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G 20

akbear - 6-17-2012 at 09:30 AM

Hola, What have Nomads seen with G 20 in San Jose-San Lucas ? Here in Los Barriles I saw about 50 big buses, 50 mini buses & 20 vans headed south on Hi way 1 Fri. morning. We have also seen Marine & Federal 'copters fly overs. 2 weeks ago they were stock pilling rent-a-cans all over San Jose. Heard about $300 a night rooms if you can find them. Obama is due in on Mon.

Any other news, sightings or stories ?

:wow:

bajajudy - 6-17-2012 at 10:52 AM

We have a group of marines(fuerzas epeciales) living in one of the palapas in the soccer field in front of our place. They have two troop carriers, about 8 pick ups loaded with arms and something that looks like a bomb disposal cylinder....it has an atomic symbol on it. We have become friendly with a couple of them who do their running the same time we walk our dog. There are 10 or 12 boats in the marina. You can see big boats patrolling out a pretty good distance and there is some kind of BIG boat anchored near the Palmilla
Everywhere you look there are federales.
There were about 50 tourist vans parked along Centenario behind the Tropicana.
There were 10 buses parked in Soriana parking lot.
There is a road block at the glorieta before the big Mega circle.
I heard that they had to bring in the steps for aircraft because there were not enough here to handle all the planes
I havent ventured very far in days. Seemed like a good time to stay home!

karenintx - 6-17-2012 at 12:34 PM

At least 350 Feds are living in 12 condo buildings about 300 yards from us. There are about 20 motor coach buses, about 10 military personal transport trucks, about 5 large SUVs, a kitchen commissary, a set of soccer goals plus an outdoor area with gym equipment...great "taco de ojo"!

About 2000 yards off shore from our patio sits a large Mx military ship with a helicopter on board, several large guns that have men posted in position 24/7. An other military ship cruises between El Arco, the Pacific side then back toward Hacienda Encantada. We are just on the outer edge of the flight path for CSL airport so we get a bird's eye view (and sound) of every helicopter and plane that is landing and taking off. Lots of large military planes are coming and going. Normally we never anything, just the past few days...cheap entertainment.

Last night around 10:30 we stopped off at Wal-Mart and there at the exit was a large bus with about 30 feds in full riot gear. As we drove over the bridge my hubby (ex military pilot) said "they need a couple of of guys on the bridge." Also on the main highway at the Pemex they have traffic slowing down for both a visual and gama inspection.

All in all things are going good. A few delays here and there. Any Fed we have had contact with has been nice and polite. Hoping all of this will be a positive for Los Cabos & Mexico.

Wally - 6-17-2012 at 01:00 PM

Just back from the airport. Very busy. Two 747's parked on either ends of the field--Air China and what looked to be Turkey.

capt. mike - 6-17-2012 at 01:02 PM

they didn't need all this crap at Potsdam....bunch of overblown BS for a bunch of worthless politicos...
it's all about the vacations they get.

rack up more golf for obummer likely. am sure Michelle goes too for some sun.

SFandH - 6-17-2012 at 02:09 PM

Interesting thread. Cabo is getting some worldwide news coverage. Area Nomads, keep us informed about the unusual happenings.

danaeb - 6-17-2012 at 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by capt. mike
they didn't need all this crap at Potsdam....bunch of overblown BS for a bunch of worthless politicos...
it's all about the vacations they get.

rack up more golf for obummer likely. am sure Michelle goes too for some sun. [/quot

Overblown BS? :lol::lol::lol:

BajaBlanca - 6-17-2012 at 03:08 PM

still and all, this is really important for Mexico and ESPECIALLY BAJA's image...if they can pull this off with no major headaches, it will be a good day for Mexicanos .....

jbcoug - 6-17-2012 at 10:34 PM

I think the headaches that we should hope are avoided are the protests and violence that often accompany these global meetings. I would personally hate to see protesters and various riff raff do damage to the region and the reputation of the area. I personnally don't think much comes from gatherings such as the G20, but we have seen in cities throughout the world the violence that occurs when groups want to draw attention to themselves. I hope for a peacful, and hopefully even productive, event. The money and positive attention brought to Baja will hopefully be good for the people.

John

karenintx - 6-17-2012 at 11:05 PM

Returned home around 10:15 pm. For the last week when coming down the hill we have to pass through a gauntlet of Feds & Military. Tonight there was 4 very larger Military Ambulances and inside Feds were receiving treatment. In total about 6 agents were hooked up to IVs. Some had neck braces, bruised faces and bandages.

Anybody hear anything? We will ask around.

[Edited on 6-18-2012 by karenintx]

SFandH - 6-18-2012 at 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by karenintx
Returned home around 10:15 pm. For the last week when coming down the hill we have to pass through a gauntlet of Feds & Military. Tonight there was 4 very larger Military Ambulances and inside Feds were receiving treatment. In total about 6 agents were hooked up to IVs. Some had neck braces, bruised faces and bandages.

Anybody hear anything? We will ask around.

[Edited on 6-18-2012 by karenintx]


Gnu mentioned car/truck accidents involving security forces.

Osprey - 6-18-2012 at 05:54 AM

Don't know about Los Cabos but about a month ago there was a notice in the Baja Western Onion in Todos Santos about an OCCUPY group forming there. The police and military plan to deal with protests, protestors is to corral the bad guys between the water cannons and the sea (the beach and the sea being heavily patrolled right now). First line of defense is to keep protestors away from the whole area, hence the highway/biway inspections. The big APEC meeting here several years ago produced nothing but that was because the WTO rules and accords over ride anything these orphan charter groups decide on their own.

Only thing different this time is that somebody has told them they could make history, help solve the problems in Europe. Sounds like me loaning my last 20 bucks to my alcoholic cousin in Barstow.

Udo - 6-18-2012 at 07:09 AM

Osprey nailed it...a wise person!

I really have no idea why the protestors even bothered to show up. CABO is not the USA, and it can be guaranteed that their civil rights that they enjoy in the USA, will not be around to protect them...especially in Mexico.

Cypress - 6-18-2012 at 07:18 AM

Occupy protest? In Mexico? :biggrin:

DavidE - 6-18-2012 at 07:34 AM

I'd rather lose twenty dollars to an alcoholic cousin than have to chip-in five thousand dollars for their funeral.

There is more oil floating around today than they know what to do with. Same for natural gas. But the folks who have control over the prices must purchase the newest Lamborghini or they "just aren't with it". I love it when people fly their Rolls Royce from the middle east to England for servicing. I remember a Russian geologist being interviewed on PBS who told Jim Lehrer "According to my research, there are slightly more than four quadrillion barrels of recoverable oil just in Siberia alone. Northern Canada should be the same but of course I have not been allowed to practice my craft there". (Jim Lehrer) "Then why is oil priced so high these days if it is so common?" (Petrovisky) "Perhaps you should look at the diamond market, and how it is controlled for a clue".

SFandH - 6-18-2012 at 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by DavidE
(Jim Lehrer) "Then why is oil priced so high these days if it is so common?" (Petrovisky) "Perhaps you should look at the diamond market, and how it is controlled for a clue".


Add to that silver and gold? And oh man, uranium, now there's an interesting metal to hoard.

And the Cubans! They're sitting on a fortune of '57 Chevys.

Hardly free market stuff.

THE real reason oil is not part of one of the CPIs is that the price is controlled via collusion bewteen producers. You can't measure the health of the free market accurately if you include oil. Food too, because it is heavily gov subsidized.

[Edited on 6-18-2012 by SFandH]

karenintx - 6-18-2012 at 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by SFandH
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Originally posted by karenintx
Returned home around 10:15 pm. For the last week when coming down the hill we have to pass through a gauntlet of Feds & Military. Tonight there was 4 very larger Military Ambulances and inside Feds were receiving treatment. In total about 6 agents were hooked up to IVs. Some had neck braces, bruised faces and bandages.

Anybody hear anything? We will ask around.

[Edited on 6-18-2012 by karenintx]


Gnu mentioned car/truck accidents involving security forces.


Aware of that...but that was 14 hours earlier in the day. This looked like fresh injuries not 14 hour old wounds. You would think the injured would have been taken to local hospitals, not be given treatment in the back of an ambulance 14 hours later.

woody with a view - 6-18-2012 at 08:16 AM

hey, it's Mexico!:light:

karenintx - 6-18-2012 at 08:35 AM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
hey, it's Mexico!:light:


Yeah, guess I was thinking with logic!

SFandH - 6-18-2012 at 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by karenintx
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Originally posted by SFandH
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Originally posted by karenintx
Returned home around 10:15 pm. For the last week when coming down the hill we have to pass through a gauntlet of Feds & Military. Tonight there was 4 very larger Military Ambulances and inside Feds were receiving treatment. In total about 6 agents were hooked up to IVs. Some had neck braces, bruised faces and bandages.

Anybody hear anything? We will ask around.

[Edited on 6-18-2012 by karenintx]


Gnu mentioned car/truck accidents involving security forces.


Aware of that...but that was 14 hours earlier in the day. This looked like fresh injuries not 14 hour old wounds. You would think the injured would have been taken to local hospitals, not be given treatment in the back of an ambulance 14 hours later.


Good point, you're right. Let us know if you learn anything that's not making the national news.

Cisco - 6-18-2012 at 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by SFandH
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Originally posted by DavidE
(Jim Lehrer) "Then why is oil priced so high these days if it is so common?" (Petrovisky) "Perhaps you should look at the diamond market, and how it is controlled for a clue".


And the Cubans! They're sitting on a fortune of '57 Chevys.

[Edited on 6-18-2012 by SFandH]


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

gnukid - 6-18-2012 at 02:40 PM

Now there are protestors reported, one buddhist and some families against monstanto-it's getting hot in here.

DavidE - 6-18-2012 at 03:48 PM

Laugh on Cisco :-)

Cubans KNOW how much those old cars are worth when Cuba finally opens up. They actually brick old cars into the building when they stop running. They don't have much, but they slather on the coconut oil to protect paint.

Your dream '57 Nomad may be sitting there somewhere with a LADA 4 cylinder engine that's now running on three cylinders.

bajajudy - 6-19-2012 at 02:49 PM

We have two helicopters coming over our house every 30-45 minutes....low and loud.
Ruined my siesta:(

bajajudy - 6-19-2012 at 08:06 PM

The marines are gone.

We had 3 different groups of Chinese in today. When we got home from the beach, there was a rental in front of the store with a China Delegation sticker on the window. One group bought spy novels in English. Another bought 2 books about Baja. The others didnt buy anything....oh well

karenintx - 6-19-2012 at 09:09 PM

Yep, they are tearing down and moving out fast. No more gamma gauntlet!

Pescador - 6-20-2012 at 06:45 AM

I guess we could learn something from Mexico. Next time we host a G-20 summit and the malcontents, paid protesters, and party people looking to have a good time decide to protest violently, we just load them in a bus and haul them 200 miles away and let them "Do Their Thing".
I think the La Paz demonstration is a gas and probably had a real major impact (on something). :o

gnukid - 6-20-2012 at 09:04 AM

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Originally posted by Pescador
I guess we could learn something from Mexico. Next time we host a G-20 summit and the malcontents, paid protesters, and party people looking to have a good time decide to protest violently, we just load them in a bus and haul them 200 miles away and let them "Do Their Thing".
I think the La Paz demonstration is a gas and probably had a real major impact (on something). :o


The recent La Paz events have been peaceful, positive and well coordinated to promote basic civil society goals, schools, healthy food, transparency in government, improved projects that benefit citizens. The movement has had many names and directions, one of which is yo soy #132. This peaceful activism has been occurring for many years now, many of the people involved are mothers and school teachers.

At other political events around the world, much of the clashes of malcontents have been attributed to identifiable agent provocateurs, black bloc and occupy some of which are largely soros funded for political division to discredit citizen activism, and cause violent revolution as impetuous for world government as you have observed.

Consider the concerns average people care about versus the quite different goals of central banking cartels and world government.

[Edited on 6-20-2012 by gnukid]

David K - 6-20-2012 at 09:13 AM

Do you recall which Baja books the Chinese bought?

bajajudy - 6-20-2012 at 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Do you recall which Baja books the Chinese bought?


They bought two copies of "Los Cabos Baja California Sur, Finesterra de Los Californias"

Here is a link for more info:

http://bajabooksandmaps.com/books/LOS_CABOS_BAJA_CALIFORNIA_...