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Military taking info at check point

CortezBlue - 2-21-2012 at 11:29 AM

Ok
Going down and coming back from San Felipe, I was asked for my name and they took my Lic Plate Number???

Whatz up wit dat?

mulegemichael - 2-21-2012 at 11:32 AM

happens all the time at the checkpoint north of loreto on hwy 1...no big deal.

sancho - 2-21-2012 at 11:38 AM

Someone once suggested that the Mex Military
doesn't have the authority to check tourist cards,
etc. I'm under the opinion they can do anything
reasonable they want. I remember reading
something similiar to your encounter.
I can't imagine they DO anything with that
info, can't see it going anywhere, but who knows

Info

bajaguy - 2-21-2012 at 11:43 AM

They are the military, and they have guns...............are you going to argue with them????

BajaNomad - 2-21-2012 at 11:56 AM

They were doing this at checkpoints in areas of San Ignacio and La Paz (and other locations) on a trip we took down the peninsula back in late-December and early-January.

fyi

[Edited on 2-21-2012 by BajaNomad]

DENNIS - 2-21-2012 at 11:58 AM

They're building their Christmas Card list. Feel well loved.

Bajatripper - 2-21-2012 at 12:07 PM

I was told by a soldier that they do this routinely as a means of "quality control" in that, if a vehicle gets popped further down the line with drugs or guns and it shows up on their list, they have some explaining to do.

But it's probably just "busy work" to give them something to do. In the Navy, we shined the brasswork. Doesn't look good to taxpayers to see people in uniform sitting around.

sancho - 2-21-2012 at 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajatripper
Doesn't look good to taxpayers to see people in uniform sitting around.



Can't imagine how much $ these Army guys make?
Heard a story that when a fellow thurs 18, he has
to submit to a lottery system, as I remember roulette
system involving white/black balls, black you are
subject to the Army, and the everpresent mordida
to get out, if you have the $. Before they built the
barracks no. of San Felipe, they were sleeping under
plastic tarps held up by Ocotillos


[Edited on 2-21-2012 by sancho]

bajajudy - 2-21-2012 at 12:41 PM

Here's a first
When we were in line at the check point north of San Ignacio, there was a car load of young Mexicans two cars ahead of us. The soldiers had all of them out of the car, looking under the seats etc. The car in between us and the young men was a local police truck with 3 policemen in the cab. I looked at Jim and said...this ought to be quick, we will be gone soon!
WRONG
The military guys took the policemen's guns with what looked like their permits(some kind of paperwork) and looked closely at the serial numbers on the guns and the permits. They marked all this information down on a sheet of paper on a clip board.
...15 minutes later, we smiled and were waved through.

David K - 2-21-2012 at 12:44 PM

The checkpoint at Gonzaga Bay (as lonely as it is compared to ones along the paved highways) has usually taken down my drivers license info or my passport info (depending what I handed him when he asked for I.D..) This has been the case for the past 10 years.

They just need more to do, that's all. The ones along the highway usually just wave me through after a quick question or glance.

mcfez - 2-21-2012 at 12:58 PM

I'm such a lovable guy...very popular in Baja....they never ask for my I.D. What makes you folks look so suspicious? ;)


However...they may be asking these questions to psych out .....drug runners and such. See their reactions....I'm assuming.

Tbone - 2-21-2012 at 01:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mcfez
I'm such a lovable guy...very popular in Baja....they never ask for my I.D. What makes you folks look so suspicious? ;)


However...they may be asking these questions to psych out .....drug runners and such. See their reactions....I'm assuming.


Fez they are probably afraid of you because by looking at your photo here I can see you look so.....Horney

motoged - 2-21-2012 at 04:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by David K
The checkpoint at Gonzaga Bay ... has usually taken down my drivers license info or my passport info ...This has been the case for the past 10 years.


David,
Those guys know that you pass on secret intel over the internet despite concerns expressed in those matters.....:biggrin:

DavidE - 2-21-2012 at 04:35 PM

This has been going off and on since the 60's. Depends on the whim of el teniente. Once in Oaxaca, I was stopped and had to wait while the soldado copied down every single letter on my tourist card and car permit, right down to the printer's logo and margin on the border of the documents!

With regard to civilians, the military must adhere to the same rules and laws as civilian law enforcement does. All 32 states have similar laws with regard to identification, and all 32 states state it is mandatory for anyone anywhere supply driver license when driving, migracion permit and motor vehicle TIP (mainland) when asked to do so by a law enforcement authority. This means that a transito in Vizcaino can ask to see your FMM or FM-3. I have read the specific law in a variety of libros codigo penales, and they all are written pretty darned similar. Capitan Joaquin Baez, SSP Petletlan, Guerrero was especially helpful in informing me about Mexican law with regard to ID.

Bajahowodd - 2-21-2012 at 05:16 PM

We have, occasionally been asked to show the vehicle registration, and they have written down the plate number. Have never been asked for tourist cards. Never requested to show a passport, or proof of insurance.

BajaWarrior - 2-21-2012 at 05:18 PM

Came through checkpoint yesterday North of San Felipe about 4 p.m. and one soldier took my license plate number and asked me to write my name on his clipboard, that was all. They've been doing it off and on for a while now and yes at Gonzaga also, however they did ask to see my I.D.

[Edited on 2-22-2012 by BajaWarrior]

BajaBlanca - 2-21-2012 at 05:21 PM

we are asked for ID off and on at the checkpoint south of san ignacio. sometimes they just ask for les's name and we always wonder what they write down since his name is quite complicated = it's Polish LOL !! :)

Fernweh - 2-21-2012 at 09:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaBlanca
we are asked for ID off and on at the checkpoint south of san ignacio. sometimes they just ask for les's name and we always wonder what they write down since his name is quite complicated = it's Polish LOL !! :)


I never do stop at the checkpoint south of San Ignacio, but definitely do stop at the one north of San Ignacio.......

Karl

Bajajorge - 2-22-2012 at 11:48 AM

Went through that check point last week, they didn't ask me, but I saw the guy with the clipboard asking some other folks questions. I've been told they just ask name and write down license numer.:?:

mtgoat666 - 2-22-2012 at 12:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
Ok
Going down and coming back from San Felipe, I was asked for my name and they took my Lic Plate Number???

Whatz up wit dat?


because it gives the inspectors something to do! that's why!

really, there is little logic. probably, some lard butt higher-up had a bright idea, and now the grunts in the field are taking names. i am sure the lists are shuffled from desk to desk with great military efficiency, until they find their way to file 13.

Bajamatic - 2-22-2012 at 02:18 PM

I'm guessing your name was immediately processed into a high-tech cloud based intel pool so the checkpoints can accurately and quickly trace your every step in baja.

[Edited on 2-22-2012 by Bajamatic]

The Gull - 2-22-2012 at 02:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
They're building their Christmas Card list. Feel well loved.


The BajaNomad World has been wading through 20,000 posts to get this one?

Sheesh!

sancho - 2-22-2012 at 04:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by The Gull
The BajaNomad World has been wading through 20,000 posts to get this one?



EVERYONE has an OFF day once in a while

ck points

captkw - 2-23-2012 at 10:22 AM

HOLA,nomad's,,,,,,,I guess I'm a old timer down here,,and that's funny to me,,but the only,reason, that these ck point's were started is because of the us gov, dosnt like competition...THE WAR ON DRUG"S so dont blame the mex gov on this,,the us made them start this ......FACT !! K&T:cool: PS..ya, someone that think's they know anything will want to tell me I'm wrong,,fine go watch your TV and leave the real world to people that spend their, whole life traveling this chunk of dirt !! PPS..it's a nice day in B.C.S.

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[Edited on 2-23-2012 by captkw]

Marc - 2-24-2012 at 07:04 AM

Went through there last week. routine like all others. Funny thing is you can drive all over Europe across any border with no checkpoints. My passport is almost devoid of stamps. I do remember many checkpoints and car searches inLondon. IRA stuff.

CortezBlue - 2-24-2012 at 07:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Marc
Went through there last week. routine like all others. Funny thing is you can drive all over Europe across any border with no checkpoints. My passport is almost devoid of stamps. I do remember many checkpoints and car searches inLondon. IRA stuff.


That is because they are now the EU. That was not true in the past.

TMW - 2-24-2012 at 10:44 AM

I don't remember ever being asked for an ID at a military check point. For a cerveza si.

jadams - 2-24-2012 at 11:04 AM

Went to San Felipe on 2-19 and my lic plate and name were listed and returning on the 23rd theydid the same

this happened a couple of times 2-3 yrs ago and stopped until now