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Getting a Boat from California to La paz

capitolkat - 7-6-2012 at 12:04 PM

I've been looking for about 6 months for a boat to bring to La paz. I'm getting close and have three 30' boats ready to select from. I now need to know about several things:

1. Anyone know some one who is insured and dependable to tow the boat from Orange County to La Paz? Name and number would be appreciated so I can get a quote and references.
2. Insurance for the boat here in La paz. it will either be in the water at a marina or on a trailer at the marina for launching so no trailering around after it arrives. Do I need insurance for the boat for loss on the water plus a separate policy for out of the water when it might be moved.
3. I have Baja Bound for my cars- I understand it does no cover the boat and trailer when being towed?? is that correct?
4. Anything esle I might need to consider-- I know about the importing part and will do so when the boat arrives.

Thanks-- Norm

Moving your boat

Lengua - 7-6-2012 at 12:34 PM

Norm , you need to find someone you trust and someone that has done it countless times. Someone here on the board might have a good reccomendation but you need to check them out .
I moved our Grady White from Portland Oregon to Loreto and last month took it from Loreto to La Paz.
If you decide to do it , go easy ,always be looking ahead and don't be in a hurry .

Thats my two cents.

Mike

Towing

Lengua - 7-6-2012 at 12:36 PM

Norm , I just came across the -there based out of La Paz.


Mike


posted on 6-28-2012 at 07:20 AM

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Cypress - 7-6-2012 at 12:53 PM

Run that baby down yourself! All you need is fuel, and a chart or two.;D

capitolkat - 7-6-2012 at 01:51 PM

Cypress-- It's a big boat and while I have a Suburban 2500 with tow package I really don't think I'm cleared for the 900+ miles from the border. The grades down to Santa Rosalia and Mulege are something I think I would rather have someone who does it professionally handle. I drive the route a couple of time a year and like Eastwood says " A man needs to know his limitations".
:spingrin:
Anyone have thougths on the insurance questions.

Cypress - 7-6-2012 at 01:59 PM

capitolkat, Not talking about hauling it down on a trailer. Run it down on the water. Launch it and haul ass!:yes:

comitan - 7-6-2012 at 02:59 PM

Launch in San Felipe cruise south have a wonderful safe adventure,!!!!!

capitolkat - 7-6-2012 at 03:25 PM

You guys are not helping-- I've had adventures and 10 days on a boat is not what I had in mind....

dtbushpilot - 7-6-2012 at 03:26 PM

Joe Neal
J&L Marine Services
619-224-4495

I considered using him to tow my 26' Blackman down to Buena Vista but decided to tow it down myself. They have the option of towing it on your trailer or theirs. Joe replied quickly to my inquiry and his rates seemed reasonable......dt

comitan - 7-6-2012 at 03:33 PM

You will have a greater adventure and more worry having a 30 ft boat pulled down that highway.:o:o:o

Cypress - 7-6-2012 at 03:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by capitolkat
You guys are not helping-- I've had adventures and 10 days on a boat is not what I had in mind....

What do you have in mind?:biggrin:

Hook - 7-6-2012 at 03:55 PM

Forget about towing in Baja. Cross at Nogales, AZ and launch at San Carlos, Sonora. Literally two lanes in each direction all the way down. Great launch ramp. Then head straight for Puerto Escondido, south of Loreto, fuel up there and you're in La Paz by mid day, the next day. O'night at Escondido or Agua Verde. Escondido is about 130 nm from San Carlos. Or, you could cross to Santa Rosalia (80 nm) and then hug the coast down to Escondido. Fuel available in Santa Rosalia.

The Grossman family business is once again towing boats from the States into Mexico. I am not sure if you have to have your own trailer. They had stopped for a time; not sure why. They own Marina San Carlos and Marina Seca here in San Carlos.

The person to call is Mario and he can be reached at 622-226-1061. So, I think from the States it would be 011-52-622-226-1061.

What's your beam? I hope there is no tuna tower on it.

capitolkat - 7-6-2012 at 04:22 PM

Hook-- beam is 9'5"-- no tuna tower-- I contacted the service out of La Paz- they say I might need a wide load lead car in CA to the border-- God the guy selling the boat has had it since 2007 when new on a trailer and garages it and tows it accross LA to the marina every time he launches it-- no tow lead car-- this is becoming complicated. if I launch in San Carlos- where does the trailer go -- what happens to the tow vehicle?

comitan - 7-6-2012 at 04:28 PM

When you get to La Paz, take the bus back and drive the tow car and trailer back to La Paz.

Hook - 7-6-2012 at 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by capitolkat
Hook-- beam is 9'5"-- no tuna tower-- I contacted the service out of La Paz- they say I might need a wide load lead car in CA to the border-- God the guy selling the boat has had it since 2007 when new on a trailer and garages it and tows it accross LA to the marina every time he launches it-- no tow lead car-- this is becoming complicated. if I launch in San Carlos- where does the trailer go -- what happens to the tow vehicle?


Well, since you have a trailer that you want to keep with the boat in La Paz (lots of 30 foot boat owners dont have trailers), the San Carlos option isnt very practical.

Although, you might be able to have someone put the trailer and the tow vehicle on the ferry to Santa Rosalia. That would probably cost around 600.00 US. Then you meet the trailer and tow vehicle in Santa Rosalia after you cross with the boat. That puts you below the SR grade. Fairly easy drive from there.

Electric brakes on the trailer?

When you thinking about doing this? Chubasco season is upon us. Where in CA is the boat NOW?

I wouldnt worry too much about the lead car thing. People tow that width all the time w/o it. Not sure if it's legal or not.

Hook - 7-6-2012 at 05:06 PM

I'm checking on another option, Kat. A friend of mine just sold his 28 Topaz and the new owners are having it shipped to San Carlos and then they are cruising it down to the East Cape area. I'm trying to get the name of the company and contact info. I dont think they own a trailer.

In this case, you could drive the trailer down to SR, cross on the ferry or plane (only about 100.00 US) and boat back to SR. PUt it on the trailer and off you go.

I know this all sounds complex but there isnt much I wouldnt do, to avoid towing a 30 x 9.5 boat down Baja.

[Edited on 7-7-2012 by Hook]

Hook

captkw - 7-6-2012 at 06:37 PM

HOLA,,I have never seen electric brakes on a boat trailer !!

Hook - 7-6-2012 at 07:40 PM

OK.

You still owe me a Volvo raw water pump story.

"A-FIRM"

captkw - 7-6-2012 at 07:41 PM


chumlee57 - 7-6-2012 at 08:06 PM

I had my 35' RV towed yesterday, landed today at 5pm to Punta Chivato, here's the stuff you need to have covered. #1 the driver of the tow vehicle must have full coverage ( if you want full coverage ) #2 driver must have a US drivers license and current Insurance, US registration, etc. #3 you must send them with the origanal registration ( no copies ) and a written document stating you are authorizing them to borrow your product ( for fun, vacation, whatever ) I am new to this board and have been looking for this type of info for a couple months, had to figure this out on my own, as I did not want to purchase a vehicle for a one way trip to BCS. I have two very dependable people, one a US citizen, One a mexican citizen from TJ that work together, I would not broadcast their names on this board without talking with them first, but i will check your response and see if this is something you would like to pursue. Its a tough call in Mex, you hear all sorts of nightmares, these guys are good and did exactly what I asked of them.

Jack Swords - 7-7-2012 at 07:04 AM

Hook is right on. If you drive down to Nogales, then to San Carlos, you can launch from there and cross over to Conception Bay. Grossmans will store your trailer and truck for later pickup. From Conception Bay down to La Paz you can anchor each night in safe coves. It will not take two weeks, but more enjoyable if you do. Once in La Paz you can get a flight back to Guaymas (San Carlos) pick up the trailer and truck, drive back to CA or later drive them down to La Paz with out the boat. If you wait until October, weather is calmer (like a lake), but better make reservations with marinas in La Paz as that starts the busy season. We did this once in February and had a very enjoyable time, and the boat is still in La Paz. Being able to stop at an anchorage each night and walk on the beach is preferable to the Pacific side.

Hook - 7-7-2012 at 11:34 AM

OK, the firm that my friend is using happens to be the same one recommended above by dtbushpilot. You do not have to have a trailer. He tows it on his own special trailer but he will not dunk it in salt water, so you would need a sling.........and there is one in San Carlos.

I have a cell phone for him, Joe Neal or Neil at J & L Marine Services. 619-571-7337.

[Edited on 7-7-2012 by Hook]

Hook - 7-7-2012 at 11:37 AM

BTW, I'm willing to assist you in any logistics, in and around, San Carlos and Guaymas BUT I will be leaving for NOB by August 1, maybe a bit earlier.

captain4tuna - 7-7-2012 at 03:31 PM

Contact Mike kusler....
Kusler Yachts, Inc toll-free at (866) 607-5471 or info@kusleryachts.com.

If he can't help you, he'll refer you to someone who will.......He will be able to answer all of your questions as he has tremendous experience bringing boats down.......

Good Luck.......

Pescador - 7-7-2012 at 04:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
HOLA,,I have never seen electric brakes on a boat trailer !!


And you have been around boats how long? They are required standard equipment on a certain weight. You have been stuck on the East Cape how long.

capitolkat - 7-7-2012 at 06:39 PM

Thanks everyone-- looks like I have lot so options-- now I just have to nail down the deal on the boat. It's looking cheaper and a lot less hassle to have the seller tow to the border and have it picked up at Otay Mesa and two days later it's in La Paz.. Thanks again-- Norm

question ?

captkw - 7-7-2012 at 07:35 PM

before you buy that boat ...what is your plans for said boat ??

RnR - 7-7-2012 at 09:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pescador
Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
HOLA,,I have never seen electric brakes on a boat trailer !!


And you have been around boats how long? They are required standard equipment on a certain weight. You have been stuck on the East Cape how long.


You are both right.

Brakes are required on trailers over 1,000 lbs in some states and over 3,000 lbs in other states. (And every weight in between, varies by the state).

Boat trailers usually have hydraulic brakes, not electric brakes. The electric brakes that travel trailers have do not function well after being submerged during launching. Boat trailers have a hydraulic cylinder located in the trailer tongue that actuates the brakes.

capitolkat - 7-8-2012 at 11:02 AM

captkw= Well it's a fishing boat and I plan to fish-- I've got a partner in the states who will come down about every other month for 4-5 days and I'll probably go out once or twice a week. There are numerous marinas here that have space and we haven't decided wheter to slip it or launch from a trailer and dry dock. I've been through the cost benefit analysis so not looking for advice there- my wife has given me enough advice even thoguh she loves to boat and fish.
;)
Any particular reason for your question?