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Baja "Pesca" director lost at sea......

sanquintinsince73 - 3-1-2012 at 09:55 AM

ENSENADA.- El director de Pesca del Estado, Juan Nemesio Murillo Murillo, se encuentra entre los cinco de los siete tripulantes que siguen extraviados después de que se volcara su embarcación en el tramo Punta Eugenia-Isla de Cedros.

De acuerdo a la información oficial, la lancha “MAKO II” partió rumbo a la isla la tarde del martes para trasladar a siete integrantes de la cooperativa Productores Nacionales de Abulón que asistirían a una asamblea de dicho organismo.

Se estima que la embarcación se volteó a 18 kilómetros aproximadamente al Sur de Isla Cedros, sin embargo, dos de los tripulantes, Antonio Victorio Moreno y Francisco Tapia Meillón, fueron encontrados a la altura de Bahía Tortugas, aferrados a la embarcación.

Junto con ellos también viajaban Ricardo Castro Villa Fuente, Ramona Castro Villegas, Juan Carlos Ojeda y José Castro Cervera, todos ellos extraviados junto con el director de Pesca y socios de la cooperativa de Productores Nacionales de Abulón.

Los dos tripulantes que fueron encontrados, fueron trasladados de inmediato para que recibieran atención médica.

Para la búsqueda de las personas que siguen extraviadas, se puso en marcha un operativo con el apoyo de un avión del Gobierno del Estado y otra aeronave privada, así como también dos interceptoras la Armada de México y cuando menos una decena de embarcaciones de varias organizaciones de pescadores.

Aunque todavía no ha sido confirmado, el director de Capitanía de Puerto en Isla de Cedros, Isaac Vargas, señaló que el accidente se debió a una descompostura en la lancha; otras versiones atribuyen el incidente al mal tiempo.

Por su parte, el secretario de Pesca y Acuacultura, Carlos Fernández Ruiz, comunicó que hoy continuará la búsqueda de los náufragos, pues mantienen la esperanza de encontrarlos con vida.

Indicó que a pesar de que no se encuentra en la entidad, el gobernador José Guadalupe Osuna Millán se está enterado del asunto y ha girado instrucciones para que se mantenga la búsqueda y se atienda a los familiares de las personas extraviadas.

RECUADRO

NOMBRE DE TRIPULANTES DESAPARECIDOS

Juan Nemesio Murillo Murillo director de Pesca en Ensenada.

Ricardo Castro Villa Fuente socio de la cooperativa de Abulón de Ensenada.

Ramona Castro Villegas socia de la cooperativa de Abulón de Ensenada.

Juan Carlos Ojeda socio de la cooperativa de Abulón de Ensenada.

José Castro Cervera socio de la cooperativa de Abulón.

TRIPULANTES RESCATADOS

Antonio Victorio Moreno.

Francisco Tapia Meillón.

bajaguy - 3-1-2012 at 10:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by sanquintinsince73
ENSENADA.- El director de Pesca del Estado, Juan Nemesio Murillo Murillo, se encuentra entre los cinco de los siete tripulantes que siguen extraviados después de que se volcara su embarcación en el tramo Punta Eugenia-Isla de Cedros.

De acuerdo a la información oficial, la lancha “MAKO II” partió rumbo a la isla la tarde del martes para trasladar a siete integrantes de la cooperativa Productores Nacionales de Abulón que asistirían a una asamblea de dicho organismo.

Se estima que la embarcación se volteó a 18 kilómetros aproximadamente al Sur de Isla Cedros, sin embargo, dos de los tripulantes, Antonio Victorio Moreno y Francisco Tapia Meillón, fueron encontrados a la altura de Bahía Tortugas, aferrados a la embarcación.

Junto con ellos también viajaban Ricardo Castro Villa Fuente, Ramona Castro Villegas, Juan Carlos Ojeda y José Castro Cervera, todos ellos extraviados junto con el director de Pesca y socios de la cooperativa de Productores Nacionales de Abulón.

Los dos tripulantes que fueron encontrados, fueron trasladados de inmediato para que recibieran atención médica.

Para la búsqueda de las personas que siguen extraviadas, se puso en marcha un operativo con el apoyo de un avión del Gobierno del Estado y otra aeronave privada, así como también dos interceptoras la Armada de México y cuando menos una decena de embarcaciones de varias organizaciones de pescadores.

Aunque todavía no ha sido confirmado, el director de Capitanía de Puerto en Isla de Cedros, Isaac Vargas, señaló que el accidente se debió a una descompostura en la lancha; otras versiones atribuyen el incidente al mal tiempo.

Por su parte, el secretario de Pesca y Acuacultura, Carlos Fernández Ruiz, comunicó que hoy continuará la búsqueda de los náufragos, pues mantienen la esperanza de encontrarlos con vida.

Indicó que a pesar de que no se encuentra en la entidad, el gobernador José Guadalupe Osuna Millán se está enterado del asunto y ha girado instrucciones para que se mantenga la búsqueda y se atienda a los familiares de las personas extraviadas.

RECUADRO

NOMBRE DE TRIPULANTES DESAPARECIDOS

Juan Nemesio Murillo Murillo director de Pesca en Ensenada.

Ricardo Castro Villa Fuente socio de la cooperativa de Abulón de Ensenada.

Ramona Castro Villegas socia de la cooperativa de Abulón de Ensenada.

Juan Carlos Ojeda socio de la cooperativa de Abulón de Ensenada.

José Castro Cervera socio de la cooperativa de Abulón.

TRIPULANTES RESCATADOS

Antonio Victorio Moreno.

Francisco Tapia Meillón.





ENSENADA. - The State Fisheries Director, Nemesio Juan Murillo Murillo, is among five of the seven crew members still missing after their boat capsized between Punta Eugenia on Cedros Island.

According to official information, the boat "MAKO II" left for the island on Tuesday afternoon to move to seven members of the cooperative National Abalone Growers who would attend a meeting of that body.

It is estimated that the vessel turned about 18 kilometers south of Cedros Island, however, two of the crew, Antonio Moreno and Francisco Tapia Victorio Meillon, were found up to Turtle Bay, clinging to the boat.

Along with them also traveled Villa Ricardo Castro Font, Ramona Castro Villegas, Juan Carlos Ojeda and Jose Castro Cervera, all lost together with the Director of Fisheries and members of the cooperative National Abalone Producers.

The two crew members were found, were rushed to receive medical attention.

To search for those still missing, it launched an operation supported by an aircraft of the State Government and other private aircraft, as well as two intercepting the Navy of Mexico and at least a dozen boats of various organizations fishing.

Although not yet confirmed, the director of Harbor Master Cedros Island, Isaac Vargas, said the accident was due to a breakdown in the boat, other versions attribute the incident to bad weather.

For his part, Secretary of Fisheries and Aquaculture, Carlos Fernandez Ruiz, reported that today continue to search for the shipwrecked, they maintain the hope of finding them alive.

He said that although not found in the state, Governor Jose Guadalupe Osuna Millan is aware of the matter and has issued instructions to keep you searching and attend to the families of missing persons.

BOX

NAME OF CREW MISSING

Juan Murillo Murillo director Nemesio Fishing in Ensenada.

Villa Ricardo Castro Font cooperative partner of Abalone Cove.

Ramona Castro Villegas cooperative partner of Abalone Cove.

Juan Carlos Ojeda cooperative partner of Abalone Cove.

Jose Castro Cervera cooperative partner Abalone.

CREW RESCUED

Victorio Antonio Moreno.

Francisco Tapia Meillon.

dtbushpilot - 3-1-2012 at 10:27 AM

Tragic.......don't know what else to say. Hope they find them.....

Five Missing After Boat Capsizes off Baja Coast

Ateo - 3-2-2012 at 10:04 AM

http://www.sandiegored.com/noticias/23048/Five-missing-after...

TIJUANA – Five men, including the Baja California’s fisheries’ chief, remain missing after their boat capsized during the storm that rolled through the region Tuesday.

“A small motor flaw” and a large wave combined to overturn the boat, according to two fishermen who were rescued.

Despite the poor weather conditions Thursday, authorities and private fishing groups continued searching for the missing men in the waters off Punta Eugenia, near the border with Baja California Sur.

Carlos Fernández, director of Baja California’s fishing and aquaculture agency, said that 30 vessels scoured the area looking for the men. He identified them as Ricardo Castro Villafuerte, Ramona Castro Villegas, José Castro Cervera, Juan Carlos Ojeda and Juan Nemesio Murillo Murillo.

Murillo is the director of the fishing for the state and had boarded the boat in Ensenada along with six fishermen on Tuesday en route to Cedros Island to attend a meeting of the national association of

abalone fishing.

On Wednesday, two of them were found clinging to the capsized boat.

An airplane and two of the association’s boats joined two planes and ships from Mexico’s navy in the searching near the coast at Punta Eugenia, located on the border with Baja California Sur, Fernández said.

In all, some 60 to 70 people plus 20 divers were participating in the search, he added.

The two fishermen who were rescued, Antonio Victorio Moreno and Francisco Tapia Mellón, described their ordeal to authorities on Thursday.

Fernández said that a combination of factors capsized the boat. First, the vessel had a small flaw in its motor but was operational.

“A little after leaving,” he said, “a wave caused by the poor weather in the area overturned the vessel.”

He said the search would continue Friday.

Woooosh - 3-2-2012 at 12:29 PM

I wonder if BajaGringo has a personal connection to this from his Abalone project.

DianaT - 3-2-2012 at 01:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I wonder if BajaGringo has a personal connection to this from his Abalone project.


Very, very sad for the families. :no::no:

From what we have heard, there has been a recent problem with the abalone at Cedros. They have monitoring equipment there and it appears there has been a lack of oxygen. Perhaps that was the reason for the meeting.

tiotomasbcs - 3-2-2012 at 02:33 PM

Punta Eugenia is just north of Tortugas, right? Diana has posted pics from a land trip there I believe. San Diego was hit hard by Tuesdays storm; Ensenada, too? Any updates? Cold waters won't allow a person to survive 24 hrs normally. Tio

rts551 - 3-2-2012 at 04:49 PM

It was very bad out there yesterday in the ocean

Woooosh - 3-2-2012 at 05:39 PM

Yo would think they could have found a better boat. "The vessel had a small flaw in its motor but was operational." Sure, you can fly a plane on one engine too I suppose.

BajaBlanca - 3-2-2012 at 08:12 PM

I just heard about this this evening from one of our co-op guys ,.... Very sad indeed..and also, it seems that none of them were wearing life jackets ???? Most of the co-op folk don't know how to swim.

Very sad.

Islandbuilder - 3-2-2012 at 10:12 PM

With the storm, and the currents in the Cedros area in opposition to the wind, it must have been pretty ugly on the water. Something as small as some fuel tank sediment plugging a filter, or some water in a fuel tank getting sucked up and plugging a jet.

When things go wrong, they become an avalanche of little things that when added one to another, become enough to kill you.

I hope the missing men are found, but with the rough seas, the cold water, no PFD's..............?

Very sad situation.

DianaT - 3-3-2012 at 09:02 AM

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Originally posted by Islandbuilder
With the storm, and the currents in the Cedros area in opposition to the wind, it must have been pretty ugly on the water. Something as small as some fuel tank sediment plugging a filter, or some water in a fuel tank getting sucked up and plugging a jet.

When things go wrong, they become an avalanche of little things that when added one to another, become enough to kill you.

I hope the missing men are found, but with the rough seas, the cold water, no PFD's..............?

Very sad situation.


It is rare around our area to see a fisherman with a PFD and when they take their families out, much of the time, the children are without PFDs, and as a man of the sea, you know how fast things can happen no matter how experienced the crew. So ver tragic. :no::no:

And tiotomasbcs, yes Punta Eugenia is n/w of Tortugas out on the point of the big hook. It is a beautiful place.

Islandbuilder - 3-3-2012 at 09:52 AM

Diana, I grew up in the era where any recognition of the risks of injury or death was viewed as weakness. No gloves when pouring concrete or working with solvents, no ear protection when using planers or in the engine room, no particle masks when sanding fiberglass......

I have some big health debts that I will be paying for soon.

So Stupid!!!

It was the same thing with PFD's and marine safety. I think that Mexican fishermen have grown up in a similar environment of denial. It's something we, and the Mexican government can do something about. We can help by bringing down children's PFD's and giving them away, and the government can help with a safety awareness campaign.

Perhaps this tragedy, and the fact that an influential fisheries related person has apparantely been lost, will be the motivation needed to at least start thinking about it.

vgabndo - 3-3-2012 at 02:29 PM

Life jackets? If one has been taught that to die is to be called home to a much better place, and that one is powerless to alter the time and place of dying, is it not the most pure demonstration of faith to deny one's children a life vest? ...to not wear one one's self? Is there no truth here?
We are generally denied the right to question such "faith".

My truth is that neither machiso nor delusion frees one of the moral obligation to MAKE a kid wear a PFD.

Back on topic...

I'm sorry for the loss of these men, but if in fact as professional stewards of the fishery they went to sea without PFDs, its a micro burst of evolution by natural selection, and that is often very sad in the short term. Thankfully, in my own experience of drowning, only the first part is bad. I hope it was the same for them. I trust that faith will do its job and sustain the families if that is their practice.

It all seems so avoidable.:fire:

[Edited on 3-3-2012 by vgabndo]

capt. mike - 3-3-2012 at 02:36 PM

sad and bad.

take your pick - lots of regs like US coastguard rules etc - or no/little guvmint oversight or interferrence and free will to judge your own situation and behavior.
it's a forever argument.
like the laws here that say no kids in back of pick up trucks when driving. Never could pass in AZ cause impossible to enforce on the reservations and hispanic communities where they [families] had one rig, a pick up truck, and 7 kids to cart around.

The sea scares me more than anything i have encountered in the skies.

Cypress - 3-3-2012 at 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
The sea scares me more than anything i have encountered in the skies.

:yes:

bacquito - 3-3-2012 at 03:06 PM

buen noticias:http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=23746

dtbushpilot - 3-3-2012 at 03:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bacquito
buen noticias:http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=23746


I'm not seeing the good news in the translation, am I missing something?

bajaguy - 3-3-2012 at 03:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bacquito
buen noticias:http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=23746





Translation from the Enenada.net article......

All were alive after dump the Mako II boat one boat less than 23 feet in length (7metros) on Board of which traveled seven people noted Pesca Secretary Carlos Fernández Ruiz to reveal part of the statements of the two survivors of the shipwreck.

According to the story of Antonio Victorio Moreno and Francisco Tapia Mellón, the survivors after the accident, seven remained clinging to the vessel pantoqueada knowing that they were close to the coast, but as they spent hours one were dropping.

Survivors point out that apparently the intention was to reach Punta Eugenia, the coast more nearby that the accident was a few kilometers from the place where they had sailed in Punta Eugenia.

This area is traveled on foot for about 60 elements of the Navy who have made long walks to review the sites where the castaways could have been dragged.

According to the Secretary for fisheries, who gave a press conference to publicize the search progress, acknowledged that as the hours pass, the chances of finding survivors are reduced.

However he clarified "although so far not found any of the missing five, it has not dropped their guard, continues the search and are hopeful"

Accompanied by the Commissioner of fisheries Ramón Corral Avila who made a tour of the entity, confirmed that they had managed to secure a helicopter of Navy or you can fly closer water and slow to find in the area.

At the same time, the Mexico Navy, who coordinated the search, has studies of flows and how coordinates the bodies moving in this region which would tend to the South, towards Bay of turtles or even to Asuncion Bay.

One of the expectations is the rapporteurship of the survivors and curricula of the Navy within search and rescue where they have studies of how they behave the bodies in this area what is different if it must vest lifeboat or if it does not, the flow of currents pulls him differently.

In this case, all were clinging to the vessel but were close to the coast and considered that they were dropping apparently to swim to the coast by what could be on beaches, rocks, cliffs or islands because they were not beaten in the boat but if they were dropping in different times

Fernández Ruiz Recordó the wreck of Erick boat angling wrecked on the shores of the Gulf of California on July 3, 2011.

Erick disaster there were people who swam up to five hours at a time and the last rescue of a person with life was 32 hours later and had the broken leg.

They finally reported that since Thursday, relatives of the disappeared have moved to Bahía Tortugas, waiting for news while the President of the FEDECOP this also in Bahía Tortugas watching needs in the area

It should be noted that this day officials will travel to the area of the wreck and interview with families of the victims.

TonyC - 3-3-2012 at 03:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I wonder if BajaGringo has a personal connection to this from his Abalone project.


Very, very sad for the families. :no::no:

From what we have heard, there has been a recent problem with the abalone at Cedros. They have monitoring equipment there and it appears there has been a lack of oxygen. Perhaps that was the reason for the meeting.


i was told from a friend who lives at Isla de Cedros, that it was a annual meeting that takes place after the end of the lobster season, also that most on that boat are from Isla with families there.

my condolence to the people of Isla, and the families of those lost at sea.

DianaT - 3-3-2012 at 04:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by TonyC
Quote:
Originally posted by DianaT
Quote:
Originally posted by Woooosh
I wonder if BajaGringo has a personal connection to this from his Abalone project.


Very, very sad for the families. :no::no:

From what we have heard, there has been a recent problem with the abalone at Cedros. They have monitoring equipment there and it appears there has been a lack of oxygen. Perhaps that was the reason for the meeting.


i was told from a friend who lives at Isla de Cedros, that it was a annual meeting that takes place after the end of the lobster season, also that most on that boat are from Isla with families there.

my condolence to the people of Isla, and the families of those lost at sea.


Thanks for that information.

Such a tragedy and what an impact it must be having on that small community. :no::no:

Maybe some made it to shore and are alive----we can hope, anyway.

[Edited on 3-3-2012 by DianaT]

bacquito - 3-4-2012 at 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
Quote:
Originally posted by bacquito
buen noticias:http://www.ensenada.net/noticias/nota.php?id=23746


My misteak, only two of the seven survived. But it is better then all seven dying. I read the first paragraph and assumed all survived.
Sorry.




Translation from the Enenada.net article......

All were alive after dump the Mako II boat one boat less than 23 feet in length (7metros) on Board of which traveled seven people noted Pesca Secretary Carlos Fernández Ruiz to reveal part of the statements of the two survivors of the shipwreck.

According to the story of Antonio Victorio Moreno and Francisco Tapia Mellón, the survivors after the accident, seven remained clinging to the vessel pantoqueada knowing that they were close to the coast, but as they spent hours one were dropping.

Survivors point out that apparently the intention was to reach Punta Eugenia, the coast more nearby that the accident was a few kilometers from the place where they had sailed in Punta Eugenia.

This area is traveled on foot for about 60 elements of the Navy who have made long walks to review the sites where the castaways could have been dragged.

According to the Secretary for fisheries, who gave a press conference to publicize the search progress, acknowledged that as the hours pass, the chances of finding survivors are reduced.

However he clarified "although so far not found any of the missing five, it has not dropped their guard, continues the search and are hopeful"

Accompanied by the Commissioner of fisheries Ramón Corral Avila who made a tour of the entity, confirmed that they had managed to secure a helicopter of Navy or you can fly closer water and slow to find in the area.

At the same time, the Mexico Navy, who coordinated the search, has studies of flows and how coordinates the bodies moving in this region which would tend to the South, towards Bay of turtles or even to Asuncion Bay.

One of the expectations is the rapporteurship of the survivors and curricula of the Navy within search and rescue where they have studies of how they behave the bodies in this area what is different if it must vest lifeboat or if it does not, the flow of currents pulls him differently.

In this case, all were clinging to the vessel but were close to the coast and considered that they were dropping apparently to swim to the coast by what could be on beaches, rocks, cliffs or islands because they were not beaten in the boat but if they were dropping in different times

Fernández Ruiz Recordó the wreck of Erick boat angling wrecked on the shores of the Gulf of California on July 3, 2011.

Erick disaster there were people who swam up to five hours at a time and the last rescue of a person with life was 32 hours later and had the broken leg.

They finally reported that since Thursday, relatives of the disappeared have moved to Bahía Tortugas, waiting for news while the President of the FEDECOP this also in Bahía Tortugas watching needs in the area

It should be noted that this day officials will travel to the area of the wreck and interview with families of the victims.

woody with a view - 3-4-2012 at 01:26 PM

a couple of kilometers is a long swim even in summer when the water is over 70 degrees. this time of year they wouldn't probably make it before succumbing to hypothermia.

if the others were found clinging to the boat (what i would have done in the sitch) it stands to reason that the others could not swim and/or were somehow disabled in the capsizing.

very sad, indeed! growing up in and around the ocean it's hard to get a grasp on someone not knowing how to swim. i think vgabndo said it well.

shari - 3-5-2012 at 10:22 AM

this tragedy has been a nightmare on so many levels. My heart goes out to the families waiting on word of their loved ones.

But this accident will definately not be in vain and has already caused changes in safety regs for the cooperativas. We were told by the vigilancia that all pangas will be checked for safety equipment like flares, life jackets and radios and fishermen will be required to wear their PFD's...we'll see.

there are helicopters scouring the coastline and navy ships as well all around Asuncion. The water is very very cold right now and I dont think one could survive in street clothes for more than a couple hours before suffering hypothermia.

shari - 3-13-2012 at 08:06 AM

finally one of the fishermen's bodies was found intact close to San Pablo so the search has been stepped up. It was thought that no bodies would be found because of the likleyhood of them being consumed by giant squid in the area. But the body was in very good condition due to the cold water. About 20 pangas just took off from here for a day of searching the area in hopes of recovering the remaining 4 bodies. The cooperativas in the area are asking for cooperation in the search.
http://www.oem.com.mx/elsudcaliforniano/notas/n2464763.htm

[Edited on 3-13-2012 by shari]

BajaGringo - 3-13-2012 at 08:17 AM

We knew one of those lost at sea and this is a great tragedy for the families and friends of those who perished. There are conflicting stories coming out as to if there were life jackets or how many there were. Also it appears they made the trip with no radio and neither of the two leading boats posted a watch on the boats following. We don't let our guys 50 meters from the shoreline without life jackets and a floating hand radio. Hopefully changes will be made to minimize the chances of this story repeating itself again.

QEPD

shari - 3-13-2012 at 08:41 AM

A tragedy of this magnitude affects many communities in the area and state as they are such close knit families...so many people have lost friends or family in this accident that could have been avoided...but such is life on the sea.

unfortunately life jackets in the hold of a panga or radios that arent in waterproof bags attached to the person dont help much when a boat quickly capsizes and people are in the water in high winds and seas...there are lots of serious questions about this tragedy like if they should have left so late in such poor weather and I'm sure the other panga operators are upset they didnt keep a closer eye on their companero. I am sure new regs will come out of this.