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Latest on the Passport Card and "READY LANE" in San Ysidro and Otay Mesa.......

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 11:39 AM

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/dec/14/ready-lane-to...

[Edited on 1-7-12 by KASHEYDOG]

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 12:48 PM

Get your's now........

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

mtgoat666 - 12-19-2011 at 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Get your's now........

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

so why is a passport book now a second-class form of ID at border and rejected at ready lane?

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Get your's now........

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

so why is a passport book now a second-class form of ID at border and rejected at ready lane?

The book doesn't have the "radio chip" in it. Plus, as a side benefit, it's a whole lot easier to carry. Don't forget, mtgoat 666, you really "don't have" to get it. If you're offended, as they say "don't go away mad, just GO AWAY"........ :smug:

[Edited on 12-19-11 by KASHEYDOG]

mcfez - 12-19-2011 at 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Get your's now........

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

Good post KASHEYDOG!

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
Get your's now........

http://travel.state.gov/passport/ppt_card/ppt_card_3926.html

Good post KASHEYDOG!

Thanks mcfez.....

...I've got the Sentri pass but just went on line and got the passport card. I figure it's a great back up just in case..........whatever happens. I always like to be prepared for the worst.....

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Passport Book RFIDs

MrBillM - 12-19-2011 at 05:42 PM

What I read said that the New Passport Books DO include an RFID in the Back Cover.

Given that the cover is substantially thicker than the old one, it seemed reasonable.

THAT isn't TRUE ?

J.P. - 12-19-2011 at 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by MrBillM
What I read said that the New Passport Books DO include an RFID in the Back Cover.

Given that the cover is substantially thicker than the old one, it seemed reasonable.

THAT isn't TRUE ?

That is true but they say its not acceptable in the redy lane :?:

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by J.P.]

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by J.P.

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That is true but they say its not acceptable in the redy lane :?:

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by J.P.]

I've got my app. printed and going over to the post office first thing in the morning. I'll find out the latest and get back to ya..........

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Ateo - 12-19-2011 at 06:40 PM

Why make a passport card that kicks ass in all areas, except it's not accepted when flying internationally? So you end up needed multiple fricken passports. Argh. :no:

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 06:42 PM

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Originally posted by willardguy
came across friday afternoon,2hours 45 minutes. for the first time I used the east lanes along side the sentri lane. nothing worse than sitting there for 2hr45min watching sentri lane holders fly by while youre sitting there because once in your past you blew a .08!
I'll be interested to see if the ready lane helps us low lifes :spingrin:

Don't see how it couldn't help. If I were you I'd be getting your passport card tomorrow.

DON'T FORGET ONE THING... Just like Sentri lane EVERYBODY IN THE CAR MUST HAVE ONE. I think that's the time savings factor. Then they just have to check the car over......

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by ateo
Why make a passport card that kicks burro in all areas, except it's not accepted when flying internationally? So you end up needed multiple fricken passports. Argh. :no:

Oh, so now you want the U.S. government to be logical too ...........What planet did you say you're from..... Last time I looked in the dictionary they said government and logical was an oxymarooon......Sorry "ateo" ain't gonna happen

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Woooosh - 12-19-2011 at 07:07 PM

anyone using the Fast Pass lane at Say Ysidro today was hating life and the waste of their pass. It was full bumper to bumper going nowhere. They ended up closing the lane at the booth. No one was backing out of the lane- so you know there weren't any Mexicans driving those cars...

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh
anyone using the Fast Pass lane at Say Ysidro today was hating life and the waste of their pass. It was full bumper to bumper going nowhere. They ended up closing the lane at the booth. No one was backing out of the lane- so you know there weren't any Mexicans driving those cars...

Trouble with the "fast pass" lane is, it dumped you into just another lane with all the other cars. It was just a little ahead of some of the cars. In the "ready Lane" it'll be a dedicated lane. The key to the success will be if they enforce it like the Sentri lane. So the smart a$$es who think they can play dumb and don't have the documentation are turned around and sent to the back of the line. ALL THE WAY BACK.. .

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by soulpatch

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

The book doesn't have the "radio chip" in it. Plus, as a side benefit, it's a whole lot easier to carry. Don't forget, mtgoat 666, you really "don't have" to get it. If you're offended, as they say "don't go away mad, just GO AWAY"........ :smug:

[Edited on 12-19-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Actually, all of my family's books have the RFID in it.

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by soulpatch]

OOPS !!! Sorry bout that. My BAD....... Didn't know. Shows you how old my passport is. (2005). Guess when I go to the post office tomorrow I'll see if I can get it updated too.

fandango - 12-19-2011 at 07:40 PM

you can use your sentri card in the ready lane. it has the chip.

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by fandango
you can use your sentri card in the ready lane. it has the chip.

Yeah I know... I still like the idea of having both just in case. Maybe keep them in seperate places so you always have one somewhere.......
Plus it gives me a feeling of "POWER"............ And I HATE STANDING IN LINE. I did enough of that when I was in the Navy. Today I'll pay just about whatever it takes not to be "IN LINE" or just won't go at all. Just ain't worth it at my age............

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

Oh, so now you want the U.S. government to be logical too ...........What planet did you say you're from..... Last time I looked in the dictionary they said government and logical was an oxymarooon......Sorry "ateo" ain't gonna happen

soulpatch !!
Please refer to my post above ^^^ BTW..... I haven't seen anywhere that said they wouldn't accept the RFID in the passport. Unless I missed it somewhere...

My attitude...... "It is what it is".
If you've got a passport get a card for $30 or get all three with the Sentri pass. Why not........ It isn't worth $30 for ten years or $3 a year to sit in that damn line. I don't care if it's $1000 or $100 a year. I'M NOT SITTIN IN THAT 3 HOUR LINE. Get it........... Or just sit in the line and we'll wave at you and hand you a cold one as we ZIP by..............
Some how I have a feeling and it's just a feeling that if you were sitting in line for 2 hours with another hour to go and I told you for $30 bucks I could get you through the line right now you'd give it up on the spot. For a 1 time deal. Or at least I woud like to think you would. Wouldn't you ???? Please say yes.....

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Ready Lane

bajaguy - 12-19-2011 at 08:32 PM

I hate to throw cold water on this but I don't believe that the Ready Lane is going to solve a lot of the waiting in line problems.

Take a look at the Otay Ready Lanes. Wait times of an hour are common.....plus it's a zoo trying to get into the line.

If you can qualify, SENTRI is the best bet.

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
I hate to throw cold water on this but I don't believe that the Ready Lane is going to solve a lot of the waiting in line problems.

Take a look at the Otay Ready Lanes. Wait times of an hour are common.....plus it's a zoo trying to get into the line
If you can qualify, SENTRI is the best bet. .

Agreed. Thank you, Terry.
But for those who can"t qualify, the passport card will be better. From what I hear the lanes wil be better as dedicated lanes. They'll be the ones behind the Pueblo Amigo Hotel right next to the Sentri lanes when you drop down the hill into the lines.

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

fandango - 12-19-2011 at 08:47 PM

bajaguy you are so right. take a look at the wait times for the border right now.
otay regular is 1 hour 30 minutes
otay ready is 1 hour 20 minutes.
10 minutes, b*d.
do you think the ready lane is twice as long and they are processing them faster?
kashey, don't go to the border now!!!

KASHEYDOG - 12-19-2011 at 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by fandango
bajaguy you are so right. take a look at the wait times for the border right now.
otay regular is 1 hour 30 minutes
otay ready is 1 hour 20 minutes.
10 minutes, b*d.
do you think the ready lane is twice as long and they are processing them faster?
kashey, don't go to the border now!!!

Sorry, fandango. But I just checked both times.... Sentri pass lanes are 10 minutes.

http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/

And with my Sentri pass I come and go at will. 20 minutes being the longest I've ever waited. While the other lanes were 3 hours. Well worth the $25 a year we pay for Sentri....

[Edited on 12-20-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Cargo Carrier/Roof Rack

bajaguy - 12-19-2011 at 08:57 PM

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Oh, I'd say yes....
Maybe before next trip.... I need 4 total.
Sure wish I could pull a trailer through Sentri... hmmm, I wonder about a cargo carrier and roof rack.
I will have to check.

Yup, no problems. When we had our SUV, typically used the roof rack and a "Hitch Haul" cargo carrier in the Otay SENTRI lane.

BornFisher - 12-19-2011 at 09:39 PM

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Man that sounds like a nightmare! Great info, and I`m envious how you get this info. I want it!!
Hope the Ready Lanes work out. Remember, when they can check a vehicle through 20 seconds quicker, it helps all lanes.
When they first had the Otay lanes open, it was a holiday! About 10 minutes, maybe 15. BUT then everyone found out and bought cards and things evened out (same time in either type of lane).
Every little bit helps us all!!

Woooosh - 12-19-2011 at 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by BornFisher

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Originally posted by Woooosh

I`m envious how you get this info. I want it!!

One of the walking newspaper vendors gave us his walkie-talkie number and we can call him for updates...

Today I whizzed past them in the regular lanes. Not happy campers, but they didn't back out either. ???

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by Woooosh]

BornFisher - 12-19-2011 at 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by BornFisher

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Originally posted by Woooosh

I`m envious how you get this info. I want it!!

How awesome is that? Like I said, I`m envious. and to say it again "Great info". Thanks for that, but remember, don`t whizz in line!

Woooosh - 12-19-2011 at 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by BornFisher

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Originally posted by Woooosh

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Originally posted by BornFisher

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Originally posted by Woooosh

I`m envious how you get this info. I want it!!

How awesome is that? Like I said, I`m envious. and to say it again "Great info". Thanks for that, but remember, don`t whizz in line!

durrelllrobert - 12-20-2011 at 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by BornFisher

When they first had the Otay lanes open, it was a holiday! About 10 minutes, maybe 15. BUT then everyone found out and bought cards and things evened out (same time in either type of lane).
Every little bit helps us all!!

when te ready lanes open at SY it will releave alot of the traffic at otay.

durrelllrobert - 12-20-2011 at 11:41 AM

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Today (12/20) was the general meeting to get ready to open the SY Ready Lanes next Tuesday 12/27. If they were in those lanes yesterday expecting to get thru quickly they were 8 days too early.

appears the passport book with rfid can be used in ready lane

mtgoat666 - 12-20-2011 at 02:09 PM

the passport book with rfid can be used in ready lane, but text is not clear as mud

here is text from https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1211/~/ready-la...

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What documents can I use to enter the Ready Lane?

WHTI-compliant, RFID-enabled cards approved by the Department of Homeland Security include: the U.S. Passport Book and Card; the Enhanced Driver's License (EDL); the Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC); Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST cards); the new Enhanced Permanent Resident Card (PRC) or new Border Crossing Card (BCC).

SENTRI and NEXUS lanes are reserved strictly for the use of SENTRI and NEXUS card holders.

All travelers in the vehicle over the age of 16 must have an RFID-enabled card to use the Ready Lane. Children 15 years old and younger may travel in the Ready Lane with adult travelers if all adults in the vehicle have an RFID-enabled travel card.

U.S. Passport Cards can be obtained through the Department of State.

NEXUS/SENTRI/FAST cards can be obtained through CBP at www.CBP.gov.

Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDL) can be obtained from a local DMV or government office in the states of New York, Washington, Vermont, and Michigan, as well as in the Canadian provinces of Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec, and Manitoba. Note: If you applied and are waiting for the EDL, the receipt or temporary notice you may have received is NOT a valid travel document.

need a guinea pig to try it out at san ysidro xing

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by mtgoat666]

KASHEYDOG - 12-20-2011 at 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
the passport book with rfid can be used in ready lane, but text is not clear as mud

here is text from https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1211/~/ready-la...

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What documents can I use to enter the Ready Lane?

WHTI-compliant, RFID-enabled cards approved by the Department of Homeland Security include: the U.S. Passport Book and Card; the Enhanced Driver's License (EDL); the Enhanced Tribal Card (ETC); Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST cards); the new Enhanced Permanent Resident Card (PRC) or new Border Crossing Card (BCC).

SENTRI and NEXUS lanes are reserved strictly for the use of SENTRI and NEXUS card holders.

All travelers in the vehicle over the age of 16 must have an RFID-enabled card to use the Ready Lane. Children 15 years old and younger may travel in the Ready Lane with adult travelers if all adults in the vehicle have an RFID-enabled travel card.

U.S. Passport Cards can be obtained through the Department of State.

NEXUS/SENTRI/FAST cards can be obtained through CBP at www.CBP.gov.

Enhanced Driver's Licenses (EDL) can be obtained from a local DMV or government office in the states of New York, Washington, Vermont, and Michigan, as well as in the Canadian provinces of Ontario, British Columbia, Quebec, and Manitoba. Note: If you applied and are waiting for the EDL, the receipt or temporary notice you may have received is NOT a valid travel document.

need a guinea pig to try it out at san ysidro xing

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by mtgoat666]

Thanks goat..... That clears some stuff up. I had a feeling the passport RFID book would be accepted. Well I just got back from the post office and express mailing my app. for the card. So now I'll be covered with both Sentri and passport card..........

Bajahowodd - 12-20-2011 at 05:55 PM

Anyone care to consider, especially you long time border crossers, that the current state of affairs is totally political?

Combine the after 9/11 Bush administration hysteria with the current anti-immigrant stuff in a climate of high unemployment, and what you get are these 2-3 hour back ups at the fence, as if they are going to find terrorists hiding in the trunk of a Honda, or even illegals, who long ago realized they would have to hike across the desert. World gone mad.

Your tax dollars at work.

J.P. - 12-20-2011 at 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Anyone care to consider, especially you long time border crossers, that the current state of affairs is totally political?

Combine the after 9/11 Bush administration hysteria with the current anti-immigrant stuff in a climate of high unemployment, and what you get are these 2-3 hour back ups at the fence, as if they are going to find terrorists hiding in the trunk of a Honda, or even illegals, who long ago realized they would have to hike across the desert. World gone mad.

Your tax dollars at work.

WATCH OUT whenever your goverment says they are going to take care of you. They mean it literally. :fire:

mtgoat666 - 12-20-2011 at 07:05 PM

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tsa and cbp are terrorism theater. dumb a$$ citizens think they are protected by this program that counts as its biggest accomplishment hiring the mentally handicapped to staff airport security screenings.

KASHEYDOG - 12-23-2011 at 09:10 AM

BUMP

BornFisher - 12-23-2011 at 09:34 AM

Reading through this thread, it would seem the Ready Lanes were to open the 27th. Did they open the 20th? Are they open now? Has anyone gone through?
I asked on a separate thread but that one is locked now.

KASHEYDOG - 12-23-2011 at 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by BornFisher
Reading through this thread, it would seem the Ready Lanes were to open the 27th. Did they open the 20th? Are they open now? Has anyone gone through?
I asked on a separate thread but that one is locked now.

Good morning, BornFisher.....
That article was written on the 14th and was published on the 19th. It stated the lane was to open the next Tuesday which would have been the 27th. But I guess the SD Union expects us to figure out what the writter was thinking a week earlier.............Don't feel bad. It took me a couple of readings before I figured it out too.......... Chalk it up to the expertise of the writers and editors at the SD Union.........

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[Edited on 12-23-11 by KASHEYDOG]

BornFisher - 12-23-2011 at 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

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Good morning, BornFisher.....
That article was written on the 14th and was published on the 19th it stated the lane was to open the next Tuesday which would have been the 27th. But I guess the SD Union expects us to figure out what the writter was thinking a week earlier.............Don't feel bad. It took me a couple of readings before I figured it out too.......... Chalk it up to the expertise of the writers and editors at the SD Union......

[Edited on 12-23-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Whoa..... opened 3 days ago and I see no mention of it. Guess the Nomad crowd was confused too! And it`s all your fault KASEYDOG!!!

willardguy - 12-23-2011 at 10:00 AM

so its not open yet? but will be on the 27th?

KASHEYDOG - 12-23-2011 at 10:28 AM

From what I heard it opened on the 20th.......

[Edited on 12-23-11 by KASHEYDOG]

KASHEYDOG - 12-23-2011 at 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by BornFisher

Whoa..... opened 3 days ago and I see no mention of it. Guess the Nomad crowd was confused too! And it`s all your fault KASEYDOG!!!

Yeah, I know. I missed my calling. Should have been an editor for the SD Union......I tried but then I passed the IQ test. They said it wasn't low enough.........

[Edited on 12-23-11 by KASHEYDOG]

BornFisher - 12-23-2011 at 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG

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Originally posted by BornFisher

Whoa..... opened 3 days ago and I see no mention of it. Guess the Nomad crowd was confused too! And it`s all your fault KASEYDOG!!!

That actually means you flunked the IQ test! Hey where is Woooosh? He could call his newspaper guy and clear everything up.

Looks like the answer is "YES" the Ready Lanes are open in San Ysidro!!

[Edited on 12-23-2011 by BornFisher]

KASHEYDOG - 12-23-2011 at 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by BornFisher

That actually means you flunked the IQ test! Hey where is Woooosh? He could call his newspaper guy and clear everything up.

Looks like the answer is "YES" the Ready Lanes are open in San Ysidro!![Edited on 12-23-2011 by BornFisher]

Looks like the wait right now in the "Ready Lane " is 40 minutes and 1 hr 15 min in the standard lines.......http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/

[Edited on 12-23-11 by KASHEYDOG]

willardguy - 12-23-2011 at 11:29 AM

we'll take that. better than nothing!

KASHEYDOG - 12-26-2011 at 10:13 AM

This mornings wait times at 9 am

San Ysidro standard lanes 40 min.....ready lane 15 min....Sentri 1 min.

Otay Mesa...8 am...standard 25 min... Ready..15 min...Sentri.. 5 min......

http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/

[Edited on 12-26-11 by KASHEYDOG]

willardguy - 12-26-2011 at 12:16 PM

well that about figures. I traveled a day to early. evidently the key is the day after christmas!

This mornings wait times...8 am......Dec 27..

KASHEYDOG - 12-27-2011 at 09:51 AM

San Ysidro: Standard lane... 45 min../.. Ready ...20 min.../..Sentri.. 1 min

Otay Mesa: Standard...........40 min.../....Ready...25.../.. Sentri...10 min

[Edited on 12-27-11 by KASHEYDOG]

This mornings wait times...7 am......Dec 28............

KASHEYDOG - 12-28-2011 at 08:34 AM

San Ysidro: Standard lane... 10 min../.. Ready ...3 min.../..Sentri.. NO DELAY

Otay Mesa: Standard...........10 min.../....Ready...5 MIN.../.. Sentri...5 min

[Edited on 12-28-11 by KASHEYDOG]

This mornings wait times...11 am......Dec 28............

KASHEYDOG - 12-28-2011 at 12:12 PM

San Ysidro: Standard lane... 55 min../.. Ready ...25 min.../..Sentri....5 min.

Otay Mesa: Standard...........60 min.../....Ready...55 MIN.../.. Sentri...10 min

Wait times...3 pm......Dec 28............

KASHEYDOG - 12-28-2011 at 04:44 PM

San Ysidro: Standard lane... 1hr 50 min ../.. Ready ...60 min.../..Sentri....5 min.

Otay Mesa: Standard...........1 hr 20 min.../....Ready...1hr 15 MIN.../.. Sentri...10 min

[Edited on 12-29-11 by KASHEYDOG]

Wait times ........7 PM

KASHEYDOG - 12-28-2011 at 09:04 PM

San Ysidro: Standard lane... 1 HR 45 min ../.. Ready ...1hr 20 min min.../..Sentri....5 min.

Otay Mesa: Standard.................40 min....../....Ready...10 MIN....../........ Sentri.....no delay

KASHEYDOG - 1-7-2012 at 03:53 AM

BUMP FOR .......MsTerieus

KASHEYDOG - 1-7-2012 at 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by KASHEYDOG
One more little tid bit........... Even though my passport expires in 2016 the pass card came back with an expiration date of Dec. 2021 So they made it good for ten years.............Works for me......

wessongroup - 1-7-2012 at 07:19 AM

WOW, almost like talking about bicycle riding on Mex 1.... just saying

Roberto - 1-7-2012 at 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.

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That is true but they say its not acceptable in the redy lane :?:

[Edited on 12-20-2011 by J.P.]

The newer passports have a chip, and can be used in the ready lane. You can tell because the have a marker on the front cover.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_passport

My wife and I found this out last Wednesday, when we thought we got in the wrong lane at San Ysidro.

KASHEYDOG - 1-8-2012 at 12:01 PM

BORDER WAIT TIMES @ 10 AM DEC. 8th Sunday

Wait times ........10 AM

http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/

San Ysidro: Standard lane... 50 min ../.. Ready ...20 min min.../..Sentri....2 min.

Otay Mesa: Standard............20 min..../...Ready...5 min....../.... Sentri.....5 min

http://apps.cbp.gov/bwt/