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Anonymous - 9-27-2004 at 06:53 AM

Does anyone have a phone contact for the guy at Baja-Almanac.Com? I sent him a money order for 4 maps (3 weeks ago) and haven't gotten anything. No replies to my emails either. I'm getting anxious as our group trip to Baja starts this Saturday. Thanks for any help you can give. Bob:o

Landon Crumton

David K - 9-27-2004 at 07:13 AM

is the man's name, and you could see if he's listed in Las Vegas. I did hear he was in Baja researching the next edition, but don't know if he's still gone. You could ask his dealers for contact assistance: Discover Baja Travel Club and Map Centre, in San Diego or The Map Store in San Marcos.

Kim sells the folding maps and Almanac in El Rosario (on the right on the way out of town, see map signs at her store), then get a refund from Landon...

I have not met him, and don't have any better contact details, sorry!

[Edited on 9-27-2004 by David K]

I hope he does a better job

jrbaja - 9-27-2004 at 12:55 PM

"researching" the new one than he did on the last one !!:light:

He was in baja in June researching his

bajapablo - 9-27-2004 at 01:20 PM

next map. Nice guy, has some great stories and experiences about baja, and his maps seem to be some of the best around. I think you buy from the publisher not from him directly. From the the looks of his notes and vehicle, He seems to research pretty thoroughly.

JR did you find some discrepencies?

Pablo

jrbaja - 9-27-2004 at 02:30 PM

Si Se?or. It was a topic of conversation a while back but I don't remember the title.
I have seen a bunch of places where the almanac either shows roads where there aren't any and have never been, or not showing roads of importance that have been there for a quite some time.
I can think of 3 specific unrelated areas where these mistakes have been made and there are others who know of more.
The good news is, it probably won't matter to the majority of people using these maps unless you are interested in Confluence Points and other such nonsense. hahahahahaha What do you think Herb ?
I use it myself and combined with my 1986 Topography International Map Book, I usually find my way.:biggrin:

Baja Almanac...Good & Bad

Herb - 9-27-2004 at 03:12 PM

Yes, I can definitely attest to the discrepencies between this map and reality, but you've got to be REALLY out there in the boonies to find'em. With that said, it is still the best (current) map of Baja available. The best online selection of BackCountry maps for Baja California, Alta California and the US southwest that I've found is at:

http://www.totalescape.com/tripez/camp/maps.html

I just picked up the folding "big picture" version of the Baja Almanac map there. Right now, though, the guy who publishes it does seem to be having serious supply problems, and it is very difficult to find them anywhere.
Quote:
Originally posted by jrbaja
I have seen a bunch of places where the almanac either shows roads where there aren't any and have never been, or not showing roads of importance that have been there for a quite some time.
I can think of 3 specific unrelated areas where these mistakes have been made and there are others who know of more.
The good news is, it probably won't matter to the majority of people using these maps unless you are interested in Confluence Points and other such nonsense. hahahahahaha What do you think Herb ?

bajalou - 9-27-2004 at 03:14 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with you Jr. But the many times the roads aren't quite where they should be really won't bother most travelers down here. I believe it is the best maps available. I'm about ready to buy another copy as my last one is about worn our from using it. Most people won't know of any errors.

:biggrin:

I agree

jrbaja - 9-27-2004 at 03:28 PM

and, if you duct tape it just right, you'll get a whole bunch more miles out of it :lol:

Neal Johns - 9-27-2004 at 03:34 PM

Boy, you got that right JR, my old "big" one has more duct tape that paper! I wish he would publish it in that format again.

I just ordered one...

Ken Bondy - 9-27-2004 at 04:23 PM

...from Amazon. Hasn't arrived yet, but Amazon sez it's on the way! They charged about $5 more than ordering directly from the guy in Vegas, but I needed it in a hurry.

++Ken++

bajalou - 9-27-2004 at 04:27 PM

They are available here in San Felipe at the bookstore - San Felipe Title Co. next to Baja Java - 2nd floor on Chetemal between Mar De Cortex and the Malecon - at the publisher's suggested price.

The cartographers for Baja Almanac

David K - 9-27-2004 at 04:59 PM

are Mexicans, JR... Landon takes existing Mexican Government Topo maps and then adds details to them, and puts them into book form for ease of use.

When this edition of the Almanac (with color topography) came out last year, I posted the several errors I spotted that were also in the earliar editions. I also emailed Landon the list, but I have never gotten a reply back.

As far as I have seen, Landon does not change road locations, but he does add milages on major roads and additions to place names. For instance, next to Rancho Santa Ynez (Ines) you will see 'Casa Patchen' refering to Marvin Patchen's little cabin that is the base for his new book 'Baja Outpost'. Coco's Corner is in the Almanac, but probabaly not on the official Mexican topo... etc.

Mistakes or old data used by Mexican cartographers and are also on the Almanac maps include:

Switching the names: Bahia San Luis Gonzaga and Ensenada de San Francisquito; Arroyo El Volcan and Arroyo Zamora

Mislocating roads: Hwy. 1 between San Agustin and San Roque (near Catavina); the road north of Hwy. 1 to San Juan de Dios; The Valle Chico road, north of Matomi; the Punta San Francisquito road south of Las Flores;

Showing auto roads that don't exist: between San Francisco de la Sierra and Santa Marta (it is just a mule trail)...

There are others, but that is a sampling.

Like the others say, this map book has far more detail and shows more roads and trails than any other... the mistakes are tolerable for the most part...

I think the next generation of maps Mexico is producing will have '3-D like' topography shading.



[Edited on 9-28-2004 by David K]

Almanac

thebajarunner - 9-27-2004 at 05:02 PM

Bought mine in the Museo at LABay.
$25 U.S., no tax, great deal!

Baja Arriba!!

Seems to me like

jrbaja - 9-27-2004 at 07:03 PM

with all that mericun teknology yall are so proud about, they would have known better than to trust the Mexican cartographers, no?
On the other hand, they as gringos could just say, "it's not my fault":lol:
Fact is though, apparently they weren't quite so fat and lazy in 1986 as they are now because the Topo book I have from then is more accurate than the copied or "researched" versions.
Maybe it's just me but knowing there are other people like me out there, I would do some serious research before publishing something.
That's why they are making money and I am not I reckon!:light:

David K - 9-27-2004 at 07:50 PM

That big Topo book (I have two) has the very same mistakes as the Almanac... Because it is from the same source (Mexican Government Maps)! It is more detailed, yes... But not very easy to use 'in field'. I love it, and I have my original 1986 edition almost falling apart with field notes in it... and a 'like new' super condition 1991 edition I found at the used book store for $4, which I keep untouched...

My favorite maps after the Almanac and Atlas are Gulick's Lower California Guidebook maps... Superbly drawn and the most accurate hand made maps of Baja. They are over 40 years old, however... Wait, so am I!!!:lol::O:o

Perhaps the same mistakes were made

jrbaja - 9-27-2004 at 08:02 PM

in the Bahia de los Angeles area and the "wilds" of Baja Norte but not when it comes to the truly remote mountain and coastal areas of the rest of Baja. Thank goodness !

David K - 9-27-2004 at 08:21 PM

So there really is an auto road into Rancho and Mision Los Dolores??? Well, the older '91 map doesn't show it ... but the newer one does, and it just ain't so.

Like I said... even with mistakes on every page, it still is the best road maps of Baja!

Now, what confluence have you not been to, yet???

If I were you, David...

Herb - 9-27-2004 at 08:23 PM

I wouldn't be so quick to defend a guy who isn't even polite enough to respond to your feedback on the errors in his book. In fact, I think it speaks volumes about the man and why his book continues to have those inaccuracies. He can't blame it all on the Mexicans. His maps do differ from theirs. In fact I have seen sections of his book that are more accurate than the Mexican government maps and vice versa.

When any business person gets that c-cky and thinks he "knows it all" and doesn't have to listen to feedback, that business person usually ends up broke, or out of business at the very least... It's a very short fall from "best" to "used to be."

David K - 9-27-2004 at 08:45 PM

I understand Herb... I wasn't trying to defend Landon... As you say, his business practices are quite poor (accepting money on a web site, and having nobody there to fill orders, not accepting offers to correct the errors, etc.). I would love to have the freedom to map all of backcountry Baja myself... like a Lower California Guidebook for the new century! I would use satellite images or simular and overlay the road locations onto them (remember Tom Miller's Baja Book?) then overlay a very light GPS grid or provide a clear plastic grid page that could be placed over each map for those using GPS to quickly find their location.

Actually, this exchange above was more of a friendly debate between JR who thinks or just talks like everything American is bad/ everything Mexican is good... and me who thinks there is good and bad on BOTH sides of the border.

I like the Mexican topos, Landon's maps, Gulick's maps, and even (the newest) AAA maps... all for certain and various reasons.

[Edited on 9-28-2004 by David K]

BajaNomad - 9-27-2004 at 09:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anonymous
Does anyone have a phone contact for the guy at Baja-Almanac.Com?


Domain name: baja-almanac.com

Registrant Contact:
Baja Almanac Publishers Inc.
Landon Crumpton
+1.7024590555
5130 East Charleston St. #5
Las Vegas, CA 89102

BajaNomad - 9-27-2004 at 09:16 PM

Actually, that's the address and phone number of the A-ok mail center:

http://www.google.com/search?q=7024590555

I know they take messages for him... but he's not quick about responses.

I don't think so !

jrbaja - 9-27-2004 at 09:44 PM

Actually, this exchange above was more of a friendly debate between JR who thinks or just talks like everything American is bad/ everything Mexican is good... and me who thinks there is good and bad on BOTH sides of the border.

David, if you still haven't caught on, everyone is the same on both sides of this border or any other borders. As long as they are open minded and willing to litsten to ALL others ideas before forming (or getting caught up in!) ones own ideas.

Unless of course, they are just trying to make a buck as soon as they possibly can.

I won't name any names or aliases but I really wonder what these gringo "speed publications" are doing for the Mexican communities who are obviously not helping them. I wonder why ?
Otherwise, they would have real information and accurate maps, No? :lol:

David K - 9-27-2004 at 11:26 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jrbaja

David, if you still haven't caught on, everyone is the same on both sides of this border or any other borders. As long as they are open minded and willing to litsten to ALL others ideas before forming (or getting caught up in!) ones own ideas.

Unless of course, they are just trying to make a buck as soon as they possibly can.

I won't name any names or aliases but I really wonder what these gringo "speed publications" are doing for the Mexican communities who are obviously not helping them. I wonder why ?
Otherwise, they would have real information and accurate maps, No? :lol:


Sure JR...

I am wondering, what are "gringo speed publications"??

a) Maps by the auto club which come out every 1-3 years are compiled from years of research. I have emailed with one of the Auto Clubs Baja mappers, and he was very appreciative of my findings and discussed why they indicated roads a certain way (for legal reasons)... Anyway, they are now using GPS, so you will see better acuracy in their maps.

b) Baja Almanac is certainly no speed demon at making new editions...

Both of the above are good for the back country comunities... Having them on maps will bring travelers there.

What I find disturbing are the Mexican made road and tour maps, like the one you use that has WRONG dates for the missions on them. Remember when you wanted to put Mision San Luis Gonzaga's founding date on the baseball uniforms?
I look at those maps being sold in curio shops and cringe when I see roads that don't exist, and mis-named towns. Guia Roja is bad as well...

Now, for north of the border made maps of Baja... Rand McNally is terrible, National Geographic not much better, gasoline company road maps of Baja and Mexico are very poor...
As for relying on the local people for historical facts, that has its limits...

Probably loses acuracy after 2 generations (once grandpa dies).

I had quite a debate with Dr. Robert Jackson (academicanarchist) about the so called Mision Dolores del Norte.

I was like you, on the side of the local people... at San Francisco de la Sierra (you know, the Arces)... They told Choral Pepper (40 years ago) that the walls up there were the remains of Mision Dolores and her research for her book seemed to confirm that. There are baptismal and other records for Dolores.

The families up there were decendants of soldiers who stayed in Baja after the mission system no longer needed them. Choral believed that they were soldiers guarding Dolores del Norte. (Harry Crosby's research showed otherwise)

Robert was stead fast that no mission called Dolores del Norte ever existed (even though it has been on many maps over the years, between El Arco and San Ignacio).

Well, we both were right... Robert did discover that the next mission to be established beyond San Ignacio was given the name Dolores del Norte and early records for the Indians that would be assigned to it were kept seperate from the San Ignacio records.

There even was a mission visita/estancia at San Francisco. That MIGHT have been an early consideration for a mission. Perhaps that is how the name Dolores was applied to the old walls by the locals in 1964?

However, there is only water in tinajas up there so population was limited...

When funding arrived from Europe, a site further north was chosen and the name was changed to Santa Gertrudis to honor the rquest of the benefactor, as was customary.

What I am getting at is the local village people may have an idea or have been told a story from older folks, but they probably do not have access to the libraries of Europe or even documents here that has confirmed historic data. Most of the Spanish and Mexican settlers arrived in Baja AFTER most of the missions were abandoned by the Spanish government or Dominicans.

Of course nobody is alive today who witnessed the missions in operation. That leaves many possiblites as to other details besides the founding dates... You know, like the lost or forgotten mission projects I find interesting!

http://community-2.webtv.net/baja4me/1757

and the known mission sites:

http://vivabaja.com/bajamissions

The locals people are a wealth of knowledge on the territory they live in, for sure. Having their village on a map will let others know it is there. People like you will report how interesting it is... bringing others... bringing business $$$.

mcgyver - 9-28-2004 at 07:22 AM

OK, To add to your dicussion, Langdon disapeared for 18 months before he published this last edition. I called his home in Las Vegas twice and talked to his wife and she didin't even know where he was or when he would be back! Quote from her " Langdon is real bad about returning calls and calling home, I talked to him about 6 months ago , he was in Baja
! End quote!!!She gave me his publishers phone # and I called him and he said almost the idenical words! I personaly don't belive he exists, has anyone ever talked to him in person?
Anyway I was desparately offering $50 for a copy of the old one, whem Neal Johns who did not even know me sent me a brand new copy for christmas , priority mail and it came as I was driving out of the drive for my Baja trip. The new addition came out 5 months later,hsIf all maps and surveys were 100% acurate we would no longer need surveyors, not that they are accutate either!

Landon bought my friends and I cokes

bajapablo - 9-28-2004 at 07:38 AM

at mama espinoza's one night in June of this year. We were seated at a table next to him and started up conversation. He said he was currently working on his next edition and showed us his baja-almanac that had all of his notes. We ate watermelon, drank soda, watched the Lakers get beat by the Pistons, and listened to stories of his travels. We asked him questions that we had and the whole time he was very friendly and cordial. I thought he was a cool guy and my first impression of him was good. I don't know about his business practices but in our meeting him, he was very personable.

Another comment

Jack Swords - 9-28-2004 at 07:42 AM

I wish humans could be more exact, but they are not. Sailing charts produced by governments are never accurate. A reef can be a mile or two off from its chart. GPS use has really shown how bad charts are for boaters. We use the Mexican Topos and the almanacs and usually have to ask three different locals to find what we are looking for. But, we have met some wonderful people and ended up with a far richer experience by needing that contact. Many times these accidental contacts are more rewarding that our original objective. Sure improves the Spanish and sharing of cultures. Actually, it is that experience that I look forward to, walking up to a rancho and being immediately an "amigo". Never have we been treated badly.

That big old almanac can be hardbound at a printer to avoid the duct tape binding.

Jack gets it...

Herb - 9-28-2004 at 08:51 AM

And that is why I personally hope that they never come out with one that is 100% accurate! :spingrin:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jack Swords
But, we have met some wonderful people and ended up with a far richer experience by needing that contact. Many times these accidental contacts are more rewarding that our original objective. Sure improves the Spanish and sharing of cultures. Actually, it is that experience that I look forward to, walking up to a rancho and being immediately an "amigo". Never have we been treated badly.

By the way....

Herb - 9-28-2004 at 09:17 AM

My biggest knock on the guy is not the map itself. I'll almost certainly by his next edition when it comes out. I guess the real point that I would make to people is that he is notorious for taking money and not shipping product (and I don't believe it is any type of criminal or fraudulent intent, just not very organized). I would reccomend that anyone buy it, but as the first post in this thread would suggest, I would buy it from ANYWHERE else but from baja-almanac.com.

Baja-Almanac.com

Anonymous - 9-28-2004 at 10:51 AM

Thanks for all of your input, I guess I'm out of $25 and 4 maps. I appreciate the people who posted alternative places to get the maps. You guys are great and hope to see some BajaNomads when I'm down there this Saturday. I'm leading (?) a ride from Santo Tomas to Mikes to SF to Gonzaga to El Rosario back to Santo Tomas. We are itching to go but I wanted to get the foldout map for conveniece sake. Thanks again, Bob:saint:

Mercado del Mar

jrbaja - 9-28-2004 at 11:15 AM

south of Rosarito as well as many of the other stores in town sell some pretty good maps. Probably Ensenada too.:light:

Anonymous Bob...

David K - 9-28-2004 at 05:14 PM

Get the AAA folding Baja map if that's what you are using it for. Landon's folding map is very thin paper, and has more details than you can use... They are better suited to make a wall map out of... very colorful like Arnold Senterfitt's wall maps.

The AAA map is available all over... including an AAA ofice, if you or one of your riders is a member. On the Internet, they are available at mapworld.com, discoverbaja.com (even to non-members), at office depots even...

They are heavier paper and roads illustrated clearly with milages on every road...

What we are talking about above is the Baja Almanac map book by Landon, and not his folding map.

Have a fun ride!!!

Anonymous - 10-1-2004 at 11:42 AM

David,
I do have the BajaAlmanac but as I'm traveling by m/c I wanted to get the folding map BajaAlmanac. I do have a copy of the AAA Map already, but it doesn't have all of the trails that the Baja Almanac shows. Thanks for your help

Try one of the

jrbaja - 10-1-2004 at 11:53 AM

Mexican maps sold in stores down here. You might be surprised at how much they know about their country.:lol:

David K - 10-1-2004 at 04:51 PM

Yah, but don't believe what's on them! Specially mission dates... right JR?:lol::lol::lol:

Bob, take the AAA map and ADD any trails shown in the Almanac with a pen! A few might even really be there!

If you want some m/c rides in Baja (San Ignacio to the U.S.) then get Kacey's book: http://www.bajagpsguide.com It is well worth the $99!

Anonymous - 10-1-2004 at 05:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K[/i

If you want some m/c rides in Baja (San Ignacio to the U.S.) then get Kacey's book: http://www.bajagpsguide.com It is well worth the $99!


I bought that book! It's awesome!!

David K - 10-1-2004 at 05:59 PM

Yes it is awesome!
It may be too late, but here is another Internet source for the Baja Almanac and the folding map (a new web site that will be added to my links page): http://www.bajabooksandmaps.com/

click on 'maps'...

AAA Maps of Baja

Cameron - 10-12-2004 at 06:01 AM

As far as accuracy goes, the AAA maps are the best! As mentioned in prior posts, they do lack some fine details where other maps include them, but anything shown is there for sure.
I had an opportunity to talk with a AAA cartographer who was out doing seasonal (!) updates to their survey data. This was in October of 2002, and he was driving a Jeep Cherokee with a large (GPS?) antenna array on top, and a hard-mounted laptop taking up the front passenger seat.
He told me that the AAA surveyed all paved roads in Baja every year, and tried to do all major secondary/gravel roads every 2 years as conditions allowed. I don't know if that's still policy, but at the time I met him, he showed me the older versions of their maps, and some of the notations he'd been plugging into his laptop, and I was very impressed!
It appeared he'd been doing way more than driving along while his GPS ticked off waypoints. I saw detailed notes about conversations held with locals about recent changes to some of the areas I was familiar with, and the detail was surprising to say the least!
If half of that stuff made it into the next edition, it would be well worth the $$$ to join up and get one of the AAA maps... Just my opinion, thanks for reading!

Good point David

jrbaja - 10-12-2004 at 11:09 AM

Who would know more about Baja Missions than you ?:lol:

David K - 10-12-2004 at 04:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by jrbaja
Who would know more about Baja Missions than you ?:lol:


A whole lot of people JR.
On this web site: academic anarchist, Jack Swords, Kevin in Oklahoma for starters.

Please do not ever confuse my love and my passion for Baja for any form of bragging or posturing.

I never called myself an expert at Baja mission history, just a fond student. I even corrected Mexico Ted on the radio show when he said I have been everywhere in Baja... It would take more than one lifetime to do that... So much Baja, so little time! But, it is fun trying.

I have personally been on the mission and visita grounds at these sites (north to south): Guadalupe del Norte,

San Miguel de la Frontera,

San Vicente,

El Rosario de Arriba,

El Rosario de Abajo,

San Juan de Dios,

San Fernando,

Santa Maria,

Calamajue,

San Borja (and it's vista at San Ignacito),

Santa Gertrudis,

San Ignacio,

Santa Rosalia de Mulege,

San Juan Bautista Londo,

Loreto,

San Javier, and

San Juan Bautista de Ligui y Malibat...

Plus the historic water sources at Agua Dulce, Tinaja de Yubay, and Tinaja de Santa Maria on the Gulfo Camino.

That means I can relate first hand information on what's there. But, I still don't think that makes me an expert...

Thanks anyway!


[Edited on 12-4-2004 by David K]

bajalera - 10-19-2004 at 07:06 PM

To get back to maps, I can put up with a stray road here and there--or the lack of one--but not with the willy-nilly revision of place names. If someone wants to name a resort Scorpion Bay, fine--but the bay it's on is San Juanico.

Bahia de Los Muertos doesn't have much in the way of appeal, so it's been relabled Puerto de Las Suenas. And the Ensenada de Los Aripes--a native name dating from Salvatierra's day, which certainly ought to be preserved--is Ensenada de La Paz even on maps accompanying scholarly research published by the Universidad Autonoma de Baja California Sur. That's a crime!

bajalera

David K - 10-19-2004 at 10:32 PM

Lera, next time you lose your personal Internet connection, please go to Tucker's or an Internet cafe and let us know you are alive and well! If you did, I am sorry I missed it. Glad you are back!:light:

bajalera - 10-20-2004 at 09:33 AM

No, DK, I didn't check in--with so many people posting on the Nomad board, it never occurred to me my absence would be noticed. Thanks for the welcome!

Anonymous - 12-3-2004 at 05:08 PM

I have news to report about my missing almanacs that I think you should know about. If you recall, I posted the original inquiry as to the contact information for Baja-Almanac.Com. We didn't receive the maps in time for our trip. Our trip was a success however because we did bring the full-size Baja Almanac along with us. Well, I called the publisher yesterday and spoke with the distributor, a really nice lady and asked again for a refund. She said she would forward my request to Landon C. Well, after waiting so long it is was the only thing I could do and wait more. This afternoon I received an overnight package. I opened it up and lo and behold, the 4 maps I ordered and a Baja Almanac to boot. A letter of apology for the mishandling of my order was also included (he ran out of stock and put my order aside along with the note that I called). He also inquired about how our trip was and said that he would be working to improve the fulfillment quotient on his part. I WAS STUNNED TO NOTE THAT HE ALSO SENT ME A FULL REFUND (MY ORIGINAL M.O)! Is this a guy I'd want to do business with again? YOU BET! It's hard to find integrity and commitment but I, for one, am a very satisfied customer. Patronize retailers like him, they are a dying breed. Thanks for an ear, Bob:lol: I also stand humbled (I wasn't rude on the phone) but I probably wasn't overly joyous while speaking to his very nice distribution manager. Thanks again Landon!:yes:

Anonymous - 12-3-2004 at 05:18 PM

David,
I did get the bajagpsguide from Kacey. It really is great and we used a lot of the waypoints for our trip down to Baja. I'm looking forward to bajagpsguide#2
Check out some of the pics from our trip here:
http://photos.yahoo.com/bshims@sbcglobal.net

Thanks again for a great website

David K - 12-3-2004 at 06:35 PM

Hi Bob, thanks so much for telling us about Landon coming through! That is good news and good PR on his part.

I love your photos! So, Corky was along? I met him at Alfonsina's last year... very nice guy! The road up to Mike's looks like a super highway! Was the water in Calamajue Canyon deep?

Thanks again!

The only thing I want to say that is wrong, is your album showing pages from Kacey's book. That is a big no-no... She has worked her behind off on that book (and the next one coming soon) and deserves to get an income from its sales. If someone can copy the pages for free, she is being robbed. Please consider removing them and honoring her copyright.

Here is Kacey Smith (and Carlos Fiesta) at my Viva Baja party in Oct. 2000. Kacey came all the way from Colorado to join us!

Anonymous - 12-3-2004 at 09:36 PM

Ouch, my mistake regarding the scans. I had a couple of albums with the wrong permissions on them. Thanks for noticing, it wasn't my intent to defraud the bajagpsguide. Should be fixed now. bob

David K - 12-3-2004 at 10:33 PM

I am sure you didn't, Bob... I bet Kacey appreciate's it, however.

Please consider registering so you can participate on the other Baja boards, here at Nomad!

Adios!

David K - 1-27-2005 at 10:49 PM

Bringing up this thread from a while back because of the current discussion...:)

wilderone - 1-28-2005 at 10:54 AM

FYI, passing through El Rosario a couple months ago, I saw a sign advertising Baja Almanacs near some small restaurant (past the turn). I don't know if they really have them for sale there - someone should check that out and let us know.
Also, my dos centavos on map errors: it's the errors on the roads in the boonies that are the most important. I mean, do you really need a map to show you Hwy. 1? I totally wasted 3 hours trying to find a road I wanted one time, following the mistaken mapped road to the OTHER SIDE of an arroyo, then searching in vain, second-guessing, going further, backtracking, etc., and finally, figured out the map was just plain wrong. Put our whole trip out of sync.

David K - 1-28-2005 at 05:50 PM

The place in El Rosario (on the right as you drive out of town, southbound), is a gift shop run by an Americana named Kim. She is very nice to to visit with. Kim has the Almanac and folding map for sale, supplied by Landon. Check out the wind chimes made from El Marmol onyx!!!

bajalou - 1-28-2005 at 08:54 PM

Kat at the San Felipe Title Company (located upstairs next to Baja Java) between Mar de Cortez and the Malecon in San Felipe carries the Almanac and the fold out map of Baja they also publish. Also quite a few Baja related books - new and used. Closed Mondays.



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