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San Quintin beach pebbles-- where?

astrobaja - 12-9-2011 at 11:07 AM

Hi all,

We're doing a winter project of a rock pathway. We would like do do a greek style mosaic using black and white/tan small beach pebbles. I know KRC Rock sells San Quintin beach pebbles that come from Baja but where do you go to get them direct? Anybody know?

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durrelllrobert - 12-9-2011 at 11:22 AM

you might try the beach :lol::lol::lol:

sanquintinsince73 - 12-9-2011 at 11:30 AM

There is a small beach next to "Campo Don Alvaro" in La Chorera. That is where all of these stones are collected.

astrobaja - 12-9-2011 at 11:31 AM

everybodies a comedian on this board! Yeah well I meant pre-sorted and ready to buy......

sanquintinsince73 - 12-9-2011 at 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by astrobaja
everybodies a comedian on this board! Yeah well I meant pre-sorted and ready to buy......

Yes, that is what they do there. The Oaxacan women collecting the stones sort them as they collect them.

astrobaja - 12-9-2011 at 11:35 AM

thanks SQsince 73, time for a scouting mission.

BajaWarrior - 12-9-2011 at 04:39 PM

Astro,

I saw lots and lots of them bagged up between Quatro Casas and Shipwrecks as well.

Islandbuilder - 12-9-2011 at 05:21 PM

Lots of bags of cobbles north of La Chorera, always seems to be someone working around the stored bags, or guys on the beach. You should be able to find someone who will sell you pre-sorted cobbles directly.

BTW, we hope to meet you in February. We're driving from Washington to Todos Santos and back, and are trying to arrange time to visit as many small inns as possible en route. I'll contact you directly re: reservations.

BajaRat - 12-9-2011 at 06:06 PM

On the way out to the La Chorera there is a family that raises pigs with quite a few old bags of them on the property.
Unfortunately for anyone who has been out there lately the removal of these stones has added to the erosion of the beach road.

805gregg - 12-9-2011 at 08:11 PM

Home Depot

Udo - 12-9-2011 at 08:28 PM

If you wish to buy them in Baja, they have them by the 50 Kilo bag in Tecate. The road that parallels the border.
I have also seen them on the main road that goes perpendicular to Rosarito.
I don't know where you are looking for them Astro, but if I were to do this on my own, I would wait to catch the baggers in the beach in San Quintin and pay them $20.00 A BAG before they put them on the flat beds. That's about $16.00 a bag more than they get from the co-op. In the US, the bag is almost $150.00 U.S.

Hope this helps.

Bob and Susan - 12-10-2011 at 07:02 AM

remember how heavy those bags are...

transportation is going to be the cost

astrobaja - 12-10-2011 at 08:24 AM

Hi all,

Thanks for all the input! We had to pick up some hay for our horses in Colonia Guerrero, we asked the fellow if he knew of anybody nearby who had the stones. So we found Vincente in Camalu right on the the main road. We drove out to the beach where he had loads of sorted 40 lb bags. Mostly black, yellow, and a few reddish ones in all different sizes.
His price was $6 a bag so we grabbed a few. He ships to Tecate where the price goes up per bag. And they ship to the states to companies like KRC rock in San Diego where the prices go way up! Nice to get it right from the 2 brothers who do the hard work of gathering and avoid all the re-sellers.

Udo - 12-10-2011 at 08:32 AM

Ya gadda a helluva deal...Astro!

Good going!

DENNIS - 12-10-2011 at 08:44 AM

I hope the popularity of these coloful stones doesn't grow too large. That part of the coastline will end up as a great big hole in the ground.

woody with a view - 12-10-2011 at 08:46 AM

i dunno Dennis, there are a bunch of zeros behind whatever number you put on the amount of rocks out there.....

Udo - 12-10-2011 at 08:53 AM

Woody is correct in his remark, Dennis.
I have been to that beach, and there must be trillions of those rocks for several miles.
On another point, behind those rocks are large dry lagoons that generally fill with seawater at appropriate times.

bajabass - 12-10-2011 at 09:23 AM

The resource needs to be managed I'm thinking. There used to be trillions of fish, sharks, lobster, shrimp, ect. as well. It may take years and years, or a corporation could get involved:rolleyes:, bring in the heavy equipment, and speed up the process.

BajaRat - 12-10-2011 at 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno Dennis, there are a bunch of zeros behind whatever number you put on the amount of rocks out there.....



Ive watched the beach south of BajaGringos place change for the worse in just my short life time. The beach had a bench of the small coveted black stones that created a break wall and sand trap that has played a part in the creation and preservation of the dunes protecting the bay.


Every action elicits a reaction. Sorry that's a law man didn't make:cool:

David K - 12-10-2011 at 10:31 AM

They used to mine and sell the beach gravel south of El Rosario... then the feds jumped in and said "NO"... The beach is Federal Zone and no one person can take it away... (of course with the proper 'permits' and maybe mordita to big government, the rules are changed).

sanquintinsince73 - 12-10-2011 at 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by BajaRat
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno Dennis, there are a bunch of zeros behind whatever number you put on the amount of rocks out there.....



Ive watched the beach south of BajaGringos place change for the worse in just my short life time. The beach had a bench of the small coveted black stones that created a break wall and sand trap that has played a part in the creation and preservation of the dunes protecting the bay.


Every action elicits a reaction. Sorry that's a law man didn't make:cool:


Over the years I have seen the collecting of stones take it's toll on the little beach area. The elevation of the beach was much higher than it is now. The loss of so many stones has caused erosion to the point where many years ago during a storm, the waves almost breached the sand dunes that protect the bay and it's oyster beds. The locals claim that any breach would be disastrous to the oyster beds in San Quintin Bay.

baronvonbob - 12-10-2011 at 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
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Originally posted by BajaRat
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno Dennis, there are a bunch of zeros behind whatever number you put on the amount of rocks out there.....



Ive watched the beach south of BajaGringos place change for the worse in just my short life time. The beach had a bench of the small coveted black stones that created a break wall and sand trap that has played a part in the creation and preservation of the dunes protecting the bay.


Earlier this year the Federals were surveying the beach and the dunes measuring the changes,


Every action elicits a reaction. Sorry that's a law man didn't make:cool:


Over the years I have seen the collecting of stones take it's toll on the little beach area. The elevation of the beach was much higher than it is now. The loss of so many stones has caused erosion to the point where many years ago during a storm, the waves almost breached the sand dunes that protect the bay and it's oyster beds. The locals claim that any breach would be disastrous to the oyster beds in San Quintin Bay.

DENNIS - 12-10-2011 at 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by bajabass
The resource needs to be managed I'm thinking.



Yeah...for sure. Just wait til China finds a use for them.

mtgoat666 - 12-10-2011 at 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Quote:
Originally posted by BajaRat
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno Dennis, there are a bunch of zeros behind whatever number you put on the amount of rocks out there.....



Ive watched the beach south of BajaGringos place change for the worse in just my short life time. The beach had a bench of the small coveted black stones that created a break wall and sand trap that has played a part in the creation and preservation of the dunes protecting the bay.


Every action elicits a reaction. Sorry that's a law man didn't make:cool:


Over the years I have seen the collecting of stones take it's toll on the little beach area. The elevation of the beach was much higher than it is now. The loss of so many stones has caused erosion to the point where many years ago during a storm, the waves almost breached the sand dunes that protect the bay and it's oyster beds. The locals claim that any breach would be disastrous to the oyster beds in San Quintin Bay.


i doubt the aggregate mining has removed a significant amount of sediment compared to storms and natural processes.

in the big picture, you global warming's increase in sea level and increase in storm intensity and frequency will probably be 10X more detrimental to SQ oyster beds. notice that this is not political, as i did not say who or what is causing global warming!

David K - 12-10-2011 at 03:08 PM

Yet, the sea level remains the same... People who live (or camp) next to the sea in Baja over the past 40 or more years, still do, at the same location... The exception is where the beach has changed/ moved from other natural or manmade causes... but the level of the ocean remains within a few inches of when accurate measurements were first recorded. Global Warming caused by man is a hoax. Climate change has been happening for a billion years and raising taxes for Big Government won't change a thing other than hurt people.

Terry28 - 12-10-2011 at 06:13 PM

Yeah!! and wrestling is real and the moon landing was faked...David your knowledge of Baja is deep...maybe stay with that....

BajaRat - 12-10-2011 at 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Yet, the sea level remains the same... People who live (or camp) next to the sea in Baja over the past 40 or more years, still do, at the same location... The exception is where the beach has changed/ moved from other natural or manmade causes... but the level of the ocean remains within a few inches of when accurate measurements were first recorded. Global Warming caused by man is a hoax. Climate change has been happening for a billion years and raising taxes for Big Government won't change a thing other than hurt people.


Dear David, Who loves ya baby,
The point I was Making has nothing to do with sea level rise and every thing to do with what happens when these small stones are removed. They have gathered and formed there over many of our lifetimes to help create what we know as San Quintin bay. They have softened the harsh blows of the relentless Pacific waves and trapped the sand with the help of the plants stabilizing the dunes. That section of beach already washes into the bays wetlands under extreme conditions.

Everything we do has consequences.

David K - 12-11-2011 at 11:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaRat
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Yet, the sea level remains the same... People who live (or camp) next to the sea in Baja over the past 40 or more years, still do, at the same location... The exception is where the beach has changed/ moved from other natural or manmade causes... but the level of the ocean remains within a few inches of when accurate measurements were first recorded. Global Warming caused by man is a hoax. Climate change has been happening for a billion years and raising taxes for Big Government won't change a thing other than hurt people.


Dear David, Who loves ya baby,
The point I was Making has nothing to do with sea level rise and every thing to do with what happens when these small stones are removed. They have gathered and formed there over many of our lifetimes to help create what we know as San Quintin bay. They have softened the harsh blows of the relentless Pacific waves and trapped the sand with the help of the plants stabilizing the dunes. That section of beach already washes into the bays wetlands under extreme conditions.

Everything we do has consequences.


I agree with you... I was responding to Mt. Goat 666 (who follows the religion preached by algore, regardless of facts)...

Have a great Sunday!

MMc - 12-11-2011 at 02:32 PM

The beach's below Punta Baja is full of rock farmers and they have had bumper crops for years. They are sorted by size and color. MMc

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