BajaNomad

Remember the old 500?

baitcast - 1-20-2012 at 09:21 AM

Jigmaster that is,many or most bought this reel as thier first reel to get after those big fish:lol:

Bet many of you still have one or more of these reels today,I only have one today but in the past I never had less than two,bought my first in 1960 for 13.50$:lol:Penn started building the reel in 59 so mine was one of the first on the market.

It came with two plastic spools and a quick take apart feature,4=1 gear ratio,what will they think of next:lol:

With a little practice you could throw a anchovy or sardine far enough to get the job done,I then discovered jig fishing and never looked back,there was a problem with the early models:lol: they would blow up in your hands, the side plates would fly off,the spool would implode and hundreds of yds of line would form this monster that would get bigger and bigger:o

If the line didn,t break by then you could bet it would any second,it was always good for a laugh from your buddies,this went on for a while then penn got a metal spool which was a little better it just took longer for the explosion to take place.

The big spinners way back were trash the so the 500,s had little competion,people are still catching alot of fish with their 500,s today and they only cost 60$.

Any body have a story about their 500?
Rob

woody with a view - 1-20-2012 at 09:29 AM

funny you should ask.

a couple of years ago Bia, Paul and I were fishing with Juan and Juan Carlos up north of Asuncion. we were doing real well on the 15-20 pound YFT and decided to go drop iron for some yellowtail. on one of my drops a 35 pound YFT grabbed the sinking iron and took of. i snapped that Jigmaster into gear and BOOM, just like you said, except mine locked up and the fish almost pulled the rod from my grasp. the line never snapped and after a minute of confusion Juan Carlos handlined that fish straight to the gaff. an EPIC performance!!!

i still have that reel sitting on a shelf somewhere.....

Barry A. - 1-20-2012 at 10:16 AM

I still have a couple of them------mainly because I never knew that they "blow up". :lol:

I must admit that I have not used them in years, tho.

Barry

torch - 1-20-2012 at 10:47 AM

Yep that was my 1st salt water reel. I bought it 30 yrs ago on special at big 5. I still loan it to friends once in a while with the last time catching a 60lb dorado.

willardguy - 1-20-2012 at 11:01 AM

im gonna buy one. soon as my long beach wears out.

baitcast - 1-20-2012 at 11:18 AM

I had three Long Bch reels a 60,67and a 68,I think they have been around longer than the 500.

I forgot the drags in the early models real laughers had to change them often.

Made a trip to Guadalupe is 63 seemed like everyone had a 500 several did not make it home.

I think we need to get back to the basics,we have taken some of the hunt out of it,GPS,sonar,braided line,two speed reels,but toys are fun:lol:

Remember TxLxP=S

Timing X Location X Presentation = Sucess

baitcast - 1-20-2012 at 01:10 PM

I remember my first look at a transmission on a boat out of Long Bch,I was watching this guy jig fishing and the speed the jig was going,I asked him " how could a fish ever catch that thing" he said no problem,kept me eye on him and sure enough he,s hooked up minutes later,big long handle don,t remember the reel.

They were very popular for a time I couldn't afford one,was able to do pretty good with the straight 500.
Rob

baitcast - 1-20-2012 at 01:20 PM

They made transmissions for other reels also if I remember right,saw one on a Long BCH 68 and a couple of Squidders,a long time ago:rolleyes:
Rob

Skipjack Joe - 1-20-2012 at 04:22 PM

I suppose I never loved any reel as much as the 500. It was one of the first things I ever bought with money I had earned. I used it at the piers, at the barge, on the party boats. It went everywhere.

If you knew what you were doing it was really easy to maintain. I guess it's a reel that defines a generation of so cal fishermen.

Anyway, I bought the external transmission for the reel and didn't like it. The reel lost all it's beautiful balance and harmony. It felt like a wench in my hands. It just wasn't fun any longer.

rts551 - 1-20-2012 at 04:46 PM

still have 2 of the 500'sand 2 surfmasters (Whistler), a newel, and others left over from my folks from years ago.

Alan - 1-20-2012 at 05:02 PM

Still have a couple of them and even use them on ocassion. They have both been upgraded with Tiburon frames, accurate side plates and handles. Here is one that my son's friend used to catch this sail on our last trip to Loreto. I asked him to use a little larger reel when the sailfish were around. If he had listened we would have had a double that morning. I had spotted a second sail and was moving the boat slowly into casting range for my son. Just before my son could let his mackeral fly this one took off and I had to chase it down.

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baitcast - 1-20-2012 at 05:06 PM

Another reel I liked back then was the 501 same but smaller,loved using it for albacore,another was a old black 6/0 again the drag needed help often,started getting fancy about then and got a couple red 4/0,s,I traded a small generator for the 6/0:lol:.

About that time I started making up my own blanks,Truline and Fenwick were favorites,and rods you guys probably never seen ,long Calcutta cane rods 10' or longer,guys used these for Bat ray and shark fishing,miss all that stuff,I,m down from all that to catching planters in shallow lakes:rolleyes:
Rob

Skipjack Joe - 1-20-2012 at 06:11 PM

The rod I felt most attached to was a "Quick Reflexe Rod". It's still there somewhere in the garage. I caught so many fish with that thing. The early 60's party boat trips at Ensenada. Fly lining live squid at Pt Banda was really great for big calicos on that rod.

Oh well, we're all more sophisticated now. But you can't bring back the exhiliration of youth.

woody with a view - 1-20-2012 at 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Oh well, we're all more sophisticated now. But you can't bring back the exhiliration of youth.


statement of the year, so far!

Santiago - 1-20-2012 at 08:41 PM

I grew up fishing the 500s in Morro Bay (Cayucas). I must have a dozen or so, and like others, some are tricked out with frames and side plates. A few years ago I picked up this 3/0 Penn 112H Senator. I've not broken this reel down but I'm guessing it's got the same size drags as the 500? I passed up buying a 2/0 Senator and now wish I had.
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woody with a view - 1-20-2012 at 09:00 PM

the old 500 in action... note the puple rapala that YFT almost completely INHALED!!!!:light:

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woody with a view - 1-20-2012 at 09:02 PM

the biggie that killed the 500. note the abundance of line from Juan Carlos handlining that brute from the depths.

i sure hope the tuna return this summer. very good times and better eating.....

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Skipjack Joe - 1-20-2012 at 10:24 PM

Glenn,

My dad wouldn't fish salt any other way than a handline. Sometimes those bonito would cut his hands real bad. That 20lb line was too thin for handlining bonito.

He told me that before monofilament appeared they would tie strands of horsehair end to end. I've never heard that from anyone else. Although it's my understanding that cat gut was used as leader material by flyfishermen in this country before mono appeared.

A lot of guys have fond memories about the ritual of fishing. Getting up at 4:30 and setting up before the sun appeared. I don't do that any more and didn't raise my kid that way. But I liked it. It added mystery to the day's enterprise.

baitcast - 1-21-2012 at 06:26 AM

Igor cat gut was the hot set up in the sweet water when I was a kid,yes we used it for leader material,dry it was hard and had alot of memory soft it just laid there,had to be careful with your knots,never forget the old man and his trolling outfit:lol:big old narrow reel of some kind full of white cuttyhunk line probably 100# test and catgut leader trolling for rainbows or the same rig with steel monel line trolling for Mackinaw as they were called then but Lake Trout today.

I used hand lines as a kid through the ice,funny thing they had laws that said its ok to catch white fish but you can,t catch rainbows through the ice? like you could pick and chose?

The next best thing to catchin is talking fishing and the old days.
Rob

woody with a view - 1-21-2012 at 09:46 AM

ahh, the "old" days. i refer to them days as "the last good outing!"

:lol::no::P:light::wow:

a little slow in here

baitcast - 8-30-2018 at 04:31 PM

Had fun with this one why not again.
Rob

DaliDali - 8-30-2018 at 04:58 PM

Smaller test mono had a nasty habit of getting between the side plates on a 500. Anything less than 40 would always punk me.

And that dang quick side plate release knob.

More than once....the side plate would just come loose and fall off.

Upgraded to a Squidder with ball bearings...much smoother and cast better......but at 3.xx to 1 retrieve, it was a bunch of cranking for not much line gain. Too slow for iron.

The narrow Squidder was my reel of choice for near shore live bait angling adventures off San Diego.

chuckie - 8-31-2018 at 05:04 AM

BOY!!!! You guys nailed this one! What a great thread! Thanks with big grin on my face. I bought my first rig from a lil shop in Long Island NY. Bamboo Stubby with some kind of knuckle buster on it, 1953 I think..Wish I could do it all over...

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DaliDali - 8-31-2018 at 07:22 AM

And harken back to the old days.......

A 500 was heralded as trail blazing FAST retrieve at 4.1.

Supplanted now with some at 7.1, AND actually two speeds at the push of a button......

Damn we're old.

Pacifico - 8-31-2018 at 08:24 AM

The first reel my dad gave me was his old Penn 505 high speed. I didn't really know what I was doing back then, but caught a ton of yellowtail on that reel. Still have it in my collection somewhere...

Skipjack Joe - 8-31-2018 at 09:06 AM

This was it's weak point in my opinion. Once these teeth developed nicks the gear would seize and the reel would freeze, or just skip. Either way it was useless. I carried a spare in my tackle box.

If you let a large fish run in free spool (as you're supposed to do) and then through it into gear while the fish is going full bore, then you can damage that pinion. The old ones looked like they were made of brass or something.

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willardguy - 8-31-2018 at 09:45 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Skipjack Joe  
This was it's weak point in my opinion. Once these teeth developed nicks the gear would seize and the reel would freeze, or just skip. Either way it was useless. I carried a spare in my tackle box.


yup, pinion gear was even weaker on the 505's. I still have two tiburon framed jigmasters that have far outlived everything else, well except for the Newell's

DaliDali - 8-31-2018 at 10:54 AM

In all fairness to the once vaunted 500, they were not designed to battle the big brutes. For those it was up to the "ought" class.

More of a medium duty reel for the times, and with the high speed model a revolution in iron chucking.

Sure, they have and still land a brute from time to time, with the common use of 40 lb line...most of us can attest to that.

Now the trend is to a smaller and smaller reel, with powerful drags and Spectra....even to target those infrequent brutes.



Sparetimewanted - 9-27-2018 at 09:13 PM

Great thread. I got my first 500 with my Mom's green chip stamps! Circa 1969. Bought a second one for 10.95. Still use them. I joke with the tackle store guys that overtime I get new line, the line costs more than I paid for the reels.

I kayak fish a lot and I don't want a $400 reel out there and through the surf. Just change the drag washers every year and they are awesome.

Caught my first marlin from the back of a sailboat on a 500 with 30# test. Love those reels! 501 was great, 140 not so much due to the retrieve ratio.