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Who owns this little Sweety?

Bajatripper - 2-2-2012 at 01:13 PM

Does anyone know the owner(s) of this little sweetheart of an Alfa Romeo?
I posted the same question on a different thread and, so far, no responses. I like to believe that some of my fellow Nomads are the type of people who'd own such a machine--or at least know people who do.



According to my reference material, it's an Alfa Romeo Giulia Nouva Super, made between the years 1974 and until around 1978. It came available with either a 1300cc (which put out a whopping [for its size] 103 horsepower) or 1600 (with 115 horses available) under the hood. Add to that four-wheel disc brakes and one of those famous Alfa suspentions, and this would be one hell of a ride on the road to Los Cabos via the old mining district--lots of tight curves in sections with places to really let 'er rip. Aaahh, how I miss hearing that "Alfa growl" under full acceleration.

The car is located about two blocks north of the Santuario, in La Paz. I'd love to hear from the owner.

DENNIS - 2-2-2012 at 01:50 PM

That's mine. You can have it free, but I seem to have misplaced the keys so you'll have to hotwire it. :biggrin:

Since we're on the subject....

sanquintinsince73 - 2-2-2012 at 02:22 PM

Who drives around IB in a red SUV with a rear window sticker that reads: "No bad days in Mulege" ? Just curious.

paranewbi - 2-2-2012 at 02:29 PM

sanquintinsince73...really? am I that unobservant? I can't remember having even seen a red SUV. I hot on it though.

sanquintinsince73 - 2-2-2012 at 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by paranewbi
sanquintinsince73...really? am I that unobservant? I can't remember having even seen a red SUV. I hot on it though.


with a rear window sticker that reads: "No bad days in Mulege" ?

DENNIS - 2-2-2012 at 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Who drives around IB in a red SUV with a rear window sticker that reads: "No bad days in Mulege" ? Just curious.


Someone who's never been there when the 'canes are blowing. :light:

sanquintinsince73 - 2-2-2012 at 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
Who drives around IB in a red SUV with a rear window sticker that reads: "No bad days in Mulege" ? Just curious.


Someone who's never been there when the 'canes are blowing. :light:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

mcfez - 2-2-2012 at 04:49 PM

Just fell off my chair laughing.....
Good one DENNIS

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Originally posted by DENNIS
That's mine. You can have it free, but I seem to have misplaced the keys so you'll have to hotwire it. :biggrin:

car

captkw - 2-2-2012 at 05:11 PM

HOLA,,,BTW I belive,,,the oldest car man.....around the mundo(world)...K&T

Skipjack Joe - 2-2-2012 at 05:41 PM

I had a 1500cc VW bug back then and it wasn't all that fast.

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Originally posted by Bajatripper

Aaahh, how I miss hearing that "Alfa growl" under full acceleration.



Sure wish my stomach would stop growling. Followed by an oil leak.

[Edited on 2-3-2012 by Skipjack Joe]

Bajatripper - 2-2-2012 at 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I had a 1500cc VW bug back then and it wasn't all that fast.




Surely you aren't comparing a VW Bug with an Alfa Romeo, are you? That bug put out, what...? 36-40 horses? Alfas, on the other hand, were products of racing machines transferred over to their "civilian" counterparts. They commonly came from the factory with headers, twin Weber carbs, four wheel disc brakes, five-speed gearboxes (in the '50s and 60s) and--most importantly--throughout most of their history, they tended to be pretty bare in terms of creature comforts. In that, they did compare pretty well with the Bugs of their day. I've owned a few Bugs, and when it comes to performance, these are two very different creatures.

Skipjack Joe - 2-3-2012 at 12:30 AM

Hey, what do I know? To me a vehicle is something to get from point A to point B. I'm sorry for having the audacity to compare the 2.

zoesterone - 2-3-2012 at 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper
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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I had a 1500cc VW bug back then and it wasn't all that fast.




Surely you aren't comparing a VW Bug with an Alfa Romeo, are you? That bug put out, what...? 36-40 horses? Alfas, on the other hand, were products of racing machines transferred over to their "civilian" counterparts. They commonly came from the factory with headers, twin Weber carbs, four wheel disc brakes, five-speed gearboxes (in the '50s and 60s) and--most importantly--throughout most of their history, they tended to be pretty bare in terms of creature comforts. In that, they did compare pretty well with the Bugs of their day. I've owned a few Bugs, and when it comes to performance, these are two very different creatures.


I was secretary of the Alfa Romeo club in Tucson and my baby was a canary yellow Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce convertible, and did I love her! She could pass most any car on a hill as though they were standing still. Then one day, she got feisty and threw a rod as I was driving to work and we said goodbye. Sold her to another Alfa lover and he fixed her right up again...maybe she just needed a man. '-)

Bajatripper - 2-3-2012 at 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Hey, what do I know? To me a vehicle is something to get from point A to point B. I'm sorry for having the audacity to compare the 2.


Sorry, Skipjack, I should have put some :lol: to put it in the proper perspective. I think most people are more like you than me when it comes to cars. It's something that's in the blood, you're born with. Although I never really knew my father, much less his interests, my mother always said I was just like him. And I see the same in my kids, one has it, one doesn't, and it's too early to tell on the third.

When I live in the US, where there's what seems like an infinite supply of cheap "older" (so as not to say "junk") cars, my addiction is allowed to manifest itself to its fullest. At one time I had eight cars (four of them Alfa Romeos) around the house, in various states of disrepair. Luckily, being in the military, every three years I had to shed what I couldn't take or store. Down here, I have no problems because the cars I can afford don't interest me. There aren't any 300 dollar Fiat 124 sports coupes.

[Edited on 2-3-2012 by Bajatripper]

Bajatripper - 2-3-2012 at 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by zoesterone
I was secretary of the Alfa Romeo club in Tucson and my baby was a canary yellow Alfa Romeo Spider Veloce convertible, and did I love her! She could pass most any car on a hill as though they were standing still. Then one day, she got feisty and threw a rod as I was driving to work and we said goodbye. Sold her to another Alfa lover and he fixed her right up again...maybe she just needed a man. '-)


Aaahhh, that Alfa talk...so soothing to my ears. I do miss it so. I presently own one similar to the one you had--suffering from a similar condition--sitting outside in my yard now. I will tow that baby to hell-and-gone before letting her go. But they are expensive addictions, as I've been reminded in these days.

Roberto - 2-3-2012 at 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Bajatripper
Does anyone know the owner(s) of this little sweetheart of an Alfa Romeo?
I posted the same question on a different thread and, so far, no responses. I like to believe that some of my fellow Nomads are the type of people who'd own such a machine--or at least know people who do.



According to my reference material, it's an Alfa Romeo Giulia Nouva Super, made between the years 1974 and until around 1978. It came available with either a 1300cc (which put out a whopping [for its size] 103 horsepower) or 1600 (with 115 horses available) under the hood. Add to that four-wheel disc brakes and one of those famous Alfa suspentions, and this would be one hell of a ride on the road to Los Cabos via the old mining district--lots of tight curves in sections with places to really let 'er rip. Aaahh, how I miss hearing that "Alfa growl" under full acceleration.

The car is located about two blocks north of the Santuario, in La Paz. I'd love to hear from the owner.


Hard to tell which exact variant of the Giulia that is. When I was growing up the Giulia was the police car and for many years afterwards. It also was used by the Carabinieri and known for one of the best handling sedans available, which is why it was so popular with law enforcement. Most all the models came in 1300 or 1600 cc, but that color does not look original to me - too bright. Could be the photo or I could be wrong - it's been a long time.

I drove alfas for a long time, though mostly the Sprint version, which is a 2+2 coupe. I remember clearly the redline at 5700 RPM and 5 speed transmission. You could take it to about 6000, but there was nothing more to give, and the best performance was obtained by shifting at exactly 5700, especially since most of the power was in the upper band, and by driving it that way you could remain in the power band.

I also remember having one of the worst accidents in my life in that car, hit the steering wheel so hard with my chest, that it snapped and lodged itself in my upper chest, snapping my collarbone. It had a custom wooden wheel made by Nardi which actually splintered - ouch.

Bajatripper - 2-3-2012 at 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Roberto
Hard to tell which exact variant of the Giulia that is. When I was growing up the Giulia was the police car and for many years afterwards. It also was used by the Carabinieri and known for one of the best handling sedans available, which is why it was so popular with law enforcement. Most all the models came in 1300 or 1600 cc, but that color does not look original to me - too bright. Could be the photo or I could be wrong - it's been a long time.

I drove alfas for a long time, though mostly the Sprint version, which is a 2+2 coupe. I remember clearly the redline at 5700 RPM and 5 speed transmission. You could take it to about 6000, but there was nothing more to give, and the best performance was obtained by shifting at exactly 5700, especially since most of the power was in the upper band, and by driving it that way you could remain in the power band.

I also remember having one of the worst accidents in my life in that car, hit the steering wheel so hard with my chest, that it snapped and lodged itself in my upper chest, snapping my collarbone. It had a custom wooden wheel made by Nardi which actually splintered - ouch.


So you're Italian, Roberto? How cool is that.

Thanks for sharing your memories with us. I've always enjoyed seeing police cars in pretty much any flick filmed in Europe.

However, I do note that we have a totally different opinion on how to drive an Alfa, which interests me. My present Alfa mount, a '67 Duetto (the car that rocketed to stardom in the Dustin Hoffman movie The Graduate) and it's anything but tame above 5400 RPM. In fact, I didn't even know that Alfa Romeo made an engine with such a low redline. Mine, for instance, redlines at 6250, still pullling strongly on up to more than I'd care to admit. But that's what these machines are made for, according to everything I've ever heard or read on the make. In fact, the "wisdom" I've picked up over the years is that these cars need to be taken out regularly for a good throttling to keep carbon deposits down. That is part of the beauty of double overhead cams, they're usually high-revving.

A 5400 RPM redline would seem more indicative of a pushrod engine, like the US auto industry is so fond of. Assuming your Alfas had the standard double overhead cam engines that made the company famous, then I'd guess that perhaps for the home market the company de-tunes their engines, probably more restrictive carburation and different cams, something like that, in an effort to make them more fuel efficient (and less fun to drive). As you know, gasoline prices in Europe are a whole nother matter.

My present Alfa ride (when it's running). I had the pleasure of driving it down from Washington with my daughter a couple of summers ago.

Skipjack Joe - 2-3-2012 at 06:42 PM

Well, I sorta figured things out after the single-woman-in-baja thread of yours.

I was going to comment that the normal baja traveler would have shown pictures of the lady's tailpipe and undercarriage and not the car's. That's when I knew you were different.

But then I changed my mind and didn't (post it).

Roberto - 2-3-2012 at 07:08 PM

5700, not 5400 - and that 300 RPM made all the difference. I can tell you that I've pushed that car every which way from Sunday. Built up power until that point, then pretty much that was it - shifting would keep you going, but extra RPM did not yield extra power. It had a strong oversteer, and once you understood how to control it, bring it on! And it was eminently controllable.

I know that many of the cars sold in the U.S. were shipped with a 2000 cc engine and all of them were tuned very differently from the cars sold in Italy. I can also tell you that engine mods were easy and common, though they made the car a little unruly in that they REALLY had to be revved. Besides the police, many of "the other side" had these same card, but in the coupe version. Which engine is yours? I remember having a blast because when you drove one of these at night, especially the way I did, people assumed you were in "la mala", short for malavita. Until they saw me - all of 22 years old :lol::lol: Different times, different world.

I didn't mean to imply the car was tame. Mine was a 1300 cc and top speed was 180 kph. Not bad, especially driving in town, which I did many a time. Driving this car on the Autostrada (Italian version of the Autobahn) was REALLY fun. In those days, there were no speed limits.

Roberto - 2-3-2012 at 07:25 PM

Tripper. From the Italian OmniAuto.it. It's in Italian, but you speak Spanish, right? Close enough. :lol::lol:

http://www.omniauto.it/magazine/304/alfa-romeo-giulia-gt

You'll notice that there are several models discussed, all in the RPM ballpark we're talking about.

Remembering those times is fun. A simpler world, and not just because of my age. And besides, I was invulnerable back then. :biggrin:

If it would only pull my boat out of the water I would still be driving this......

akmaxx - 2-3-2012 at 08:28 PM

sighh.....



[Edited on 2-4-2012 by akmaxx]

Bajatripper - 2-3-2012 at 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by akmaxx
sighh.....

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee493/aswmiso/Picture239...


Dude! You've got to post that photo HERE! You've successfully loaded it up to photobucket, so you're almost there. Niiiicccceeee! I'd have gotten a smaller boat:lol:

Can never remember which code inserts the Photobucket picture...

akmaxx - 2-4-2012 at 07:28 AM

Here's the backside...



Whole different powerband in the Alfas. Great to drive at high-rpm's and they seemed pep up my days no matter where I was going.

[Edited on 2-4-2012 by akmaxx]

Bajatripper - 2-5-2012 at 01:19 AM

WOW!!! Real nice car, akmaxx. Leaves me speechless and in tears...thanks

durrelllrobert - 2-5-2012 at 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I had a 1500cc VW bug back then and it wasn't all that fast.



[Edited on 2-3-2012 by Skipjack Joe]

Back in the 60s me and my buddies put a 100HP Corvair in a bug and it was very fast. Because Corvair/VW rotation is opposite we had to reverse ring gear and pinion to have 3 speeds forward. Also had problem finding 6V starter to fit and turn Corvair properly. As I recall it came out of a Goliath.
PS: the corvair had 164cid = 2,687cc

[Edited on 2-5-2012 by durrelllrobert]