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Baja Newbie with Airstream

Utahchic - 1-21-2012 at 07:25 PM

Hi! I am considering a trip to Baja Mexico for my maiden voyage with my new trailer.

I'd like all the "need" to know information.

I came across Mike Church's book. The last edition was 2009, have there been many changes?

My biggest concern is safety, both personal and property. I haven't come across any posts about recent (2012) safety information. I did read NOT to drive at night, but any other tips would be much appreciated!

Also, what is the best area or towns to visit?

TIA

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 07:39 PM

Get insurance. Go to anywhere south of El Rosario.

Spearo - 1-21-2012 at 07:41 PM

There are lots of past threads covering things to bring and safety. Use the search option on the site to find them.

Bring two spares for the trailer and an air compressor, full tool kit and an open mind. As a rule people (both Mexicans and gringos) are very helpful. A little spanish goes a long way.

Towing on Mex 1 is definitely challenging and a little unnerving. The road is narrow with no shoulder in a lot of places. Your outside trailer wheel will be on the white line most of the time. If the trailer is new to you I would recommend pulling it on some narrow winding roads near home until you learn exactly where it is behind you. Baja is not the place to get to know your trailer. You will see Mexican semis driving in ways that would land you in jail in the states.

BajaRat - 1-21-2012 at 07:50 PM

Check out some of the past forums on this site, gleen the info that interests you. Though the trans peninsular hwy has seen much improvement its still full of sudden curves, domestic and wildlife.Trucks and oncoming traffic often cross the center at the most inconvenient time. Take your time, enjoy the ride.

[Edited on 1-22-2012 by BajaRat]

Utahchic - 1-21-2012 at 07:52 PM

Thank you Spearo & BajaRat, very useful info. Ateo where do I get the insurance? For health and vehicles?

Spearo - 1-21-2012 at 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Utahchic
Thank you Spearo & BajaRat, very useful info. Ateo where do I get the insurance? For health and vehicles?


I get my auto insurance through Vagabundos del Mar travel club. There are lots of options but Vags has good insurance at great rates.

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 08:20 PM

I do bajabound. All online.....not sure about medical though.....

mcfez - 1-21-2012 at 08:25 PM

http://vagabundos.com/ we got them too. There is a club membership fee...cheap.

Towing a trailer can be hair raising. I have to assume that you are going down the pacific side. Yes indeed that road gets real narrow! You must be calm, alert.....while driving it. I swear that lane is 6 feet wide and my RV is 7 feet wide! Over statement...but done to give you an idea how tight that road is.

Obey the speed laws.....understand that if you are pull over for a speeding ticket...that fine must be paid for....on the spot...at the police Station. Officers are NOT allowed to take the fine! Also...if you get in a wreck...both parties go to the police station to clear things up...so dont freak out :-)


Bay of Los Angeles is fantastic.....as well as the rest of Baja.

Have fun.

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 08:25 PM

If someone knows about medical coverage for 1-2 weeks let me know.

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 08:29 PM

What do you like to do? Kayak, surf, camp, swim, scuba, swim, read, historical places, strip bars, bars, mountains, dirt, snow, or ??

All depends on where we recommend you go. No skiing like Utah though. :)

Definitely recommend searching the nomad archives.

Utahchic - 1-21-2012 at 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by ateo
What do you like to do? Kayak, surf, camp, swim, scuba, swim, read, historical places, strip bars, bars, mountains, dirt, snow, or ??

All depends on where we recommend you go. No skiing like Utah though. :)

Definitely recommend searching the nomad archives.


Ha! I love to Kayak, I've been twice so need easy paddling suggestions. What about rentals?

Fishing! My brother would love some suggestions.

RV campsites.

Historical places.

Utahchic - 1-21-2012 at 08:35 PM

Staring to wonder if it is a good idea to take the trailer down there for the first trip:(

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 08:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
Staring to wonder if it is a good idea to take the trailer down there for the first trip:(


You're intuition is spot on. Leave it home and take it easy. Come back later with the trailer.

Having said that, if you know what you're doing, don't always trust the advice on this forum. People can sometimes be overly cautious. Know your capabilities.

BajaBlanca - 1-21-2012 at 08:40 PM

welcome to the site utahchic !!

how much time do you have ? a couple of musts:

el rosario to see mama espinoza's restaurant. it is a piece of history. you should gas up here since there's a looooooooooong way to the next official gas station.

bahia asuncion since it is really pretty. lots of options for places to stay. surfing if you are into that.

la bocana because we live here and it is also VERY pretty.

san ignacio to see the whales up close and personal. Go visit CASA LEREE and talk to owner Juanita. She is American so Spanish is no issue. There is a museum there (free) and she has plenty of Baja books for sale.

santa rosalia since eiffel designed the church there - the architecture is french colonial.

mulege - just a neat place - tons of restaurants to eat at - stores to buy things at

bahia concepcion has the most beautiful beaches maybe in the world - nice place to swim. absolutely gorgeous.

Next - Loreto is one of my personal fav places. the walkway with the stores is fantastic.

someone else will have to give you specifics on where to park your vehicle !

Have fun !!

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 08:43 PM

No waves kayaking and fishing should lead you to the sea of Cortez side. Warm water. Maybe somewhere south of Mulege. Lots of pristine, quiet coves.

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 08:47 PM

I second BajaBlancas post. Take notes on what she said. Santa Rosalia is awesome. If it was me I'd head to the pacific side, but that's my personal preference. You need to hit up both coasts for a balanced Baja trip. Then you'll know where you want to go next time.

Utahchic - 1-21-2012 at 09:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaBlanca
welcome to the site utahchic !!

how much time do you have ? a couple of musts:

el rosario to see mama espinoza's restaurant. it is a piece of history. you should gas up here since there's a looooooooooong way to the next official gas station.

bahia asuncion since it is really pretty. lots of options for places to stay. surfing if you are into that.


la bocana because we live here and it is also VERY pretty.

san ignacio to see the whales up close and personal. Go visit CASA LEREE and talk to owner Juanita. She is American so Spanish is no issue. There is a museum there (free) and she has plenty of Baja books for sale.

santa rosalia since eiffel designed the church there - the architecture is french colonial.

mulege - just a neat place - tons of restaurants to eat at - stores to buy things at

bahia concepcion has the most beautiful beaches maybe in the world - nice place to swim. absolutely gorgeous.

Next - Loreto is one of my personal fav places. the walkway with the stores is fantastic.

someone else will have to give you specifics on where to park your vehicle !

Have fun !!


Great stuff! Thank you. We have all the time in the world. I am just worried about the roads with my vehicles, might be too stressful.

Ateo - 1-21-2012 at 09:07 PM

What's your normal vehicle? Truck? Air down, and take it easy. You'll be fine.

woody with a view - 1-21-2012 at 09:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
I am just worried about the roads with my vehicles, might be too stressful.


stay home.... it's less stressful there, i'm sure!

Mulegena - 1-21-2012 at 09:24 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic


Ha! I love to Kayak, I've been twice so need easy paddling suggestions. What about rentals?

Fishing! My brother would love some suggestions.

RV campsites.

Historical places.
You can camp and/or rent a trailer spot in Huerta Don Chano in the charming historical village of Mulege. Its in town on the river, not out on the highway so you can easily walk around the pretty little town and out to the lighthouse.

The beaches south of Mulege in the Bay of Conception are ranked 'way up there among Baja's many treasures. They're a destination in and of themselves, and yes the kayaking is good to excellent. There is bio-luminescence in the water in these cooler months, so a boat ride at night may be in your future to experience this marvelous phenomenon.

San Javier, the historical mission and charming village has to be on your list, too. Its 'way'way up in the mountains south of Loreto. You definately will NOT be taking a trailer up there, but you can spend the day and come back down or rent a charming little room on the plaza.

WhalesWhalesWhales: This time of year they're a "Must Do"

Here's some contact information:
~ Huerta Don Chano, Manuel Romero owner/operator
615-153-0720 (call at night is best; he speaks English)
email: manuel_romero25@yahoo.com.mx
~Ecomundo De Eduardo, Kayaking & water-related tours
located on Playa Burro in the Bay of Conception
email: edsworldmulege@yahoo.com
USA/message: 218-257-4433
~Cave Painting Tour near Mulege
go to Las Casitas Hotel and Restaurant in Mulege
ask for Salvador.
btw, you can stay at Las Casitas in downtown Mulege
its in one of the historical buildings, is beautiful and friendly
and is very reasonably priced

BajaBlanca - 1-21-2012 at 09:44 PM

I have driven down and it is scary but do-able. The roads are just very narrow with no shoulder...a trailer the first time might be quite the experience, just take it slow.

for kayaking and swimming - gotta be the sea of cortez side. we have waves and freezing water onthe pacific ocean side. but we have good fishing !!

for fishing - bay of los angeles, bahia asuncion, and por supuesto (of course) our village, La Bocana :))))

if you dont take the trailer
1. el rosario - baja cactus hotel and mention you are a nomad for a discount
2. bahia asuncion - there is a campsite available - campo sirena
3. la bocana - we are building an outside bathroom if you want to camp
4. casa leree in san ignacio. reasonable. small. Juanita.
and then you can go whale watching for the day and come back
5. loreto - coco cabanas. mention you are a baja nomader !

grizzlyfsh95 - 1-22-2012 at 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
I am just worried about the roads with my vehicles, might be too stressful.


stay home.... it's less stressful there, i'm sure!


Now THERE is the Baja Nomad attitude we know and love.:biggrin:

ElCazadorAZ - 1-22-2012 at 09:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
Staring to wonder if it is a good idea to take the trailer down there for the first trip:(


UtahChic, we just did our first Baja California Sur trip, a 3200 mile roundtrip, to Bahia Concepcion with our old Dodge diesel and 5th wheel. Trailer pulling is ALWAYS an adventure. Anywhere. Mexico presents its own challenges. Be prepared! Do ALL your maintenance in the States. Its a Helluva lot easier to buy tires and repack bearings in your hometown than it is out on the lonesome highway. You think tires are expensive? If you blow one out you'll wish you'd bought 4 new ones. Make sure your truck and trailer are in top condition and have spares. Its Murphy's Law: If you have spares you won't need them. If you don't....

Don't be A-Skeered of the trip. Take plenty of time, be smart and careful and you will have a blast. We sure did! If you wait until you're perfectly prepared..... You will never go. Shove off that dock and GO. You'll wish you'd gone years sooner. H



[Edited on 1-22-2012 by ElCazadorAZ]

Sweetwater - 1-22-2012 at 10:22 AM

Been down a couple of times on motos.......I'm in the SLValley.....headed back for trip #3 next month.....I have maps, pics and plenty of time.....give me a U2 and I'll be happy to share the areas I've explored....btw, the folks on this board are great and there's some really good people in Mulege......Very good spot for your trailer.......

willyAirstream - 1-22-2012 at 10:26 AM

If it is a new Airstream or you worry about dings, install rock shields as you will throw pebbles and rocks to the rear. My first trip was pulling an Airstream Tradewind, it was a white knuckle experience and tiring, but worth it. Bring 2 spares for the trailer as well as the TV. Where ever I stopped, truckers would always pull in behind me to see if I needed assistance, which was a pleasant shock.

Go for it, and enjoy!

tripledigitken - 1-22-2012 at 10:35 AM

Is your tow vehicle up to the task?

Sweetwater - 1-22-2012 at 10:35 AM

Hey Willy.........my best to everyone......will be in touch as the plan solidifies........if it ever, really does......:saint:

Bob H - 1-22-2012 at 10:48 AM

Take your trailer down and enjoy the trip! You MUST spend at least a few days in the Mulege area... (MOO-la-hay)

http://www.baja-web.com/mulege/index6891.html

While in Mulege, you must stop and eat/drink at Scotty's El Candil restaurant, for sure!! If they are serving their beer battered lobster chunks... get it! To die for, along with a large margarita!

[Edited on 1-22-2012 by Bob H]

Spearo - 1-22-2012 at 03:19 PM

Utahchic...don't get freaked out by the words of caution from us veterans. If you have never driven in Mexico you will a little taken aback by the situation. Go slow and be prepared for contingencies. You may try finding a travel partner to caravan with. I followed a long time Baja dude down my first trip and it was very helpful.

scouter - 1-22-2012 at 03:29 PM

you will be sorry if you don't drag the trailer , the RV parks in BAJA especially further south are great and quite the experience , some great folks and if you have any problems there are people looking for things to fix .......enjoy

windgrrl - 1-22-2012 at 04:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
Hi! I am considering a trip to Baja Mexico for my maiden voyage with my new trailer.


Before setting out, take your RV out on the road to get used to driving with it and stay in it for a few days. Learn how everything works and whether anything needs to be fixed before you go. Get your trailer and tow vehicle set up correctly (anti-sway, equalizer hitch). Have your tow vehicle maintained and tires checked as there are steep grades and curvy roads.

The roads are narrow at times and you need to carefully assess whether you can pull off the road as the shoulders are tiny and sharp in many places. Spend some time acquiring/looking at your route on a variety of maps (Googlemap, CAA, Baja Almanac and maps on Bajanomad). Having a passenger along is helpful. Carefully watch for road repairs, potholes and traffic signs.

The Church's book is okay, but I think it needs updating. With their GPS coordinates, you'll have references to potential stopping places. Some things have changed and some of the recommended camping sites can be a challenge with an RV. They have a good reference page for Mexico traffic sign translations.

Enjoy the journey, it's a world of wonders,
w

windgrrl - 1-22-2012 at 05:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
Staring to wonder if it is a good idea to take the trailer down there for the first trip:(


Consider caravaning with a seasoned Baja RV nut.

David K - 1-22-2012 at 05:08 PM

Mexican Auto Insurance can be purchased ONLINE before you leave home by the company that sponsors THIS web site... They are good, with the best rated insurance and great personal assistance if their are any issues: http://www.BAJABOUND.com Baja Nomad memeber 'Baja Geoff is co-owner and a regular here on Nomad.

Remember, if you tow anything, THAT must me specified on the policy. Daily, or Annaully sold policies (an annual policy may be cheaper if you travel to Mexico more than 3 weeks a year, and no worry about it expiring if you get delayed or want to stay longer than your daily policy was made for)!

Oh, sure I am biassed... because they are good, but also they ask me to write little travel articles for their web site :light::cool: LOOK: http://www.bajabound.com/bajatravel/
Give you a few ideas on what is down there... Also see my photos of various Baja places, indexed on this page: http://vivabaja.com/tours to get some ideas on what might be interesting for you to see!

[Edited on 1-23-2012 by David K]

BajaBlanca - 1-22-2012 at 07:27 PM

you can ask for a caravaner right on this board ... at least then you will have another vehicle - person - to help out should something go wrong !

It is an adventure .. much more than a vacation !

Mulegena - 1-23-2012 at 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by Bob H
Take your trailer down and enjoy the trip! You MUST spend at least a few days in the Mulege area... (MOO-la-hay)

http://www.baja-web.com/mulege/index6891.html

While in Mulege, you must stop and eat/drink at Scotty's El Candil restaurant, for sure!! If they are serving their beer battered lobster chunks... get it! To die for, along with a large margarita!

[Edited on 1-22-2012 by Bob H]


Mulege is correctly pronounced "Moo-la-HAY" with emphasis on the last, not first, sylable; but no worries. If I'm speaking English I use Bob H's pronunciation, too.
...and, Yes, I know I spell my moniker incorrectly, but I'm using it as a personal name.
Technically, someone who is from the town of Mulege, male or female, is a Mulegino (Moo-la-HEE-no).

Yes, Mulege is a destination with lots to see and do (and eat).

Another couple cool things to do in Mulege are to go to the Mission and climb the steps overlooking the river and vista of town. If someone's in the church ask if you can climb the spiraling labyrinth of steep interior steps up onto the rooftop-- that's a gas! Also go see the museum up on the hill; its in the old prison which has its own, colorful and recent story.

You'll have lots of fun, make lasting friendships and tons of great memories.

The whole of the peninsula is a wonderland.
Get ye down here!

[Edited on 1-23-2012 by Mulegena]

Bajamatic - 1-23-2012 at 09:34 AM

Plan for an overnight in or just south of Ensenada. Then wake up nice an early with no hangover and tackle the road from Ensenada to San quintin. That is a fantastic intro into what you're about to experience from that point on. Spend the night or two in San quintin and when you're ready, make the run to guerrero negro or bola depending on your itinerary. By then you'll have it wired. And don't drive at night or tired. Prepare for it. It's white knuckle every time a big rig passes, but it's very doable. Take your time and you'll be fine.

David K - 1-23-2012 at 09:49 AM

There are long sections of winding, mountain road with few turnouts and small or no shoulders... The first is south of Ensenada to Colonet... They are working on adding wide shoulders to the first section (other newly modified roads in Baja now have wide 'bike lane' type shoulders... However, most of Hwy. 1 south of San Quintin is the original 19 foot. wide ribbon that was hurriedly built and finished in 1973 to meet the deadline made by the president of Mexico during his campaign tour.



[Edited on 1-23-2012 by David K]

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Mulegena - 1-23-2012 at 09:53 AM

Two days in San Quintin?
How 'bout an overnighter and a shorter run to Catavina and the boulder fields, one of North Baja's natural treasures?
Then Bahia de Los Angeles.
Then on to San Ignacio for the whales.
Mulege.
Loreto.
and points south

David K - 1-23-2012 at 09:55 AM

Of course, if you can handle a few hundred miles of 19 ft. wide road with semis, busses, and RVs towing boats, you will find peace!




Bahia Concepcion, south of Mulege (Playa La Perla)



Do stop for a burger and beer at Mike and Olivia's restaurant next to the abandoned motel Playa BuenaVentura, just north of El Requeson and La Perla:




El Requseon, about the neicest beach camping spot on Bahia Concepcion.

[Edited on 1-23-2012 by David K]

David K - 1-23-2012 at 10:08 AM

Magnificient Spanish Missions were built in Baja, long before the padres wondered north to San Diego!



Mision San Francisco Javier, founded in 1699 is about 20 miles west from Loreto on a good road that is nearly all paved now. This is California's SECOND mission, after Loreto. See other stone missions at San Ignacio, Mulege, Loreto along Hwy. 1 and San Borja, San Luis Gonzaga, Comondu on dirt side roads... other ruins from the 27 missions in Baja are also of interest and many are along Hwy. 1 or within 5 miles: El Descanso, San Miguel, Santo Tomas, San Vicente, Santo Domingo, El Rosario (2 sites), San Fernando.

See and read more about them: http://vivabaja.com/bajamissions

805gregg - 1-23-2012 at 06:49 PM

Maybe take a vehicle trip first, without the trailer, there are planty of cheap hotels and you will have the freedom of going almost anywhere. If you take your new Airstream you will look like a rich gringo, and will be hasseled and preyed upon by the local police, thats how they make thier salary, plus the bummer of a 20' wide road with no shoulder.

Pompano - 1-23-2012 at 07:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
Hi! I am considering a trip to Baja Mexico for my maiden voyage with my new trailer.

I'd like all the "need" to know information.

I came across Mike Church's book. The last edition was 2009, have there been many changes?

My biggest concern is safety, both personal and property. I haven't come across any posts about recent (2012) safety information. I did read NOT to drive at night, but any other tips would be much appreciated!

Also, what is the best area or towns to visit?

TIA


For the first trip down the Baja Road with a trailer, how about going with a caravan? You would gain some valuable experience and be guided to some nice places.

You seem like a common sense person...and 'common sense' is not so common anymore...

After that initial trip, strike out on your own.

I've pulled and driven every conceivable RV and trailer down that highway since it's completion...and my best advice is... do not do it alone the first time. Common sense rules the day....but...go for it, you can do it.

motoged - 1-24-2012 at 01:59 AM

Utahchic...??

You have had some good suggestions.....sounds like you will have a great trip and adventure.

Got any pics of the Airstream??:biggrin:

Bajafun777 - 1-26-2012 at 12:09 AM

Good idea is leave your trailer the first time down, as you then pull into those R.V. camping areas while driving down Baja to check them out first. Hotels are reasonable especially if you have AAA, also get membership in Good Sam (Note Good Sam also has towing now in Mexico) or Discover Baja has some hotels that give good deals also. By driving down you can see what areas get your attention and then you can actually drive into the R.V. camping sites to check out what they have to offer,do they have electrical hook-ups, are they clean, do they have security, do they have security that actually walks around at night talk to the people staying there when you visit.
Good suggests by others here on what you can do the first time crossing and note that being overly stressed will make you doubt yourself for future visits. The unknown is usually best taken on with you being in the very best position to handle the unknown.
My son is helping his aunt in Brawley sell a 1958 18ft airstream travel trailer. They are solid and he has gotten offers for up to $7,000 so far on it. It is old but in pretty good shape. So, you have a good trailer that will do just fine in Mexico and know that it will hold its price for years into the future. Take Care & Travel Safe----------- "No Hurry, No Worry, Just FUN"

edm1 - 1-26-2012 at 06:22 AM

Great advice. With those unevenly-paved highways, you may think your vehicle/trailer handles very well in US freeways, you'd be surprised in Baja. Make sure your tow vehicle has PRECISE steering and handling.

Quote:
Originally posted by windgrrl
Quote:
Originally posted by Utahchic
Hi! I am considering a trip to Baja Mexico for my maiden voyage with my new trailer.


Before setting out, take your RV out on the road to get used to driving with it and stay in it for a few days. Learn how everything works and whether anything needs to be fixed before you go. Get your trailer and tow vehicle set up correctly (anti-sway, equalizer hitch). Have your tow vehicle maintained and tires checked as there are steep grades and curvy roads.

The roads are narrow at times and you need to carefully assess whether you can pull off the road as the shoulders are tiny and sharp in many places. Spend some time acquiring/looking at your route on a variety of maps (Googlemap, CAA, Baja Almanac and maps on Bajanomad). Having a passenger along is helpful. Carefully watch for road repairs, potholes and traffic signs.

The Church's book is okay, but I think it needs updating. With their GPS coordinates, you'll have references to potential stopping places. Some things have changed and some of the recommended camping sites can be a challenge with an RV. They have a good reference page for Mexico traffic sign translations.

Enjoy the journey, it's a world of wonders,
w