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captkw - 12-24-2011 at 08:07 AM

hola,the BAJA CATCH is a good map,,but the guy, missed the mark on small boat's for baja. everyone with lot's of time on the sea of cortez,,with it's winter northerns and longer run's to find fish,, has a boat to recommed ?? :cool:

bajabass - 12-24-2011 at 08:16 AM

How small are we talking here??? When you get a north wind like we are having now, no small boat is a good idea. I'm thinking unsinkable, with a 4 stroke for economy-range. I picked the Triumph 17cc, identical to the one previously posted for sale, just added a T-top and larger bait tank. Easy on fuel, easy beach launch on reasonable firm sand, and it cannot sink!!!!

capn.sharky - 12-24-2011 at 09:21 AM

I like the 23 ft.Panga with 4 stroke Merc. Lightweight, easy to launch and good in most conditions, Very good open floor space. Mine is a center counsel with a large t top.

bajabass - 12-24-2011 at 09:33 AM

Sharky, how much would it cost to duplicate your panga? Find a good used hull, a low hour motor, rig it, a servicable trailer. Are you beach launching or using ramps?

yellowklr - 12-24-2011 at 11:36 AM

Really depends on where you are launching and what type of fishing you are doing.....

mcfez - 12-24-2011 at 11:57 AM

I loved the Baja Catch.

Hey...look at this:
http://southcamposinfo.blogspot.com/2011/11/2002-23ft-argos-...

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captkw - 12-24-2011 at 04:45 PM

ya,mecfez,, I think I read IT, 10/15 times cover to cover and used the maps for many year's and I personally recommed it, and I tryed using the beer can's,which are only for calm,protected water's at best, and not very safe or comfy..K&T :cool:

mcfez - 12-24-2011 at 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by captkw
ya,mecfez,, I think I read IT, 10/15 times cover to cover and used the maps for many year's and I personally recommed it, and I tryed using the beer can's,which are only for calm,protected water's at best, and not very safe or comfy..K&T :cool:

Yeah....I for one would never venture out a few miles as they did. No way! The tins are great for inlets and shore fishing.....being light and durable. Chasing Tuna in one....... :lol:

Good luck with with finding the lady

mcfeez

captkw - 12-24-2011 at 05:46 PM

Hola all, mcfeez, beer can's serve a great purpose,,but you don't want tuna's chasing you in one !! :lol:

K&T

bajabass - 12-24-2011 at 06:31 PM

So, what is your pick for a Baja boat KW???

captkw - 12-24-2011 at 09:23 PM

baja bass,, TALK IS CHEAP,,but when, you have a small boat that will/does really run circle's around panga's (crap)..did you sea I said panga's...designed by a friend of mine mac sheoer in la paz,,btw his wife mary should \the vote for pres

Alan - 12-24-2011 at 10:31 PM

Every boat is a compromise of one sort or the other. It really all depends on what will meet YOUR needs best. Comfort, economy, speed, safety, passenger capacity, fishability, etc. etc. Determine what is most important to you and then decide what you can still live for those items of lesser importance. For me, for Baja my top choice would be a 21-23' CC with a 4-stroke OB, but I am settling for what I have and that is a 23' walkaround.

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captkw - 12-25-2011 at 05:12 AM

merry xmas ,to all baja bass,after year's of running just about any boat ever made,,took a test ride on a small caterman and have never looked back!! well.sometime's, with a chit eating grin as I fly past a grady,boston,panga or anything else on the water, soft,dry and a big little boat,stable at rest and underway,, and please let me have some wind for the ride home,,talk is cheap and boats are not,,so if you really want to find out more,,I fix,repair,and consult about boats for an living and this brand of boat is under the radar .sorta they have made over 50k of them and I have only seen 4 or 5 rigged correctly,hell,,9 out of ten of all boat's are rigged wrong,,folk's by a boat a say,"it came from the factory like that,,gotta be right" I really laugh ,when I see the aft cleat's,installed 2/3 ft forward of the transom...boat's are like women,,,,all guy's love um..but dont really understand um... :lol:

merry xmas be safe out there...someday the fish might get a uzi

Floatflyer - 12-25-2011 at 07:24 AM

I wonder what all the tin boats in Los Barriles and the campers in Los Frailes say about going out miles to fish??? I have had a 14 ft Valco and a 15 Gregor on the East Cape and thought nothing of going out 5 miles WITH a radio and using one's brain to pick a decent day. Launching a panga over the sand by yourself could be a real work out. There is always some kind of a shore break even on glassy days. But remember there are some that wear both a belt AND suspenders, people are different! :spingrin:

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 07:56 AM

MERRY XMAS,,BE AVISED, THAT,, THIS IS HOW/WHY I DO SAR IN SNOTY SEA 'S WITH A SMALL BOAT TO RESCUE POB'S THAT Have a boat like all the other boater's,,I have been ,,never mind,,go get an boston,,or really move up in tech advance's and get a panga..I think if you have a min..ck out MOOSE BOATs.com and wacth the vid.....they are late to the ballgame.. but 3yrs ago I sent 2 clients up to them and they could not sell them a boat,,too busy with mil orders.....coast guard AUX foltilla 69-72

bajabass - 12-25-2011 at 08:12 AM

Merry Christmas KW and all!!!

Yeah, I've seen a couple catamarans, mainly the Sea Vee and Twin Vee makes. Very good in the chop as you say. They were out of my price range. Been a few on the Bloody Decks website for sale used, but still too high. I stole my Triumph for 5k. Add the bait tank and T-top, and I'm in it less than 7k total.

That is for a 2002, less than 500 hours when I bought it. Best deal on the best boat at the time. :biggrin:

wessongroup - 12-25-2011 at 08:32 AM

Say there "bass" sounds like ya might be getting some "scales" on ya...

Sounds great, glad it is working out so well for ya both ... Merry Christmas to all

Pescador - 12-25-2011 at 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by captkw
MERRY XMAS,,BE AVISED, THAT,, THIS IS HOW/WHY I DO SAR IN SNOTY SEA 'S WITH A SMALL BOAT TO RESCUE POB'S THAT Have a boat like all the other boater's,,I have been ,,never mind,,go get an boston,,or really move up in tech advance's and get a panga..I think if you have a min..ck out MOOSE BOATs.com and wacth the vid.....they are late to the ballgame.. but 3yrs ago I sent 2 clients up to them and they could not sell them a boat,,too busy with mil orders.....coast guard AUX foltilla 69-72

Did you go to school with the Skeeter?

hola,,twin vee's

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 10:15 AM

tween vee's are a great boat, and yes they are pricey,,that said..I dare ya to go drive one at 2 in the afternoon when the wind is up,,that's where they really shine !!PUNCH AND POINT, you will never look at a mono again,,why,,because you would know the simple fact that has been kept from the usa folk's...fact all new zealand and aussie's SAR vessel's are cat's and if you know anything about rough coast's they have them,,to say the least and really are the fish,criuse,camp,family,do it all vessel and love the wind,,easy to launch and pulling up to a island thecat dosenot draw much water,,so you can park it right up on the beach..I have driven panga,s and I can tell you with out a hesatation that the cat I run,,at high speed in25 knot's of wind I will/can and do run circle's around a panga and I mean that I can/will drive my little cat 360 degree's around a panga and it doe's not matter how fast it's going,,GEE ,talk is cheap;;;wanna bet on that ,,I could use a little bit more money.ha,ha..BTW the boat's that I run are catt's and I think are THe oldest caterman company in the us.barr nun,,guess again,,you getter closer...merry xmas all :bounce:

Skeet/Loreto - 12-25-2011 at 10:19 AM

Ole Skeeter spent 27 years owning and operating a 22 Ft. Panga built by Mac Shroyer of La Paz. I ended up with a 70 HP Mercury.
Many good hours of Fishing and going through some rough Seas convinced me it was the boat for me.

I had a built in Bait tank comb for a Mid Seat. It fished good with three people and the Capt.
Good Luck and remember "Experience is the best Teacher"!!!!!

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captkw - 12-25-2011 at 10:26 AM

hola, I forgot to tell ya,as that I have run boat's in costa rico,hawiia,,alaska and mexico as a captain,,the little cat's that I'm talking about are seldom up for sell,but they do ocausally hit the market,but are always rigged wrong,that's the down fall that is a sure bet!!feliz navadad!!

merry xmas skeet

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 10:44 AM

morning,,you know mary and mac ?? I swear mary would get the us gov in order in...what 3 day's or so..I have known her since I was a teen and that lady is busness,,HER son was ahead of API for awhile,dont know if anymore..merry xmas...K&T..out

skeeter

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 10:48 AM

hola ,,trying to find skeet

bajabass - 12-25-2011 at 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by Pescador

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Did you go to school with the Skeeter?

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 11:22 AM

FOOL"s are a peso a dozen

bajabass - 12-25-2011 at 11:55 AM

Just a little ribbing KW! Nice boats, though way out of my price range. No closed mind here, just cost conscious. Safe Boating!!!

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 01:58 PM

ya, cost cost a,bit more,,but they make up for it quik,,twice the range vs a mono per liter/gallon of gas...a mono even on plane is pushing the water away,,un like a cat that is riding on a cushion of air and on top of the wave's/water

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Jack Swords - 12-25-2011 at 02:23 PM

Mac and Mary Schroyer have turned most of the running of the marina to their son Neil. They are still active in the marina's functioning and can usually be found in and around the Marina de La Paz. Very nice people running a top-notch marina.

marina de la paz

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 03:10 PM

hola,very good folk's,,to say the least, and if mary ran the white house,,it would ,cleaned up and in the black..not red to the BS fed banker's in a coulpe week's,,she is a truly remkarkable lady,,bye chance did you know marta castillo...in la paz

comitan - 12-25-2011 at 03:25 PM

kw

Yes knew her for many years also a close friend of hers Pearl. Over the years built a very nice 3 story casa.

comaton

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 03:32 PM

then you must know me,,dos augua's on the radio.. I lived with marta part time in the winter's,,,moma marta,,what a gal!! miss her very much.she is in boat heaven,,,

comitan - 12-25-2011 at 03:41 PM

She gave!!!

Call Sign. Shorebird.

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captkw - 12-25-2011 at 03:45 PM

yes ,,she did,how is the club doing these day's?? not to hijack

comitan - 12-25-2011 at 03:56 PM

Ever thing goes on just different people.

bajabass - 12-25-2011 at 04:09 PM

Can you hijack your own thread??? I think it's OK. If you have a cat in La Paz, I'd love a test ride KW.

captkw - 12-25-2011 at 09:41 PM

hola skeet,,I can agree, , for sure on the experince part and it take's year's of hard knok's,to get it,,LOL that reminded me,year's back I was a captain on 120 footer with 40 POB, any way a good strom was heading down from brisol bay, so I ran south, away from it and thought I would hide between 2 island's, drop the anchor's and it HIT,,could not with all my strengh open the helm door,,now that's some wind,they call call um willaway's in alaska and parking tween two islands make's a venturi,,duh,,school of :lol:

hard knok's LOL..LOL K&T

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captkw - 12-25-2011 at 10:09 PM

hola,just saw you post,,that's a good price and it is a buyer's market,,the best buyer's market in my life !! what motor is hanging on her ???? keith &lil tasha

bajabass - 12-26-2011 at 06:30 AM

A 60hp Merc EFI 4 stroke. Great mileage and you can hear yourself think at WOT.

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captkw - 12-26-2011 at 09:24 AM

hola,,,almost too quiet,seen guy's pull the boat up the ramp with the motor running,,oops, their goes the the impeller LOLO :lol:

K&T

Skeet/Loreto - 12-26-2011 at 01:49 PM

KW
Yes I became friends with the Schoyers and some other People. Sure like La Paz.

When I ordered my boat I told Mac that many of the Panga owners around Loreto were complaining that the front Bottoms were weak, so Mac Started putting Stringers in for Support.

If you really want a Panga I would first stop in Constitution and check that area, There were many for sale several years ago. Next i would go to Loreto and look around or better conttact Alvaro Murillo or his brother Allejo. Then have your boat finished as you want.

If I was 30 years younger and still fishing I would find me a Homelight 4 Cyl. as I once had on my Panga. They are the best I had.

The next best was my last boat a 217 Wellcraft that I converted to a Diesel.

Good Luck

Skeet

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captkw - 12-26-2011 at 05:16 PM

hi,Ive known mac & mary for a long time GREAT folk's,,but I dont care for the panga's,, heavy,wet,and and pound in the snot... I like a soft ride in rough sea's,,that's why I moved up to smaller size caterman's ,,but,thank's for the advice Keith & lil tasha :cool:

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captkw - 12-26-2011 at 08:47 PM

hola,mac was working on a old mg/triump

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captkw - 12-28-2011 at 08:05 PM

:bounce:

comitan - 12-28-2011 at 08:07 PM

captkw

I'm with you on Pangas!!!! :bounce:

panga --smangga

captkw - 12-28-2011 at 08:49 PM

HOLa,I wont waste my post on ponga's ,,bounce,bounce,,,,but I knew pearl..lil firecacker redhead,,just down the road from MARTA..and in the BOTTOM of her house was this strange/wierd septic/pool..hole in the ground,,with water,,,and I would not want to put my hand in there !! K&T

durrelllrobert - 12-29-2011 at 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by mcfez
I loved the Baja Catch.

Hey...look at this:
http://southcamposinfo.blogspot.com/2011/11/2002-23ft-argos-...

here's a beach launchable for sale in Punta Banda:

18' Fiberglass Center Console Boat For Sale

We have an 18' Fiberglass Boat w/large center console for sale. Console has ample dry storage. Well equipped with: fish finder, rod holders, three trolling stations, power trim, dual batteries w/Perko switch, built in live bait well, salt water wash down, two fish lockers, Todd leaning post, mounted filet table, bow pulpit w/anchor, drop down ladder & swim step and trolling motor bracket. 90 hp Mercury engine with splash well. Comes with trailer in good condition. New tortion bar axle, with new waterproof bearings, tires and fenders. 12 volt electric winch and drop down rolling spare tire. $4,000.00. 646-152-00-08 or 760-481-7669.