BajaNomad

Animal abuse

bajachris - 7-23-2012 at 04:10 PM

Normally I have to turn my head quite a bit at animal abuse in Mexico, but I am really sick of these people. When you make the sharp turn at Mama Espinosa's there is a store right at the corner. They sell construction material. They have 2 dogs tied on short chains 24/7, in hot sun. Chains are so heavy around their necks it wore off all the hair around their necks. Chains a big around as my wrist. No water either. And of course, not sure when they are fed. I filled a bucket and they drank water for like 10-15 minutes. These people make me sick. If I didn't have my dog with me, at least one of them would have been in the car with me. Where is PETA when you need them? When asked why they couldn't let the dogs loose once in while they said they would get run over. Think they would be better off....

MMc - 7-23-2012 at 04:23 PM

WELCOME BACK DUDE!!! I missed you.

baja chris

captkw - 7-23-2012 at 04:25 PM

Hola, I hope someone in the area says a polite word with the people and I use that word lightly with a/holes that would keep a animal in such a condition..good on you for the water..I keep extra D food/water.leash's in my car and always seem to find lost/stray dogs wherever I go.. K & T:cool: GOD=DOG

DavidE - 7-23-2012 at 04:49 PM

I was thirsty and halfway between Acapulco and Puerto Escondido. Suddenly a gasolinera appeared on my left. I pulled in. A very rural station with a very large (and empty) market attached. I fuel up and went into the store.

I saw the row of glass cooler doors way back in the far corner, so I headed there. The things were at room temperature and empty, so I headed back to the cash register to ask the lady where the cold water was kept.

Suddenly something grabbed my bare leg, hard! I was wearing shorts. I looked down. Wire brush grade bristle fur grated against my skin. It was an anteater! On a chain! It may sound hilarious but the little SOB had a nasty looking expression and four inch claws. The squeeze was as tight as would be expected from a large and very muscular man. The pressure on my calf was tremendous. This was not a "pet-me-now" encounter.

I had to think fast or suffer the consequences of those grizzly grade claws. That thing could shred flesh to the bone. I knew it and he certainly did.

I reached to my right, grabbed a can of diced tomatoes, and threw it hand grenade style over my head and left shoulder. It clattered up a small cranny. The anteater released me, and went after the noise. I hauled a$$. I marched up to the cash register.

'¿Por qué un oso hormiguero cabreado acaba de agarrar la pierna? En su tienda tiene un oso hormiguero?

"Why did a peeed-off anteater on a chain just grab my leg? What is an anteater doing in your store?

"Señor!" she replied indignantly, "Where else are we going to keep him?"

LOL

captkw - 7-23-2012 at 04:59 PM

:lol::coolup:

DavidE - 7-23-2012 at 06:21 PM

If you want to cause one hell of a lot of resentment, chew out a Mexican for animal cruelty. When I had the luxury of enough room to travel with a dog, we were such pals that people couldn't help but notice that a dog was something more to kick and throw rocks at. If I was in Bajachris' shoes I would have done exactly the same thing. Things are changing slowly but surely. It has been a number of years since I have seen a Ixcuintla (spelling varies), a Mexican hairless dog, bred and raised for eating. About the size of a small lab. Ugly as sin.

[img]http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images9/XoloitzcuintliCaminosFridaKahlo1.jpg/[img]

david

captkw - 7-23-2012 at 06:36 PM

Hola, things ARE changing for the better in regard to anamals,but slow!! I dont think your pic posted right..K & T

Marc - 7-23-2012 at 07:06 PM

Mexicans are notorious animal abusers.
In the book Gods Middle Finger, the author vividly describes how dogs are typically treated.

[Edited on 7-24-2012 by Marc]

[Edited on 7-24-2012 by Marc]

DavidE - 7-23-2012 at 07:26 PM

No matter what, I am still a real sucker when it comes to dogs. I can only pray one does not adopt me.

Yeah, I'm going to give up on the image import bit. The dog was definetly ugly enough to import. What a shame.

Katiejay99 - 7-24-2012 at 05:00 AM

Two weeks ago a friend of mine on Facebook was complaining about her 15 yr old dog who brought home a little kitten. She doesn't like cats (her words) and was asking if someone would adopt it. We all commented that the cat belonged to Louie, not her. She relented. The dog and cat were inseparable, eating and sleeping together. Yesterday Louie died of old age. Maybe the cat really was for her.....

bajaguy - 7-24-2012 at 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by Katiejay99
Two weeks ago a friend of mine on Facebook was complaining about her 15 yr old dog who brought home a little kitten. She doesn't like cats (her words) and was asking if someone would adopt it. We all commented that the cat belonged to Louie, not her. She relented. The dog and cat were inseparable, eating and sleeping together. Yesterday Louie died of old age. Maybe the cat really was for her.....





Louie knew it was time.............

bajachris - 7-24-2012 at 09:52 PM

I try and show by example how great and devoted a dog can be when we'll cared for. My moto is treat humans and animals well. But if someone was to walk off with one of these pups I wouldn't t be heart broken ( by accident).

capn.sharky - 7-26-2012 at 11:21 AM

I too, have noticed that the treatment of animals is getting better in Baja. 40 years ago it was really bad. Animal abuse is caused by ignorance of the part of the Mexicans. Now we have a better educated class so the treatment is somewhat better. Wife beating is getting better too. This is due to the women fighting back now. There are some big girls in Baja. So, what do you think about rooster fighting? I don't go as I think it is cruel. But, those of us that fish will whack a dodo or jurel on the head to kill it. Does that make us cruel???

Mulegena - 7-26-2012 at 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by capn.sharky
Wife beating is getting better too. This is due to the women fighting back now. There are some big girls in Baja.




Sharky, that was snarky-- and quite off-base and off-color and just plain wrong.

If spousal abuse is becoming less frequent I believe its because of a heightened awareness in the country of equal rights.This is culturally across the board and is recognized by both men and women.

The "ejercicios de su derechos" is promoted across the country by the federal government.

Now, back to the topic of the thread, capn.sharky; its ANIMAL ABUSE!!

durrelllrobert - 7-26-2012 at 07:22 PM

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It has been a number of years since I have seen a Ixcuintla (spelling varies), a Mexican hairless dog, bred and raised for eating. About the size of a small lab. Ugly as sin.


Here's the picture (I don't think it's ugly):

There's a town named after that dog :
http://www.moon.com/destinations/puerto-vallarta/the-nayarit...
Few Mexican town names are more intriguing than the name Ixcuintla. Its name derives from the Náhuatl (Aztec) word for the nearly hairless dogs that, in ancient times, were bred locally as pets and for food. Don’t miss seeing the dogs, now a whole family, at the Centro Cultural Huichol, donated by Nayarit Governor Huberto Delgado a few years back.

Mulegena - 7-27-2012 at 07:14 AM

There's a fellow in Santa Rosalia who raises little hairless Chihuahuas.
They are so ugly they're almost cute. Almost.

He also raises birds, all kinds: chickens, finches, canaries, and a few species of exotics.
He specializes in white finches.

He's very, very good to his animals, btw. His house and yard are clean, animals well-fed.
His personal dogs adore him. He talks to them and they actually understand him-- amazing guy!

DavidE - 7-27-2012 at 08:50 AM

Almost all Ixcuintla dogs I had seen in Baja California were fat or should I say fattened, and not lean and trim like the one in the image. Hairless except for a ridge running down the spine.

The man who owned Tapiceria Anita on Calle Delante in Ensenada boasted his Ixcuintla was going to be roasted soon and a few months later when I returned and asked about the dog, he licked his lips. Another ixcuintla raiser was a man who lived very near to the wrecking yard south of Sta Rosalia.

In the mountains of Oaxaca, I lived very near to a village by the name of Xscoba (Zapoteco for broom). I had adopted a chihuahua puppy and gave it a name "Antojito". Only some of the residents spoke Ingles, so the name had to be translated by a bi-lingual neighbor. The women laughed until tears came and the men grinned and frequently offered me a hit of local mescál. I couldn't keep the dog, and I sure as heck wasn't going to just "leave" Antojito is that area. An expat French lady took him and from what I could gather in the weeks afterward this dog migrated from paradise to cloud 9. Gemma, the lady made Antojito a doggie bed for winter, using a heated electric pad.

mes1952 - 7-28-2012 at 09:37 AM

The Catholic Church, the largest corporation in the world, has condoned animal violence in ther form of bullfighting, c-ckfighting, etc. so is it any wonder this culture has not changed?
You'll find the more progressive areas of Mexico City, Guadalajara, etc. are more concerned with animal welfare than the wild west areas of Baja and Texas/Arizona border cities. which continue to promote the major image and are also the major conduits for drug transport.
The city of Rosarito just passed an animal cruelty law but that will take time to reducate the culture.

BajaNomad - 7-28-2012 at 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by DavidE
Almost all Ixcuintla dogs I had seen in Baja California were fat or should I say fattened, and not lean and trim


A Xolo spotted in Tijuana:




;D


Xoloitzcuintli breed:
http://www.dog-breed-facts.com/Breeds/xolo.html
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/xoloitzcuintle.htm
http://www.xolo.com/dogblog/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Hairless_Dog



Mexican Primera Division soccer in Tijuana:
http://xolos.com.mx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_Tijuana


BajaBlanca - 7-28-2012 at 12:47 PM

I have gotten myself in toruble speaking to dog owners here ... they DO leave dogs in the sun with no water

:fire:

now the other day I saw a horse in the sun with no water. how long can they stay in the desert sun ? do they need water like dogs do (I assume so but do not know) ?

Barry A. - 7-28-2012 at 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I have gotten myself in toruble speaking to dog owners here ... they DO leave dogs in the sun with no water

:fire:

now the other day I saw a horse in the sun with no water. how long can they stay in the desert sun ? do they need water like dogs do (I assume so but do not know) ?


Yes, and lots of it!!!! Contact Bo Derrick and she will take care of it.

Seriously, it's appalling to leave animals without water, etc...

Barry