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Mulege-tips?

QUETZALCOATL - 8-3-2012 at 06:58 AM

Can anyone tell me about Mulege for example what the crime rate is,cost of living ect...It looks like a beautiful town but so didnt Rosarito when I lived there but after 911 it bacame a combat zone.My daughter lives in Cabo but to me it seems real estate there is expensive.Any way thank you and enjoy your day.

Pescador - 8-3-2012 at 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by QUETZALCOATL
Can anyone tell me about Mulege for example what the crime rate is,cost of living ect...It looks like a beautiful town but so didnt Rosarito when I lived there but after 911 it bacame a combat zone.My daughter lives in Cabo but to me it seems real estate there is expensive.Any way thank you and enjoy your day.


Well, if you are interested, you need to come and visit and make your own impression. The lifestyle is certainly much different than Cabo ( like the difference between Night and Day). For me, the area is a little heavy on tourists, but some find that a plus. I spend quite a lot of time there but choose to live in a smaller village. Nice restaurants that represent a good value and not an overpriced experience. Ray's in the Valley and Scotty's El Candil are two of our favorites.

It is certainly different that Baja California and has a whole different flavor. Petty crime is usually your biggest concern but you learn to put things away and that usually keeps them from "walking" away.

The people are very friendly and warm. Real Estate is as inexpensive or as expensive as you might want it. We have lots in San Bruno that have electricity and water that go for $3,000 and water front lots at Punta Chivato that go for $150,000 (no elec).

Lots of little markets and stores where you can usually get almost everything you want within reason. (Sometimes ice cream is impossible to find).

motoged - 8-3-2012 at 10:56 AM

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..... (Sometimes ice cream is impossible to find).


I remember a small shop just a few doors past El Candil (towards the lavandaria) that sold sweets and ice cream....I don't know who made it but it was good.

Mexican street vendors sell some of the best ice cream I have ever had....when you can find it :saint:

Mulegena - 8-3-2012 at 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Pescador
..... (Sometimes ice cream is impossible to find).


I remember a small shop just a few doors past El Candil (towards the lavandaria) that sold sweets and ice cream....I don't know who made it but it was good.

Mexican street vendors sell some of the best ice cream I have ever had....when you can find it :saint:
Yes, there's ice cream in Mulege, and that little open-air shop-- very, very tasty and my fav.
There's also another ice cream shop in town and you can find it in a couple grocery stores, too.

Mulege is a nice little village with good folks, imo.

Lifestyle options are for the individual's choosing.

Come rent for at least a year before buying is my sage advice. See how the glass slipper fits.

Cypress - 8-3-2012 at 12:04 PM

Mulege? If it wasn't for the poor fishing/catching, I'd be there right about now.;D

Bob and Susan - 8-3-2012 at 12:09 PM

you cant catch fish if you're not out there:lol:

anyway it's HOT and the italians are here:tumble:
they KNOW how to cool off

Cypress - 8-3-2012 at 01:34 PM

It's one of those been there, done that things. Spent 4 months fishing down "there". It ain't what it's cracked up to be, no bigee, just the way it is. Fishing some more productive grounds now. Wishing all you Sea of Cortez fishermen good luck.:lol:

QUETZALCOATL - 8-3-2012 at 04:30 PM

Wow thank you all for your prompt and great responses -just one more question,my wife is wondering if Mulege has a panderia?

SFandH - 8-3-2012 at 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by QUETZALCOATL
Wow thank you all for your prompt and great responses -just one more question,my wife is wondering if Mulege has a panderia?


No! And it's the craziest thing! A town with no bakery. Wassup wid dat?

willyAirstream - 8-4-2012 at 07:38 AM

Lupi, sometimes bakes and delivers, bread, cin. Rolls, and assorted baked goods. When he is around, it`s great. Loreto has a great bakery. Magnam ice cream bars are always available., but the location is secret. Yellow tail are plentiful now as well as small Dorado. Food shopping is a fun adventure, as you might need to go to 3 or 4 stores to find what you need. Good inexpensive Mex restaurants and taco stands. Ray`s for fine dining, Scottys for gringo hamburgers and good times. See my blog , link below, for life in Mulege.

Udo - 8-4-2012 at 07:44 AM

If you are looking to buy there, the best deals are in the Orchard.
Look on craigs list to give you an idea of what is selling. You may also enter any city for a search criteria.

http://bajasur.en.craigslist.com.mx/search/rea?query=Mulege&...

There is a bakery open from September to May - across from Super Agua 2000

akmaxx - 8-4-2012 at 07:47 AM

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/bajaroger/MULEGE%20M...

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk45/bajaroger/MULEGE%20M...

If Pompano doesn't mind me borrowing his shots.

Cappuccino and a strawberry pie from Margarita hits the spot.

BajaBlanca - 8-4-2012 at 11:26 AM

I do agree that renting is a good idea - different towns float boats differently or something like that. I think Mulege is a fantastic town that offers quite a lot of variety in terms of shops and food and people. The ex-pats that I have met seem to be a neat crowd who do lots of activities together. The chili cook off festival really impressed me !

About the only negative is the heat. Boy it gets muggy in the summer ....

and petty crime is everywhere unfortunately ....

woody with a view - 8-4-2012 at 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
anyway it's HOT and the italians are here:tumble:
they KNOW how to cool off


swimming nekkid?:o

Sweetwater - 8-4-2012 at 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by akmaxx





If Pompano doesn't mind me borrowing his shots.

Cappuccino and a strawberry pie from Margarita hits the spot.


Yup....great pie....but I had the cherry instead........

Bob H - 8-4-2012 at 01:34 PM

Hello, and welcome to the board. That's an interesting handle you have chosen there. Here is a photo of a wood carving from Mexico, in the 50's, that was handed down through the years in my family. It hangs on the wall in our bedroom.

Cypress - 8-4-2012 at 01:34 PM

Sweetwater.:biggrin:

Marc - 8-4-2012 at 01:54 PM

Contact Robin Frizzelle at Mulege Properties.
From USA 011-52-615-104 2471

The bakery next door (his wife) sells killer pastries.
That's Robin in a previous photo.

[Edited on 8-4-2012 by Marc]

805gregg - 8-4-2012 at 07:52 PM

Just don't stay near the river (Orchard) during hurricane season.

SFandH - 8-5-2012 at 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by willyAirstream
Lupi, sometimes bakes and delivers, bread, cin. Rolls, and assorted baked goods.


We're good customers of his when he drives down to the beach with freshly baked stuff. Lupi is a good baker! His jalapeno bread is my favorite. Wish he would set up shop in town. Does he do the baking in his house?

willyAirstream - 8-5-2012 at 07:11 AM

Lupi owns and sometimes operates the pizza joint on the second story on the corner by the bank. He bakes there, and most likely lives there. Yep, his bread freezes well too, so I always stock up.
He leaves regularly to persue any good job that comes along.

shari - 8-5-2012 at 07:18 AM

Hey willy....maybe you can bring a couple loaves when you head our way to munch on at the surf competition day!!! does he make whole wheat anything?

Mulegena - 8-5-2012 at 07:25 AM

Bread & Bakery options in Mulege area

Lucia operates a wonderful bakery down in the bay at Posada Concepcion. So far, winter season only.

Man, can she turn out the baked goods and pizza!

willyAirstream - 8-5-2012 at 07:29 AM

whole wheat anythings are his specialty! Cinnamon rolls, plain bread ( not sweet like SR bread), indiv. pizzas, Whole wheat bread, multi grain bread, bread sticks etc. However, it is rumored he is working in GN right now. I will bring you a loaf or two of my rustic bread which I make regularly, as I miss good bread!
instant weather report - live - Heavy Thunder here, heavy clouds in the mountains, bright sun over the water, liquid air, waiting for a rainbow to form. stay tuned

SFandH - 8-5-2012 at 07:32 AM

Hopefully the "liquid air" will dry out before mid-October when we arrive for our winter stay!

willyAirstream - 8-5-2012 at 07:45 AM

It's Raining!! First time since Sept?

sprinkles, not a down pour. Just enough to streak the dust on everything.

Mulege tip, bring shoes that have traction soles for walking on the river road on days like this, it is as slick as....(fill in your fav words)

shari - 8-5-2012 at 07:47 AM

that's great it's raining....the ranchers will be contenos! sure would like to find that baker if he's in GN!

Marc - 8-5-2012 at 08:19 AM

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Originally posted by willyAirstream
It's Raining!! First time since Sept?

sprinkles, not a down pour. Just enough to streak the dust on everything.

Mulege tip, bring shoes that have traction soles for walking on the river road on days like this, it is as slick as....(fill in your fav words)


Rained hard for a while on Feb 8. We planned to camp near Anna's but ended up in a nice house in the Orchard. Tin roof make it seem like a monsoon.
Marc

Cielomar - 8-5-2012 at 11:40 AM

I'd check out Loreto also. Some folks think its too big but there are some great places around the area and I like the vibe of the old, historic town. Mulage always struck me as a place that would wear thin after a couple of months. Good advice to rent for awhile. Either way, the summers are a pretty mean and make you dream of being over on the Pacific side...

woody with a view - 8-5-2012 at 11:56 AM

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Nice truck!:cool:

Cypress - 8-5-2012 at 12:12 PM

Mulege is a great place! Rent!!!! Don't buy anything along the river. I've got a picture of a govt. sign warning against building along the river. Will attempt to post it with my limited skills.;D

[Edited on 8/5/2012 by Cypress]

QUETZALCOATL - 8-6-2012 at 07:22 AM

You all are GREAT!!!Thank you so much for your input, I am going to Cabo in Dec-I plan 2 use my daughter's 4runner to go to Mulege-I hope to meet some of you then,this will be my fact finding trip then hope to move shortly after. I am so glad I found this site and ya all, just 1 question-Is the orchard where flooding sometimes happens? Anyway thank you again,hope you have a great day.

woody with a view - 8-6-2012 at 07:23 AM

yes.

willyAirstream - 8-6-2012 at 07:40 AM

Yes, the flood zone is all along the Rio. Oasis, Orchard etc all the way to the light house. Living on the rio requires planning to be able to move your stuff quickly or store it high etc. Still a risk, but there are some beautiful places for sale or rent. There are other great places above the flood plain too. Stop in and say hello when you arrive.

Udo - 8-6-2012 at 07:45 AM

Shari, there is a {French)bakery in TJ and Ensenada.
I can pick up some loaves there for when we come down in December.
Or I can even pick some up near where I live and bring those down.
We'll make French Toast for breakfast one day!
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Originally posted by shari
Hey willy....maybe you can bring a couple loaves when you head our way to munch on at the surf competition day!!! does he make whole wheat anything?

desertcpl - 8-6-2012 at 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by QUETZALCOATL
You all are GREAT!!!Thank you so much for your input, I am going to Cabo in Dec-I plan 2 use my daughter's 4runner to go to Mulege-I hope to meet some of you then,this will be my fact finding trip then hope to move shortly after. I am so glad I found this site and ya all, just 1 question-Is the orchard where flooding sometimes happens? Anyway thank you again,hope you have a great day.



;we just love Mulege,, we stayed at the Orchard for 2 weeks in our RV,, thats when they had RV pads for rent,
I wanted to buy a place on the river, then came along the Hurricane they had a terrible flood along the river,
maybe some one can give the links to what happened then

Alm - 8-6-2012 at 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Udo
If you are looking to buy there, the best deals are in the Orchard.
Look on craigs list to give you an idea of what is selling. You may also enter any city for a search criteria.

http://bajasur.en.craigslist.com.mx/search/rea?query=Mulege&...

Orchard is a flood zone, that's why. Most ads in that Craigs link are not Mulege, though - they are in Bahia Concepcion.

Crime rate... OP - there are always some desperados; you'll find them if you are looking hard. Probably there is a little more of them now after that hurricane that destroyed Orchard and flooded the town center. Fewer tourists, too - so beggars, muggers and petty thieves become more persistent, but this is happening all around Baja lately.

Sure Cabo is expensive. Because in Cabo it is 80 in the night now, and in Mulege - close to 90.

IMO, the biggest problem of this town is - no waterfront. It is not on the sea. Rio Mulege is shallow, only in high tide you could get to Orchard and other places upstream. Didn't check after that post-Himena dredging job done by the Feds, though.

It's not all gloom, of course. Every time I stopped there it left impression of a charming and peaceful place. May be it is.

mulegemichael - 8-6-2012 at 08:07 PM

charming and peaceful.....that's what it is....take it or leave it....we take it..and love it.

motoged - 8-7-2012 at 10:25 AM

The river can get a bit high when the hurricanes hit....















More pics:

http://www.flyingjim.com/Mulege_Flood_2006.htm




http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e71/rpleger/Mulege%20Flood/?src=wap

David K - 8-7-2012 at 11:27 AM

Nice look at recent history there Ged... There is even trouble in paradise! This type of flood happenes typically every 50 years... they just had two in the past 10 years. Maybe that means Mulege is good for 100 years now? Maybe not! It is beautiful living along a flood plain, but the wise man lives on a hill!

Alm - 8-7-2012 at 01:51 PM

Yep. Locals don't build down in the flood plane. Photos are not current, they show 2009 flood. It's better now. Can happen again, nobody knows when. I wouldn't bet on 100 years, though. Climatologists say that the climate is not just "changing" but weather becomes more violent as we keep on destroying the planet. More winds, floods, anomalies like snow in Southern states etc.

Cypress - 8-7-2012 at 02:08 PM

Weather is something else. The weather gurus can't, with any degree of certainty, tell us what's gonna happen next week. And we're supposed to buy into their predictions about what's gonna happen 10 yrs.?, 20 yrs.? ....etc. from now?;D:?:

willyAirstream - 8-7-2012 at 07:01 PM

And the good news is that the Orchard is still only $38/NIGHT

Alm - 8-11-2012 at 02:35 AM

Cypress, the only difference between "weather" and "climate" is a measure of time. One hurricane is a "weather", more frequent hurricanes is a "climate". To avoid this semantics, you may consider that "nature" becomes more violent, if this sounds better. More frequent extreme weather occurrences, in other words.

Cypress - 8-11-2012 at 03:52 AM

Alm, Maybe "nature" isn't becoming more violent. Modern technology makes us aware of any weather event worldwide. The expanding population makes it more likely that these natural events will have an impact. No doubt that climate changes. ;)

River Cleanup

Mulegena - 8-11-2012 at 08:49 AM

So you know, the town is cleaning the river.

I know, I know. I can hear everybody say "We've heard that before." but... this time its true.

Don't know the details or specifics of the clean-up plan. I do know that an engineer and his team have been hired and they've surveyed the river. I don't know the correct term for this but this week they're installing what might be called surveyors' poles in the river.

willyAirstream - 8-11-2012 at 09:00 AM

Adding to the rumors -
Workers have been inquiring about room rentals at Cuesta Real RV/ Hotel. `Sometime in Sept.`
A porta potty contractor has been hired

Now, will they show up with one machine or many?

bigmike58 - 8-11-2012 at 01:07 PM

These were installed yesterday. Maybe the dredging will actually happen?
They cross the entire river at two seperate locations,,


Alm - 8-11-2012 at 07:51 PM

Oh boy, it only took them 3 years to start that dredging... Love Baja...

mulegemichael - 8-12-2012 at 07:27 AM

3 years is better than never...we're happy!....to be able to keep our boat at our dock right in front of the house would be wonderful!

DavidE - 8-12-2012 at 10:22 AM

Look at the bright side! If they dredge deep and wide enough, then comes the super-duper boat launching ramps!

Like it or not, those hurricanes added tens of feet to the aquifers. Nature can be cruel as hell. Offering a mango pie in one hand and beating the hell out you with a coconut log with the other...

Cypress - 8-12-2012 at 12:31 PM

Not a big deal. All they have to do is cut a 3-4 foot deep channel.:yes:

J.P. - 8-12-2012 at 12:47 PM

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Not a big deal. All they have to do is cut a 3-4 foot deep channel.:yes:






In the past I saw people out in the channel trying to dig a path so thy could get thier boats in/out When and if they do dredge it how long will it take to fill back up with sand. Once you start dredging it's a continuieng process.

Cypress - 8-12-2012 at 01:08 PM

J.P., It is indeed an ongoing process. ;) The amount of dredging needed in Mulege to open up the mouth of the river isn't a big deal. :biggrin:

cervezafrio - 8-12-2012 at 01:09 PM

Hi mulegemike ... dregeing the river is a big deal for everyone .... very good for the area and local people [ economy ] mulege will never be like the days of old when the 'Duke' came to visit but it can return to a better place for all .... funny half the post are about the flooding problem and how every one is crazy for being there .... but there are disasters in other parts of the world and nobody packs up and runs away .... they rebuild and continue on with their lives ... besides the up side is great .... how many palces in the world [ for a reasonable price ] can you live in a beautiful place with wonderful people and have a river in your front yard [ protected harbor ]... that leads out to the sea ... not many ... enjoy it for what it is not for what you think it should be .... it takes a brave heart and vision ....

Cypress - 8-12-2012 at 01:14 PM

cervezafrio, Welcome aboard. You're right about having a river/creek that leads out to the sea in your front yard. A very special situation! I'm very thankful!:D

[Edited on 8/12/2012 by Cypress]

J.P. - 8-12-2012 at 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by Cypress
J.P., It is indeed an ongoing process. ;) The amount of dredging needed in Mulege to open up the mouth of the river isn't a big deal. :biggrin:




We used to travel to Mulege often when Ken/Chris were at the Cuesta Real, I liked going there but that was in the past we were there this past spring and the whole area really had a depressed look and feel about it The Questa was just another poorly run Mexican Hotel.

[Edited on 8-13-2012 by J.P.]

Alm - 8-18-2012 at 12:52 AM

JP, the whole Baja has a depressed look if one cares to look closer. Bad times. And it won't get better soon. Gringos can live on their SS pensions there and be happy, but locals are in a different "boat". And when others around you are unhappy, you'll feel the effects of this, one way or another.

Bob and Susan - 8-18-2012 at 06:57 AM

alm...actually this is the "gringo" view

there is work here..."gringos" just dont see it
right NOW the locals are building and improving and going to school

the "SS crowd" comes in the winter and leaves in may...
too hot when its over 80f
they are "snowbirds"

the local people in town are generally happy...
they have different goals then "gringos"

the world doesnt revolve around the "american tourist"

desertcpl - 8-18-2012 at 07:34 AM

well said Bob