Sea Shepherd Conservation Society

Japan has acknowledged that the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society's anti-whaling efforts recently were successful in disrupting their "research" (i.e. their term for commercial whaling):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/112719256


And the Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard said she would fight the proposal for whaling to resume off South Korea:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/asian-nations-conservationists-want-to-sink-south-koreas-whale-hunt-plan/article4391268/


http://www.starfiretor.com/TheWhaleAndDolphinPeopleProject/SlaughterPhotos.htm

"Former Australian environment minister Ian Campbell told Australian television from aboard a vessel of the anti-whaling activist group Sea Shepherd that the organization would “have to get organized to go out to the oceans and save the whales off South Korea”. "

Just some "nut-job" whale-huggers I guess

What would Nomads have to say if the whalers dropped by Guerrero Negro for some "fishing"?

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Just some "nut-job" whale-huggers I guess


I guess you are right.

I support the Whale Huggers!! Go Sea Shepard!!

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Originally posted by goldhuntress I support the Whale Huggers!! Go Sea Shepard!!

I'd rather be a "tree hugger" than a "stump jumper" any day of the week.

DT,
We are still friends ?

So, do I have to eat a blubber taco when I visit?

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Originally posted by motoged DT, We are still friends ? So, do I have to eat a blubber taco when I visit?

Yes but don't worry, I won't need to kill a whale to get enough blubber

Dang Ralph, you are quick today! This is definitely one of those, "Why didn't I say that moments?" Abreojos must produce clearer thinking.

Cisco, I think we would agree pretty well on most of these issues. Or at least able discuss them

[Edited on 7-5-2012 by DianaT]

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Originally posted by dtbushpilot Quote: Originally posted by motoged DT, We are still friends ? So, do I have to eat a blubber taco when I visit? Yes but don't worry, I won't need to kill a whale to get enough blubber

David,

OUCH... ....

but I might miss that part of my anatomy....

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Originally posted by motoged Quote: Originally posted by dtbushpilot Quote: Originally posted by motoged DT, We are still friends ? So, do I have to eat a blubber taco when I visit? Yes but don't worry, I won't need to kill a whale to get enough blubber David, OUCH... .... but I might miss that part of my anatomy....

Don't worry, I was referring to your ample gut, I don't know any other part of your anatomy big enough for a meal

David,
Yeah, I got that reference....





and not my....

On a more intelligent level....

http://www.wimp.com/futureours/


2 minutes of your time....

Great Ged... Yes, it is true... or maybe I should say it can be true... the past 3-4 years has seen such a decline in this nation's hopes and aspirations I just hope we can get back on course.

fish

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Originally posted by David K Great Ged... Yes, it is true... or maybe I should say it can be true... the past 3-4 years has seen such a decline in this nation's hopes and aspirations I just hope we can get back on course.

I gotta say as just yer every day nomad this has been a cool and interesting thread with both sides stating their views in pretty much a civilized, mature, and respectful manner.

What the hell is wrong with you people????

Ya....get yer sushi while ya can...

Absolutely --- it is all about the planet that we all share, but maybe with a New House of Representatives in the US, we can join with other countries who are understand that we share this planet and are concerned. The current leadership in the House is controlled by their wacko fringe who would like to do away with all regulations, including the EPA. And they really don't give a rip about the rest of the world -- it all about the USA.

Thus, since the US is a major player in pollution, consumption, and power, having our House run by people who believe in science might just help.

From what I gather, if we don't elect democrats to house seats the planet is doomed. Those nasty 'ole republicans don't care about the environment or believe in science. Yep, democrats will solve all our problems.

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Originally posted by Cypress From what I gather, if we don't elect democrats to house seats the planet is doomed. Those nasty 'ole republicans don't care about the environment or believe in science. Yep, democrats will solve all our problems.

Those are fighting words!! LOL

spoken like a true ignoramus! congratulations on your ignorance!

With the depletion of the whale's food supply, the harvesting of some species might not be a bad thing. They may well be faced with a serious food shortage. Man's increasing harvest of krill, their source of food, puts us in direct competion with whales.

come on, how can you not adore these bumbling fools?

willardguy, Good point!

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Originally posted by willardguy come on, how can you not adore these bumbling fools?

Cisco, The "slippery slope" is a downhill slide. "Ox-Bow" mentality? That's a new one! Lynch-mob? That one's pretty much worn out. See anything south of the Mason-Dixon line that is in opposition to the current US administration.

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Originally posted by Cypress With the depletion of the whale's food supply, the harvesting of some species might not be a bad thing. They may well be faced with a serious food shortage. Man's increasing harvest of krill, their source of food, puts us in direct competion with whales.

Only because they aren't on our grocery list.

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Originally posted by mtgoat666 Quote: Originally posted by jbcoug I hope a number of the above posters don't fish or consume sealife, otherwise we have a lot of hypocracy going on. John spoken like a true ignoramus! congratulations on your ignorance!

I think motoged is right on. Look at satilite photos of the earth and see how the giant developed areas look grey, and dead, like a cancer on a living cell. That's us folks. I don't think we have much longer, in geologic time.

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Originally posted by watizname Quote: Originally posted by motoged Quote: Originally posted by DianaT..... --- I am a rather confused believer in situational ethics. I say confused because of so many questions in my mind. [Edited on 7-5-2012 by DianaT] Diana, One benefit of being confused is that it opens up more possibilities....being "certain" about something reduces one's options. I think that we, as a species, are a virus on this planet....it is all unfolding as it is. If we were to consider ourselves to be parasites (perhaps more generous a thought than being a virus), we still aren't even at the stage of being in a symbiotic relationship as a parasite, as both the host (ie. the planet) and the parasite have mutual benefit in that type of parasitic relationship. We just suck vitality and viability from our host....and what is most obscene, is that we think we are entitled to that sucking. I think motoged is right on. Look at satilite photos of the earth and see how the giant developed areas look grey, and dead, like a cancer on a living cell. That's us folks. I don't think we have much longer, in geologic time.

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Originally posted by gnukid Quote: Originally posted by watizname Quote: Originally posted by motoged Quote: Originally posted by DianaT..... --- I am a rather confused believer in situational ethics. I say confused because of so many questions in my mind. [Edited on 7-5-2012 by DianaT] Diana, One benefit of being confused is that it opens up more possibilities....being "certain" about something reduces one's options. I think that we, as a species, are a virus on this planet....it is all unfolding as it is. If we were to consider ourselves to be parasites (perhaps more generous a thought than being a virus), we still aren't even at the stage of being in a symbiotic relationship as a parasite, as both the host (ie. the planet) and the parasite have mutual benefit in that type of parasitic relationship. We just suck vitality and viability from our host....and what is most obscene, is that we think we are entitled to that sucking. I think motoged is right on. Look at satilite photos of the earth and see how the giant developed areas look grey, and dead, like a cancer on a living cell. That's us folks. I don't think we have much longer, in geologic time. Can you people get a grip on yourselves? Humans are a life form like any other, they are not evil nor do humans suck imperatively. When people build cities to live in they do so because it meets the needs of society, people living in cities is more efficient and uses less space and resources. The fact that cities are built of cement and are grey doesn't make them inherently bad. Nor is countryside somehow always better. The truth is humans are a species and have every right and reason to make things, eat things, produce waste and to live. Cows, fish, and insects are no different. Certainly you would agree living inside a beehive, or ant hill or bat cave may seem claustrophobic but it serves the needs of the organism. The idea that people are bad because they exist is purely a false idea designed to produce guilt and use that guilt to oppress people. The idea of Gaia, Agenda 21 and Anthopogenic Global Warming are demonstratable to be false, their roots are well documented as purely social ideas to control people. Whereas the truth is organisms do come and go, they do become extinct always in every case. The idea that people should die or be restricted so that an near extinct animal can live or so that one persons idea of society can be cut from anothers existence is pure nonsense based in beliefs not in any science nor beneficial practice. It was Malthus who promoted the idea that human population would grow faster than food production and that humans would die due to lack of resources. Malthus was wrong, we have the ability to produce as much or more food than we need. Except that the current UN and USA admin still quotes and claims to believe in Malthus and his ideas are promoted by Holdren et al under Obama. The truth is people do not suck, they are not a plague, people are beautiful just like flowers or birds. The thing that sucks is war, aggression, the endless death toll wrought by US military against civilians all for profit for the military industrial complex. But instead of being brave enough to say that we are all responsible for the endless terror, torture and rape by the US military, you have cowards here blaming people for living in a city as a form of evil? Take a moment and turn off the TV and perhaps using pen and paper start writing down your priorities, make columns for pro and con and jot down reasons why you think humans suck vs. other organisms. Try to identify what really sucks, what is absurd and what mechanisms are really harmful. Then try to give reasons to support your ideas. Perhaps using this method you will come to different conclusions than the idea that people are bad. Whats bad is hierarchical systems that promote oppression of one over another, especially those that use violence and aggression to profit. [Edited on 7-7-2012 by gnukid]

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Originally posted by rdrrm8e Quote: Originally posted by willardguy come on, how can you not adore these bumbling fools? Perfect....! Only Paul is much more dangerous

separated at birth!!!!

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Originally posted by gnukid Quote: Originally posted by watizname Quote: Originally posted by motoged Quote: Originally posted by DianaT..... --- I am a rather confused believer in situational ethics. I say confused because of so many questions in my mind. [Edited on 7-5-2012 by DianaT] Diana, One benefit of being confused is that it opens up more possibilities....being "certain" about something reduces one's options. I think that we, as a species, are a virus on this planet....it is all unfolding as it is. If we were to consider ourselves to be parasites (perhaps more generous a thought than being a virus), we still aren't even at the stage of being in a symbiotic relationship as a parasite, as both the host (ie. the planet) and the parasite have mutual benefit in that type of parasitic relationship. We just suck vitality and viability from our host....and what is most obscene, is that we think we are entitled to that sucking. I think motoged is right on. Look at satilite photos of the earth and see how the giant developed areas look grey, and dead, like a cancer on a living cell. That's us folks. I don't think we have much longer, in geologic time. Can you people get a grip on yourselves? Humans are a life form like any other, they are not evil nor do humans suck imperatively. When people build cities to live in they do so because it meets the needs of society, people living in cities is more efficient and uses less space and resources. The fact that cities are built of cement and are grey doesn't make them inherently bad. Nor is countryside somehow always better. The truth is humans are a species and have every right and reason to make things, eat things, produce waste and to live. Cows, fish, and insects are no different. Certainly you would agree living inside a beehive, or ant hill or bat cave may seem claustrophobic but it serves the needs of the organism. The idea that people are bad because they exist is purely a false idea designed to produce guilt and use that guilt to oppress people. The idea of Gaia, Agenda 21 and Anthopogenic Global Warming are demonstratable to be false, their roots are well documented as purely social ideas to control people. Whereas the truth is organisms do come and go, they do become extinct always in every case. The idea that people should die or be restricted so that an near extinct animal can live or so that one persons idea of society can be cut from anothers existence is pure nonsense based in beliefs not in any science nor beneficial practice. It was Malthus who promoted the idea that human population would grow faster than food production and that humans would die due to lack of resources. Malthus was wrong, we have the ability to produce as much or more food than we need. Except that the current UN and USA admin still quotes and claims to believe in Malthus and his ideas are promoted by Holdren et al under Obama. The truth is people do not suck, they are not a plague, people are beautiful just like flowers or birds. The thing that sucks is war, aggression, the endless death toll wrought by US military against civilians all for profit for the military industrial complex. But instead of being brave enough to say that we are all responsible for the endless terror, torture and rape by the US military, you have cowards here blaming people for living in a city as a form of evil? Take a moment and turn off the TV and perhaps using pen and paper start writing down your priorities, make columns for pro and con and jot down reasons why you think humans suck vs. other organisms. Try to identify what really sucks, what is absurd and what mechanisms are really harmful. Then try to give reasons to support your ideas. Perhaps using this method you will come to different conclusions than the idea that people are bad. Whats bad is hierarchical systems that promote oppression of one over another, especially those that use violence and aggression to profit. [Edited on 7-7-2012 by gnukid]

Whale "accidently' caught auctioned off for $57,000

http://www.smh.com.au/world/hopes-sink-with-seouls-scientifi...

It makes sense to me to make it illegal to sell these animals.

[Edited on 7-7-2012 by SFandH]

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Originally posted by gnukid Quote: Originally posted by watizname Quote: Originally posted by motoged Quote: Originally posted by DianaT..... --- I am a rather confused believer in situational ethics. I say confused because of so many questions in my mind. [Edited on 7-5-2012 by DianaT] Diana, One benefit of being confused is that it opens up more possibilities....being "certain" about something reduces one's options. I think that we, as a species, are a virus on this planet....it is all unfolding as it is. If we were to consider ourselves to be parasites (perhaps more generous a thought than being a virus), we still aren't even at the stage of being in a symbiotic relationship as a parasite, as both the host (ie. the planet) and the parasite have mutual benefit in that type of parasitic relationship. We just suck vitality and viability from our host....and what is most obscene, is that we think we are entitled to that sucking. I think motoged is right on. Look at satilite photos of the earth and see how the giant developed areas look grey, and dead, like a cancer on a living cell. That's us folks. I don't think we have much longer, in geologic time. Can you people get a grip on yourselves? Humans are a life form like any other, they are not evil nor do humans suck imperatively. When people build cities to live in they do so because it meets the needs of society, people living in cities is more efficient and uses less space and resources. The fact that cities are built of cement and are grey doesn't make them inherently bad. Nor is countryside somehow always better. The truth is humans are a species and have every right and reason to make things, eat things, produce waste and to live. Cows, fish, and insects are no different. Certainly you would agree living inside a beehive, or ant hill or bat cave may seem claustrophobic but it serves the needs of the organism. The idea that people are bad because they exist is purely a false idea designed to produce guilt and use that guilt to oppress people. The idea of Gaia, Agenda 21 and Anthopogenic Global Warming are demonstratable to be false, their roots are well documented as purely social ideas to control people. Whereas the truth is organisms do come and go, they do become extinct always in every case. The idea that people should die or be restricted so that an near extinct animal can live or so that one persons idea of society can be cut from anothers existence is pure nonsense based in beliefs not in any science nor beneficial practice. It was Malthus who promoted the idea that human population would grow faster than food production and that humans would die due to lack of resources. Malthus was wrong, we have the ability to produce as much or more food than we need. Except that the current UN and USA admin still quotes and claims to believe in Malthus and his ideas are promoted by Holdren et al under Obama. The truth is people do not suck, they are not a plague, people are beautiful just like flowers or birds. The thing that sucks is war, aggression, the endless death toll wrought by US military against civilians all for profit for the military industrial complex. But instead of being brave enough to say that we are all responsible for the endless terror, torture and rape by the US military, you have cowards here blaming people for living in a city as a form of evil? Take a moment and turn off the TV and perhaps using pen and paper start writing down your priorities, make columns for pro and con and jot down reasons why you think humans suck vs. other organisms. Try to identify what really sucks, what is absurd and what mechanisms are really harmful. Then try to give reasons to support your ideas. Perhaps using this method you will come to different conclusions than the idea that people are bad. Whats bad is hierarchical systems that promote oppression of one over another, especially those that use violence and aggression to profit. [Edited on 7-7-2012 by gnukid]

Gnukid----------"AMEN" is right!!!

Gnukid, that is a brilliant & concise 'piece' you have written there. Congratulations, and thank you.

Barry

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Originally posted by Cypress From what I gather, if we don't elect democrats to house seats the planet is doomed. Those nasty 'ole republicans don't care about the environment or believe in science. Yep, democrats will solve all our problems.

Flynn Effect

"Furthermore, population isn't growing exponentially, it's unclear that is growing at all as we see in all developing countries population is decreasing. The overall population is currently stable and many if not most countries are losing population as a product of births per family."

i remember being a kid when the news made a big deal out of the 2 billionth human dropping onto planet Earth.

anyone know what the number is now-a-days?

edit: answer= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population



[Edited on 7-8-2012 by woody with a view]