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3 Principles of Self-Defense

unbob - 12-16-2011 at 03:18 PM

Just stumbled onto this excellent article ... worth a read!

Essentially addresses how to avoid or how best to respond to violence. Makes sense to me although I'm sure others may have "issues". In any case, these strategies may save your life!

The Truth about Violence

David K - 12-16-2011 at 03:44 PM

Since this article isn't about Baja, (where guns are not allowed to be possesed by law abiding people... and killings happen becaue the criminals hold an avantage)... here is my non Baja reply:

So, per that blog you should do nothing, call police, and run away... hmmm... Seems to me, that set of suggestions are letting the evil ones get away with it and saying their behavior is okay? That can only increase the lawlessness.

Better, is to increase our ability to defend our property and persons... in essence everyone becomes their own police (because the real police will not be there to save you when it counts... until after you have been attacked).

Buy a gun, learn how to use it, and once the criminals know they can't do whatever they want without consequences, crime will go down.

The cities with the strongest gun control have the HIGHEST crime rates. The places where citizens are encouraged to be armed, have the lowest... It isn't rocket science!

[Edited on 12-16-2011 by David K]

sanquintinsince73 - 12-16-2011 at 04:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Since this article isn't about Baja, (where guns are not allowed to be possesed by law abiding people... and killings happen becaue the criminals hold an avantage)... here is my non Baja reply:

So, per that blog you should do nothing, call police, and run away... hmmm... Seems to me, that set of suggestions are letting the evil ones get away with it and saying their behavior is okay? That can only increase the lawlessness.

Better, is to increase our ability to defend our property and persons... in essence everyone becomes their own police (because the real police will not be there to save you when it counts... until after you have been attacked).

Buy a gun, learn how to use it, and once the criminals know they can't do whatever they want without consequences, crime will go down.

The cities with the strongest gun control have the HIGHEST crime rates. The places where citizens are encouraged to be armed, have the lowest... It isn't rocket science!

[Edited on 12-16-2011 by David K]


As those of us who have a nice inventory of weapons like to say: "Criminals prefer unarmed victims".

mcfez - 12-16-2011 at 04:26 PM

"..............What if your attacker has a knife to your child’s throat and tells you that everything is going to be okay as long as you cooperate by lying face down on the floor? Don’t do it. It would be better to flee the house"


Yeah righto. Thank the God's this guy aint MY dad!
Rubbish of a blog.

David K - 12-16-2011 at 04:35 PM

Again, not a Baja scenario... where we can't (legally) protect ourselves with equal or greater force. In Baja, it may be the only solution... but here, America would turn into an animal farm (and it is already on its way)!

sancho - 12-16-2011 at 04:37 PM

1 thing that was posted here recently was a case where
a Mex National attempted to stop a robbery, I believe it
was in TJ, the robber was injured, the guy that was
attempting to stop it was found guilty of injurying the
robber, and had to either serve some time or make
monetary restitution. I can't see how a Gringo would
want to put himself on THAT end of the Mex Justice
System. I can't see much positive about using a
weapon on a Mex Citizen, talk about a can of worms.
Being physically assualted takes it to a different level
though, and would require a totally different response.
To me the more common crime is to be robbed,
to that I would give up my wallet and the $20 in pesos

David K - 12-16-2011 at 04:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
1 thing that was posted here recently was a case where
a Mex National attempted to stop a robbery, I believe it
was in TJ, the robber was injured, the guy that was
attempting to stop it was found guilty of injurying the
robber, and had to either serve some time or make
monetary restitution. I can't see how a Gringo would
want to put himself on THAT end of the Mex Justice
System. I can't see much positive about using a
weapon on a Mex Citizen, talk about a can of worms.
Being physically assualted takes it to a different level
though, and would require a totally different response.
To me the more common crime is to be robbed,
to that I would give up my wallet and the $20 in pesos


Sounds like Leftist, Liberal judges have got to be removed on both sides of the border whenever they put criminal rights ahead of victim rights... Why the hell do criminals get any rights over their victims, anyway?

MikeYounghusband - 12-16-2011 at 04:45 PM

I asked a Mexican friend about protecting my home with a weapon and his response was, "don't do it, he will run away and come back with a gun and friends"

sanquintinsince73 - 12-16-2011 at 04:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
1 thing that was posted here recently was a case where
a Mex National attempted to stop a robbery, I believe it
was in TJ, the robber was injured, the guy that was
attempting to stop it was found guilty of injurying the
robber, and had to either serve some time or make
monetary restitution. I can't see how a Gringo would
want to put himself on THAT end of the Mex Justice
System. I can't see much positive about using a
weapon on a Mex Citizen, talk about a can of worms.
Being physically assualted takes it to a different level
though, and would require a totally different response.
To me the more common crime is to be robbed,
to that I would give up my wallet and the $20 in pesos


If someone just wants your wallet let him have it. If the situation appears to be going south quickly, I'll open up the "can of worms" to protect my family. northamericanarms.com

woody with a view - 12-16-2011 at 04:51 PM

i asked a buddy about kicking the sheets outta some turd after i caught the guy coming into my window at night. he said i would go to jail and then have to pay the turd.

it sounds like it will be worth it!

DENNIS - 12-16-2011 at 04:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MikeYounghusband
I asked a Mexican friend about protecting my home with a weapon and his response was, "don't do it, he will run away and come back with a gun and friends"


That's why you should empty a clip into the guy and bury him in the desert.

Islandbuilder - 12-16-2011 at 05:14 PM

I need to remember that I'm not as strong or as fast as I once was, and acknowledge that I never answer the door with a pistol in my hand.

I can see the wisdom of the blog writters advice, even though he gives some advice that would be difficult to follow in the midst of an attack.

I think that many of us have a skewed vision of reality, one heavily colored by years of cop shops and movies where the good guys shoot the bad guy holding the kid or pretty girl hostage with a from the hip 50' away pistol shot in the forehead. Is this really the shot that any of us want to make while adrenilin pours through our systems and we're shaking like a wet dog?

I agree with DavidK about the absurdity of a law abiding citizen facing anything other than an awards ceremony for shooting or beating the pudding out of a home invader, but we have all seen many instances where the home owner ends up giving the perp a million bucks via the court system. And that's in the US, who knows how that scenario would play out in another country, especially one with a Roman-based legal system?

The knife at the throat of our child scene is a very tough one, but I appreciate the logic of the authors advice: The guy is probably going to kill you all anyway, so by running to the neighbors, he at least knows that more people, some with guns and bats, are going to be on the scene very soon. I tend to think that this would increase, not decrease, your childs chances of survival.

I am old, and all I have to do is paddle out on a 4'+ day to be reminded of all the strength and endurance I've left somewhere (can't remember where though). No need to put my feebleness up against one or more 20 year olds just to save a flat screen or my wallet.

I am a fan of the two wallet approach. Important stuff and big bills in a deeply hidden wallet, and lots of reciepts, small bills and library cards in a throw down wallet. Confronted by evil, toss the discount wallet and run like heck, (which is pretty acurate). By the time the bad guy figures out he has $12.75 and the ability to check out the collected works of Shakespere and nothing more, I hope to be locked into a car or at least have some range between us.

David K - 12-16-2011 at 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by soulpatch
Quote:
Originally posted by David K

Sounds like Leftist, Liberal judges have got to be removed on both sides of the border whenever they put criminal rights ahead of victim rights... Why the hell do criminals get any rights over their victims, anyway?


Well, I believe it is partially because we have an adversarial judicial system, certain inalienable rights and the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Could that be part of it?

Yes, I know, a very simplistic view but that is what I remember from school.


If the guy is coming into my widow or has a knife on my wife or daughter... HE LOSSES HIS RIGHTS and HE IS PROVEN GUILTY, by me (I just appointed myself as judge in this case). Hey, I am the law abiding citizen, I didn't attack the criminal... he attacked me/ my family/ my property... There is no question of his guilt or my defending myself.

The only 'rights' he has is some lib defence attorney getting him as little or no charges and letting him walk the streets again. Huh? Remember OJ Simpson? If that waiter or OJ's wife had a gun, they would be alive today, and not the killer who walks the streets.

who made this political?

mtgoat666 - 12-16-2011 at 05:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
1 thing that was posted here recently was a case where
a Mex National attempted to stop a robbery, I believe it
was in TJ, the robber was injured, the guy that was
attempting to stop it was found guilty of injurying the
robber, and had to either serve some time or make
monetary restitution. I can't see how a Gringo would
want to put himself on THAT end of the Mex Justice
System. I can't see much positive about using a
weapon on a Mex Citizen, talk about a can of worms.
Being physically assualted takes it to a different level
though, and would require a totally different response.
To me the more common crime is to be robbed,
to that I would give up my wallet and the $20 in pesos


Sounds like Leftist, Liberal judges have got to be removed on both sides of the border whenever they put criminal rights ahead of victim rights... Why the hell do criminals get any rights over their victims, anyway?


laws are laws. just because you don't like them does not mean it is a liberal conspiracy.
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Why the hell do criminals get any rights over their victims, anyway?


because all have same rights and obligations, no matter of criminal or victim. the criminals are not given "rights over victims." the victim is not endowed with license to violate law.

p.s. all you guys talk tough. is that your 45 cal. pen1$ talking? bet you would act differently in real situation!

David K - 12-16-2011 at 05:19 PM

Well maybe pepper spray would work as well as a 45... but I kind of think it would just pee off the criminal.

The victim is allowed to live and not become a victim... sorry goat... you are not thinking in the real world, again.

captkw - 12-16-2011 at 05:20 PM

DAVID K for presadent,,with Ron paul as 2nd in comanned !!:cool:

if it doesn't fit it must be the fault of liberals

mtgoat666 - 12-16-2011 at 05:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
If the guy is coming into my widow or has a knife on my wife or daughter... HE LOSSES HIS RIGHTS and HE IS PROVEN GUILTY, by me (I just appointed myself as judge in this case). Hey, I am the law abiding citizen, I didn't attack the criminal... he attacked me/ my family/ my property... There is no question of his guilt or my defending myself.

The only 'rights' he has is some lib defence attorney getting him as little or no charges and letting him walk the streets again. Huh? Remember OJ Simpson? If that waiter or OJ's wife had a gun, they would be alive today, and not the killer who walks the streets.


Just because you don't like a courts decision does not mean it was a liberal defense lawyer. Many conservative lawyers out there practicing defense. The defense lawyer is obligated to represent his client and has no obligation to represent the pigeon gallery!

And re OJ, he was acquitted by a jury, and that in my book says he is not guilty. If you don't like the decision, tough! The system allowed ample opportunity for the prosecution to prove their case and they could not. If anything, the system is unfair to the accused.

Where do we get these numbnuts who blame everything on liberals?

[Edited on 12-17-2011 by mtgoat666]

woody with a view - 12-16-2011 at 05:33 PM

goat for president! (and i ain't no lib)

dismemberment for the turds who cross any of our paths.....

[Edited on 12-17-2011 by woody with a view]

sanquintinsince73 - 12-16-2011 at 05:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
1 thing that was posted here recently was a case where
a Mex National attempted to stop a robbery, I believe it
was in TJ, the robber was injured, the guy that was
attempting to stop it was found guilty of injurying the
robber, and had to either serve some time or make
monetary restitution. I can't see how a Gringo would
want to put himself on THAT end of the Mex Justice
System. I can't see much positive about using a
weapon on a Mex Citizen, talk about a can of worms.
Being physically assualted takes it to a different level
though, and would require a totally different response.
To me the more common crime is to be robbed,
to that I would give up my wallet and the $20 in pesos


Sounds like Leftist, Liberal judges have got to be removed on both sides of the border whenever they put criminal rights ahead of victim rights... Why the hell do criminals get any rights over their victims, anyway?


laws are laws. just because you don't like them does not mean it is a liberal conspiracy.
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Why the hell do criminals get any rights over their victims, anyway?


because all have same rights and obligations, no matter of criminal or victim. the criminals are not given "rights over victims." the victim is not endowed with license to violate law.

p.s. all you guys talk tough. is that your 45 cal. pen1$ talking? bet you would act differently in real situation!


Tell you what goat, I got my first knife pulled on me when I was 10 years old in East L.A. Would I have gotten shanked had I not given up my lunch money? Who knows, but I thought of that day every day for a few years after and I swore never again. You know what?.....Never again!

Ricardo - 12-16-2011 at 05:55 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened

DENNIS - 12-16-2011 at 05:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened


Mengano will deal with you momentarily. :lol:

sanquintinsince73 - 12-16-2011 at 06:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened


Mengano will deal with you momentarily. :lol:


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

mtgoat666 - 12-16-2011 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened



those statistics are just a pack of lies told by liberals! :lol::lol:

Ricardo - 12-16-2011 at 06:06 PM

One day I will have a beer with you Dennis, I'll be in LaPaz Jan 7 to Mar 7.
Rick. I don't know how to do the laughing face thing.
Rick

David K - 12-16-2011 at 06:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened



those statistics are just a pack of lies told by liberals! :lol::lol:


A Christmas miracle... Goat has seen the light! :yes:;):lol:

DENNIS - 12-16-2011 at 06:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
One day I will have a beer with you Dennis, I'll be in LaPaz Jan 7 to Mar 7.
Rick. I don't know how to do the laughing face thing.
Rick



I'll look forward to it, Rick. It's still a small world and I'm buying.

My principles

Dave - 12-16-2011 at 06:48 PM

Shoot often and early.

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store not a government agency.

woody with a view - 12-16-2011 at 06:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Shoot often and early.

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store not a government agency.


Dave

ever since your Jewish streak ended and there have been no more posts of the best Pastrami that side of the Tijuana River - and i think i can even over look your hatred of surfers.....

what i'm trying to say is this is the cleverest thing you have ever said. :lol::lol::lol::light::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Lee - 12-16-2011 at 06:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
That's why you should empty a clip into the guy and bury him in the desert.


Always get a warm and fuzzy when I read like-minded folks out there.

Of course, logic wins here: no corpus delicti, no crime.

Be afraid of the criminals? Not even close. Liberal fluff? Bury them deep. Don't talk about it.

I can't take the credit

Dave - 12-16-2011 at 07:03 PM

I saw it on a T-shirt at a gun show.

sanquintinsince73 - 12-16-2011 at 07:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
I saw it on a T-shirt at a gun show.


Should've bought a few and sold them here to us "gunners". :bounce:

David K - 12-16-2011 at 07:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
Quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Shoot often and early.

Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a convenience store not a government agency.


Dave

ever since your Jewish streak ended and there have been no more posts of the best Pastrami that side of the Tijuana River - and i think i can even over look your hatred of surfers.....

what i'm trying to say is this is the cleverest thing you have ever said. :lol::lol::lol::light::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Speaking of happier times... Dave, what are you doing since the Nueva York Deli closed? It used to be fun to go to Baja for a good pastrami sandwich!!!

mcfez - 12-16-2011 at 08:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
One day I will have a beer with you Dennis, I'll be in LaPaz Jan 7 to Mar 7.
Rick. I don't know how to do the laughing face thing.
Rick



I'll look forward to it, Rick. It's still a small world and I'm buying.


I'm coming too...soon as I run out the door and leave my kid to the nutcase that has a knife and death on his mind. Sorry son...beer is more important.

Ricardo - 12-16-2011 at 08:31 PM

I think that would be great, mcfez and dennis, (a little scarey) I just have to figger out a way to make it happen.
Rick, OH yeh HO HO Merry Christmas.

Old Wife's Tail or urban Myth???

bajagrouper - 12-17-2011 at 05:47 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Since this article isn't about Baja, (where guns are not allowed to be possesed by law abiding people... and killings happen becaue the criminals hold an avantage)... here is my non Baja reply:
_______________________________________________
David,

Guns are allowed in Mexico by law abiding people, there are certain restrictions and conditions but gun laws have changed in Mexico in the last ten years...

I walked into an antique store and saw hanging on the wall and purchased an 1894 Winchester 30-30 carbine, took the bill of sale to my nearest army post and registered it and received a permit to transfer it back to my home....I am a US citizen with an FM3, so anyone that tells you that you can not have a legal gun or rifle in mexico is wrong...Just look at Article 27 of the Mexican Constitution...........

[Edited on 12-18-2011 by bajagrouper]

David K - 12-17-2011 at 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajagrouper
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
Since this article isn't about Baja, (where guns are not allowed to be possesed by law abiding people... and killings happen becaue the criminals hold an avantage)... here is my non Baja reply:
_______________________________________________
David,

Guns are allowed in Mexico by law abiding people, there are certain restrictions and conditions but gun laws have changed in Mexico in the last ten years...

I walked into an antique store and saw hanging on the wall and purchased an 1894 Winchester 30-30 carbine, took the bill of sale to my nearest army post and registered it and received a permit to transfer it back to my home....I am a US citizen with an FM3, so anyone that tells you that you can not have a legal gun or rifle in mexico is wrong...Just look at Article 27 of the Mexican Constitution...........

[Edited on 12-18-2011 by bajagrouper]


I wonder why the signage as you are heading south warning that guns and ammo are illegal in Mexico is all about then?

I know that once hunting was an important tourist attraction in Baja (1970's or before)... and all that has changed.

Please show the steps to take protective firearms into Mexico... not hunting rifles only. For tourists (FMM) not part time residents (FM-3) as well. Thank you!:bounce:

David K

captkw - 12-17-2011 at 06:05 PM

Hola, david K,,1894 ? really,,now that's cool,,can you post a pic of it.. when I was a kid (10or so) we sneaked into the winchester mystery house at night a coulpe of time's and that was scary,,could not pay me to do it today:lol::lol: K&T

bajagrouper - 12-17-2011 at 06:06 PM

David, I was not addressing tourists, like you did not mention tourists in your message, just law abiding people..They must have at least an FM3...
http://rollybrook.com/guns.htm

[Edited on 12-18-2011 by bajagrouper]

Marc - 12-17-2011 at 09:14 PM

Three Principles of Self Defense;
1) 38 Cal
2) 45 Cal
3) 44 mag Cal
Got 'em all (& more)

Roberto - 12-17-2011 at 09:40 PM

Mexico most definitely has a constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms. The signs are the for people who don't know or care to understand the laws of the country they are visiting, which probably includes most U.S. citizens. I can think of a few examples in this thread. And tourists.
Quote:

Article 27: The right to bear arms will only be authorized for foreigners when, in addition to satisfying the requirements indicated in the previous article, they accredit their status of "Inmigrados" [equivalent to permanent residents], except in the case of temporary license permits for tourists with sports-related intentions.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Mexico

Does that mean I can drive into Mexico with a firearm in my possession? As a tourist? No. But that's pretty tough to do in the U.S. as well.


[Edited on 12-18-2011 by Roberto]

Mengano - 12-17-2011 at 10:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened


Mengano will deal with you momentarily. :lol:


It's Christmas. I'm letting people slide until after New Year's.
:rolleyes:

mtgoat666 - 12-18-2011 at 09:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mengano
Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo
Sorry to burst your bubble David K but,
fire arm deaths per 100 thousand residents.
US 15.22
Mexico 12.07
Canada 4.78
You may feel safer but are you?
Rick
OK can of worms opened


Mengano will deal with you momentarily. :lol:


It's Christmas. I'm letting people slide until after New Year's.
:rolleyes:


xmas would be a different holiday if only jesus had the right to carry a concealed automatic pistola! he would have lived and died a boring way never gaining his martyr status, and history would ave been different and we would all be celebrating kwanza!

DENNIS - 12-18-2011 at 09:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
xmas would be a different holiday if only jesus had the right to carry a concealed automatic pistola!


Yeah...right. And, if Custer had just one machine gun, you wouldn't be spending your time in a local casino.
If If If If If...........

Bajafun777 - 12-18-2011 at 10:04 AM

To Fight or Flight is answered only at the time of the danger. Have seen people that always seemed to be functional if put in danger or helping others in danger just freeze not doing anything. Have also seen people that were thought to be afraid of everything fight like hell in danger situation, so you never know until it happens. Unless you have had experiences in dealing with different dangerous situations before, then you have a good idea of what you can do. This is why we have law enforcement because they are given enough situations to be able to respond in some fashion to help, Hopefully!

Now, in my home and in a situation of someone armed breaking into it trying to harm my family it will be settled quickly with two to the mass and one to the head, danger resolved and then 911 call.

In Mexico you just have to use what is available in your house and that again is up to the person living there. In Mexico or USA just because you cooperate does not mean you will be unharmed or not killed, so again the decision to live or FIGHT is up to you. Hopefully, none on this Bajanomad site will have to go through such a choice but some have. Some here have been very fortunate, however some have not been. May God watch over all of you and make sure those doors and windows are closed and locked at night. Big Dog or Dogs, Stun gun, Loud Alarms and baseball bat for a couple makes for at least a chance while in Mexico, however if they have a gun then all bets are off do what you need to do. Take Care & Travel Safe==="No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN" bajafun777

David K - 12-18-2011 at 10:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajagrouper
David, I was not addressing tourists, like you did not mention tourists in your message, just law abiding people..They must have at least an FM3...
http://rollybrook.com/guns.htm

[Edited on 12-18-2011 by bajagrouper]


Thank you...

I do think a tourist has a right to protect himself from death as much as another person. Alas, not like the old days when having a gun on a Mexican trip was 'normal'.

When did guns used as a tool by honest people become a bad thing and guns in the hands of criminals baecome a standard thing?

ElCazadorAZ - 12-20-2011 at 01:49 PM

Quote:
Quote:


That's why you should empty a clip into the guy and bury him in the desert.


For clarification, unless you're firing an M1 Rifle, the correct term is a "Magazine". H

DENNIS - 12-20-2011 at 03:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ElCazadorAZ
For clarification, unless you're firing an M1 Rifle, the correct term is a "Magazine". H


OK...beat the guy to death with an issue of Penthouse. Whatever you do, just make sure he's dead before dumping him in the desert. :biggrin:

sancho - 12-20-2011 at 03:57 PM

This and 1 other thread seem to be good end of the yr.
rants/vents. Am I to conclude that use of a gun
would land a Gringo Tourista in the Carcel?
I understand the use of the Wasp Spray will possibly
result in permanent blindness? again sounds like
time in prison. D, correct me if I'm wrong, but
isn't Pornography illegal in Mex? Whats a guy to do? I volunteer to
bring incarcerated BN's churros with files baked in

DENNIS - 12-20-2011 at 04:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
D, correct me if I'm wrong, but
isn't Pornography illegal in Mex? Whats a guy to do? I volunteer to
bring incarcerated BN's churros with files baked in


I don't think so. There was a time not too far back, that mags like Penthouse and Playboy were unheard of here, but that was probably only tradition.
Now, they're most everywhere in plastic wrappers so the kids don't gawk at them.
One only has to watch the weather on TV to see how times have changed here. It's a regular skin show.

sanquintinsince73 - 12-20-2011 at 04:24 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by ElCazadorAZ


That's why you should empty a clip into the guy and bury him in the desert.


For clarification, unless you're firing an M1 Rifle, the correct term is a "Magazine". H


From Wiki:

A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, though this usage is technically incorrect. In the correct usage, a clip is used to feed a magazine or revolving cylinder, while a magazine or a belt is used to load cartridges into the chamber of a firearm.[1]

ElCazadorAZ - 12-21-2011 at 12:07 PM

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That's why you should empty a clip into the guy and bury him in the desert.


For clarification, unless you're firing an M1 Rifle, the correct term is a "Magazine". H


From Wiki:

A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, though this usage is technically incorrect. In the correct usage, a clip is used to feed a magazine or revolving cylinder, while a magazine or a belt is used to load cartridges into the chamber of a firearm.[1]


Yeah, and we all know without a doubt that Wiki is the ultimate word on all information on the planet and is unapproachable in it's authority for flawless and accurate dissemination of said knowledge base.

The term "Clip" comes from the enbloc 8 round metal clip designed by John C. Garand for use in his 1930's designed U.S. M1 Rifle, .30 Cal.
It has recently been perverted into a slang and incorrect term used by the contemporary uninformed (Hollywood and Gang-Bangers) and typically untrained firearms owner. It then gets misused frequently enough for the population to believe that its true and gets entered into Wiki and from that point forward regarded as fact. Ask any old guy. He knows. Or believe what you want.... H, out.




[Edited on 12-21-2011 by ElCazadorAZ]

mtgoat666 - 12-21-2011 at 12:17 PM

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That's why you should empty a clip into the guy and bury him in the desert.


For clarification, unless you're firing an M1 Rifle, the correct term is a "Magazine". H


From Wiki:

A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for insertion into the magazine or cylinder of a firearm. This speeds up the process of loading and reloading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.

The term clip is commonly used to describe a firearm magazine, though this usage is technically incorrect. In the correct usage, a clip is used to feed a magazine or revolving cylinder, while a magazine or a belt is used to load cartridges into the chamber of a firearm.[1]


Yeah, and we all know without a doubt that Wiki is the ultimate word on all information on the planet and is unapproachable in it's authority for flawless and accurate dissemination of said knowledge base.

The term "Clip" comes from the enbloc 8 round metal clip designed by John C. Garand for use in his 1930's designed U.S. M1 Rifle, .30 Cal.
It has recently been perverted into a slang and incorrect term used by the contemporary uninformed (Hollywood and Gang-Bangers) and typically untrained firearms owner. It then gets misused frequently enough for the population to believe that its true and gets entered into Wiki and from that point forward regarded as fact. Ask any old guy who knows. Or believe Wiki. Its your thang. Do whacha wanna do.... H.

[Edited on 12-21-2011 by ElCazadorAZ]


you can't expect people to forever stick to using 1930s american english. language is fluid, word use and definitions change over time. i think you are pi$$ing into the wind trying to tell people how to use the word "clip."

DENNIS - 12-21-2011 at 12:22 PM

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i think you are pi$$ing into the wind trying to tell people how to use the word "clip."



Yeah....try to tell this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel

ElCazadorAZ - 12-21-2011 at 12:24 PM

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you can't expect people to forever stick to using 1930s american english. language is fluid, word use and definitions change over time. i think you are pi$$ing into the wind trying to tell people how to use the word "clip."


Actually, the correct terminology probably survived until about when Miami Vice came on TV, but you are absolutely correct: We don't speak Shakespearean English, the printed page is disappearing along with manners and common courtesy. Time marches on. Change is inevitable. Call it a clip. I'll call it a mag. I give. H.

ElCazadorAZ - 12-21-2011 at 12:26 PM

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i think you are pi$$ing into the wind trying to tell people how to use the word "clip."



Yeah....try to tell this guy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel


I don't think that's the kind of "clip" we were talking about! :lol: