Gypsy Jan]

Mulegena - 11-15-2011 at 08:39 AM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15740133

Citing financial reasons, this California-based company halts all stem-cell research.

Too bad-- much private-sector money wasted, many jobs lost, data left undeveloped.
Its been far too difficult to pass legislation allowing research and development of this scientific modality. To invest and begin only to stop before definitive conclusions have been assessed is very unfortunate, imo.

bajalou - 11-15-2011 at 09:10 AM

Just heard that 3 men in San Felipe have been treated there. All were to have knee surgery and elected this treatment. All 3 swear by it.

:?:

DENNIS - 11-15-2011 at 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by bajalou
Just heard that 3 men in San Felipe have been treated there. All were to have knee surgery and elected this treatment. All 3 swear by it.

:?:

They'll be swearing by this, their new Baja vehicle, next year.

http://chattamom.chattablogs.com/archives/Wheelchair-thumb.j...

Woooosh - 11-15-2011 at 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by bajalou
Just heard that 3 men in San Felipe have been treated there. All were to have knee surgery and elected this treatment. All 3 swear by it.

:?:

I have had two ACL knee reconstructions (I should have stopped skiing off cliffs at 30 I guess). For stem cells to regenerate a specific ligament, in place- would be the ultimate. I don't think stem cell therapies are that targeted -- yet.