BajaNomad - Why problems with Mail??

Why problems with Mail??

Nemo55 - 8-19-2012 at 08:13 AM

Its probably been answered a thousand times,and i did use the search function to try find out.
But why does receiving and sending mail seem to be such an Issue in the Baja,,or other places??

Doesn't Mexico have a working Mail system?? :coolup:

bajaguy - 8-19-2012 at 08:27 AM

If you want to get reliable mail delivery from the US/Canada in the Ensenada/Punta Banda area, sign up with a mail delivery service....well worth the expense.

durrelllrobert - 8-19-2012 at 08:30 AM

All incoming and outgoing mail for Baja must first pass though Mexico City (according to my sources).

J.P. - 8-19-2012 at 08:42 AM

The only Mail I have ever recived in Baja delivered to my Home adress is my Ca renewal notice for my vehicles that are Reg in Ca with my Baja home adress. Oh. and they are Smog exempt. :cool:

Nemo55 - 8-19-2012 at 08:48 AM

So,,,no ones actually relied on the Mexican Mail system???
If not, why not???

Thanks

J.P. - 8-19-2012 at 08:54 AM

Its not that reliable and takes to long most of the time.

bajajudy - 8-19-2012 at 09:01 AM

I have used the Mexican mail service for 12 years with absolutely no problems. All of my Social Security mail comes to my apartado here in San Jose. A friend sent me a CD and it made it.
That said....I also have a box at Mail Boxes Etc in Chula Vista. They come here twice a week with the mail. This is mostly for our business and is certainly quicker than Mexican Correo. They do not accept merchandise, only letters, etc. You can mail letters out for a fee...last time I did it, it was 30mn per piece.

oops....San Ysidro not Chula Vista

[Edited on 8-19-2012 by bajajudy]

DENNIS - 8-19-2012 at 09:06 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo55
If not, why not???

Because it has earned a reputation of being unreliable...especially for international mail.
Mex correo is improving, but it has a long way to go before I'll rely on them.

capitolkat - 8-19-2012 at 09:20 AM

WE have a private mail service for everything. As a test my brother-in-law sent an envelope with a recipe in February to our home in La Paz-- still missing in action and we never expect it to arrive.

Our mail person rides a cycle with a bag on the back. A few weeks ago we saw him stop to deliver a phone bill to a neighbor- he stopped his cycle got off and threw the envelope into the yard- back on his cycle and rode away as we watched the envelope blow across the yard. We stopped got out and picked up the phone bill and took it to the door and stuck it into a seam in the door.

Ever wonder why CFE delivers their own bills?

J.P. - 8-19-2012 at 10:13 AM

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Originally posted by capitolkat
WE have a private mail service for everything. As a test my brother-in-law sent an envelope with a recipe in February to our home in La Paz-- still missing in action and we never expect it to arrive.

Our mail person rides a cycle with a bag on the back. A few weeks ago we saw him stop to deliver a phone bill to a neighbor- he stopped his cycle got off and threw the envelope into the yard- back on his cycle and rode away as we watched the envelope blow across the yard. We stopped got out and picked up the phone bill and took it to the door and stuck it into a seam in the door.

Ever wonder why CFE delivers their own bills?

Our C.F.E. bill didnt arrive on time so we went down there and found out you can take a old bill and pass the bar code over the reader and it will tell you the amount due to date.
this can also be done with your Telnor Bill.

shari - 8-19-2012 at 10:22 AM

and what's wrong with getting Christmas cards in July? jejejejeje

Nemo55 - 8-19-2012 at 11:18 AM

I have to have my Medications sent to me from Canada every 90 days, so what is the best bet then??
Where and who do i sign up with?

Many Thanks

Alex

DENNIS - 8-19-2012 at 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Nemo55
I have to have my Medications sent to me from Canada every 90 days, so what is the best bet then??
Where and who do i sign up with?

Where are you?

Bob and Susan - 8-19-2012 at 12:37 PM

this thread is really mute...letters in the mail are almost gone

mail volume has dropped drasticly in the last few years due to internet email and shopping

your mailman in the usa will be a parcel carrrier like ups and fedex very soon

paperless billing will take over very soon...including in mexico

Ateo - 8-19-2012 at 12:41 PM

I once mailed a postcard from Oaxaca to the US and it arrived 4 months later.

Bob and Susan - 8-19-2012 at 12:43 PM

you should have scanned it and emailed it...way faster

Barry A. - 8-19-2012 at 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
this thread is really mute...letters in the mail are almost gone

mail volume has dropped drasticly in the last few years due to internet email and shopping

your mailman in the usa will be a parcel carrrier like ups and fedex very soon

paperless billing will take over very soon...including in mexico

-------and what will happen to those without internet access??? I have dozens of friends and aquaintenances that don't have computers, and many more that don't understand what they DO have.. The only reason we survive the complexities of the "net" is that one of our son's is a computer-nerd for United Health Services, and he saves our bacon regularly!!! :light:

I can't even figure out how to access what I want on YAHOO without his help, and it is only going to get worse as we age more. Not good!!! I spent an hour trying to access the weather I want to see on YAHOO this morning, and never COULD figure it out since YAHOO has apprently reconfigured it's Home Page. It says my "location" is in Chico (wrong), and my "default" address is in Independence, Ca about 400 miles from here, and I cannot seem to reset/correct either. AArrrrrrgh!!!!!!

Barry

Pescador - 8-19-2012 at 03:08 PM

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Not as long as the government keeps bailing them out.
Oh, that's right, you have a little first hand experience with the postal department.

Bob and Susan - 8-19-2012 at 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

-------and what will happen to those without internet access??? I have dozens of friends and aquaintenances that don't have computers, and many more that don't understand what they DO have.. The only reason we survive the complexities of the "net" is that one of our son's is a computer-nerd for United Health Services, and he saves our bacon regularly!!! :light:

again barry you and your friends are in a minority...

there used to be people without cars because they couldn't drive...only horses and mules...they were left behind...you will be too...

look around and watch "your future" clicking away on their devices...texting not talking...emailing with out their computer...working while they sit around eating...

someday we MAY even land a man on the moon :light:

durrelllrobert - 8-19-2012 at 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

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-------and what will happen to those without internet access??? Barry

Edit: sorry my response didn't show up. I must be computer ignorant. Any how what I meant to post:
same thing as when the motor vehicle repaced the horse and carriage; something new to tax. :lol:

[Edited on 8-19-2012 by durrelllrobert]

Bob and Susan - 8-19-2012 at 03:44 PM

pescador...the government bails out fedex and ups everyday

the postal service delivers the "no-profit" areas for $1 a package...
pallets come into postal offices every morning for deliver by your local mailman

fedex flys the usps mail...thats how they can afford to keep the fedex planes in the air with increasing av-gas

the postal service makes ALOT of money
remember the roll of stamps costs US 40 something bucks
it costs $1.25 to make a roll of stamos in the little plastic package

and the online postage cost $0.00
the mailer pays for ink and labels

postal volume is dropping daily...its only a matter of time till its a historical subject like mail on trains...

oh yea
that's how the trains stayed in business until they got settled with frieght when people started using airlines

Barry A. - 8-19-2012 at 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan

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That "minority" you speak of is about 100 Million folks at this time, I believe. I don't have to look too far as my wife has ALL the latest gagets for communication-----she has had an I-phone since they first came out, and is still trying to figure out how it works and what it can do. Me, I don't even have a cell phone, and don't want one, and our Garman NUVI only gets us in trouble (sorta kidding on that one). :lol:

The kind of phasing out you speak of will take years, IMO.

But all that aside------many of the "old folks" simply are not oriented towards all this high-tech stuff, and will never learn it as it is just too far out of there frame of reference, and requires way more active memory than they can muster. THAT is the problem I am worried about.

I have no doubt about the younger folks lapping it all up with no real problems, tho, so in that respect you are right, I believe.

Change is difficult for many----------and the stress of it all is just not worth it to many.

We will see what happens.

Thanks for your reply.

Barry

Bob and Susan - 8-20-2012 at 05:21 AM

everyone hates change...
but its there and we need to embrace it

i remember when people wouldn't use the microwave in the kitchen
please tell me you have a microwave

if you can embrace change
YOUR life will be better

buy a cellphone...with a camera!!!

Barry A. - 8-20-2012 at 10:07 AM

Bob------------I don't need a cell phone (had one on the job and NEVER used it, tho I did answer it----since I also had a 2-way radio I never understood why they gave the cell-phone to me---waste of money), and I have two digital cameras, but seldom use them, and, since my wife has all these things, I don't need to spend the money on duplication, or at least that is the way I see it.

We do have a microwave, and I use it for heating water for coffee, and that is all. My wife uses it all the time, tho. :light:

I like to keep my life simple-----------I am much happier that way, and therefore not grumpy all the time. :light:

I do appreciate e-mail tho, as I can keep in touch with all my kids and friends and relatives, and of course respond on NOMADS. :lol:

and I have NEVER liked conversing on the telephone.

I don't feel "left out" in the least--------but I am a pretty solitary guy. My wife, friends and neighbors, and kids keep me informed on the latest happenings, and drag me along into the new reality, and they appear to enjoy doing that.

Life is good-----I am happy-----and I don't want to mess with that.

Still, I worry about all the old folks around me that are so obviously confused and bewildered with this "change" you speak of.

On edit-------I even have several old friends that cannot type---never learned how----they are really left out in left field, eh?.

(I think I have beat this horse to death, now----so I am thru)

Barry

[Edited on 8-21-2012 by Barry A.]

DavidE - 8-20-2012 at 10:28 AM

Seventeen packages and envelopes mailed since 1995. Two arrived. Includes Mulegé, San Lucas, Guaymas, Mazatlan, San Patricio Melaque, and La Mira. The two that arrived? One in Mulegé, the other in San Lucas.

When adobe jacales with dirt floors, and burlap sacks get wide screen televisions and WiFI, then and only then will gobernacion start to change over from correos. Ever go to an oficina de correos and see the guy sitting behind a little portable desk marked "TRAMITES"? Well, he AIN'T in the local internet service provider's office for a reason.

Hell, even CFE does not rely on the mail down here.

Gobernacion is going to be s-l-o-w accepting electronic correspondence. Stuff has to be done ON PAPER, with signatures IN INK. How many documents must be notarized? Electronically? C'mon, let me up I'm bleedin'.

BajaBlanca - 8-20-2012 at 03:47 PM

and to answer the question about getting meds from Canada, I think you will have to find someone to bring them down to you. which should be pretty easy since so many Canadians come down to escape winters.

and some folks are never happy with that answer - saying it is illegal but I say each one to his own take. Whenever we need meds, friends BREAK THE LAW and bring it down to us in southern baja and we do the same for others when we are in the U.S. Obviously this law is in place due to illegal drugs, but legal drugs are mucho diferente IMO. When it gets picked up at the pharmacy or delivered straight from the pharmacy to your house - seems a no-brainer to me.

Now to answer the other issue about keeping up with the times - we have given up cell phones since we are usually home and mostly retired. No iphone and no other recent gadgets BUT, would you believe I got chewed out by my 78 year old mom who thought I was taking too long to answer her emails since I obviously was getting them on my cell phone, in real time, just like she was.

78 years old folks. the woman is just amazing !

Bob and Susan - 8-20-2012 at 05:21 PM

blanca...Prescription drugs...

its not about being illegal drugs at all...
its about competition with the meds for sale legally in mexico

there are pharmacys in mexico
to PURCHASE your drugs while you live here

when you go back get your meds in canada or the usa

local pharmacys will accept your canadian doctors prescription

CAUTION / WARNING

durrelllrobert - 8-20-2012 at 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
and to answer the question about getting meds from Canada, I think you will have to find someone to bring them down to you. which should be pretty easy since so many Canadians come down to escape winters.

and some folks are never happy with that answer - saying it is illegal but I say each one to his own take. Whenever we need meds, friends BREAK THE LAW and bring it down to us in southern baja and we do the same for others when we are in the U.S. Obviously this law is in place due to illegal drugs, but legal drugs are mucho diferente IMO. When it gets picked up at the pharmacy or delivered straight from the pharmacy to your house - seems a no-brainer to me.

Now to answer the other issue about keeping up with the times - we have given up cell phones since we are usually home and mostly retired. No iphone and no other recent gadgets BUT, would you believe I got chewed out by my 78 year old mom who thought I was taking too long to answer her emails since I obviously was getting them on my cell phone, in real time, just like she was.

78 years old folks. the woman is just amazing !

If you order mail order Rx drugs from Canadian Pharmacy they are just acting as the midle man. The Rx is actually filled and shipped from India. The warning is because you had to give your credit card number to Canadian Pharmacy who in turn gives it to ??? in India. This cost me $7,000 in fradualant charges for airline tickets, hotels and mechandise. Visa eventuallly removed all those charges but it took several months.

Nemo55 - 8-20-2012 at 07:46 PM

I should have been clearer, my daughter has permission to re-order and pick up my medications from the local pharmacy and i want her to send them to me while i am in Ensenada... i wanted a good deliver option.

DavidE - 8-20-2012 at 08:05 PM

Sometimes medicines are TEN TIMES as costly in dollars in México as they are in a pharmacy in the USA. Four of my medications are available ONLY in trademark flagship brand name. Plaquenil®, FOUR a day a two dollars each or Hydroxycloroquine in generic form in the united states for sixteen cents each. IMDUR®, two bucks a pop in Mexico or thirty eight cents each in generic form in the USA. Thank God, farmacias similares has Lopressor®, for merely four times it's generic cost in the USA. The are NO, meaning ZERO generics for these medications anywhere in México.

Lo Siento Mucho, but I have not the money to subsidize a Swiss or German firm, the parent company. It's bad enough to my social security to pay what I pay, but if I went full-bore I would have no money left.

J.P. - 8-20-2012 at 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by Nemo55
I should have been clearer, my daughter has permission to re-order and pick up my medications from the local pharmacy and i want her to send them to me while i am in Ensenada... i wanted a good deliver option.

Let me explain in a different way. It is ILLEGAL for anyone but you to bring your drugs pescribed to you but you and then you are allowed only a prudent amount. There are a few people in prison here wondering what a prudent amount is.
Any one bringing Prescribed Drugs that are not theirs is taking one hell of a chance.

[Edited on 8-21-2012 by J.P.]

Nemo

bajaguy - 8-20-2012 at 08:18 PM

Have your daughter ship you a 90 day supply with a copy of the Rx to an address in San Diego/Chula Vista.

Every 90 days go pick them up.....easy squeezy

You may be able to get the same Rx in Ensenada at a similar cost or cost savings......I do....check around.

Bob and Susan - 8-21-2012 at 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert
If you order mail order Rx drugs from Canadian Pharmacy they are just acting as the midle man. The Rx is actually filled and shipped from India. The warning is because you had to give your credit card number to Canadian Pharmacy who in turn gives it to ??? in India. This cost me $7,000 in fradualant charges for airline tickets, hotels and mechandise. Visa eventuallly removed all those charges but it took several months.

just because a company on the internet is
named "Canadian Pharmacy" doesnt mean it is from CANADA!!!
it DOES target canadians though

legit drugs from the pharmacy are not shipped from india...

Bob and Susan - 8-21-2012 at 05:04 AM

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Originally posted by DavidE
Sometimes medicines are TEN TIMES as costly in dollars in México as they are in a pharmacy in the USA...

Lo Siento Mucho, but I have not the money to subsidize a Swiss or German firm, the parent company.

david this is exactly why the drug importation law in mexico is in place...other countries products can put the locals out of business...

if you can't afford to live in mexico after retiring as an engineer...time to move to india...holy cow

DavidE - 8-21-2012 at 08:24 AM

Let's see, first I get told what types of medicines I can purchase.

Then I get told where I can live.

DavidE - 8-21-2012 at 09:09 AM

JP,

In Mexico, schedule I, II, and III medications are the only ones that have any form of restrictions on them. Class IV and V medications are over-the-counter except for antibiotics, and the restrictions on them solely are for the sale at the time and point of sale (SSA 31-(a) (c)). A person can carry a flask of 5,000 cardiac medications with someone else's name on a written prescription label on the container and the authorities will not say anything. It is when and if any medications are SOLD that Sector Salud laws apply for class IV and V medicines.

Thirty one states base their drug and medicine laws after the DF model. Any procuraduria office can tell you what a law specifies and it will be universal throughout the republic. Rather than guess at this, I visited with quite a number of ministerios publicos over the last thirty years, some commandantes de SSP, and PGR officials. I wrote some articles about how to follow the law and stay out of trouble.

COFEPRIS the enforcement arm of Aduana and Sector Salud is supposed to intercept and confiscate ALL medications, vitamin supplements, herbs, home remedies, medical appliances, equipment et al, being shipped into Mexico by mail or common carrier. Fed Ex, DHL, and the mail does not escape their watchful eye. Mail delivery systems sometimes bring in medications, but if the big COFEPRIS eye turns on a carrier, say goodbye to your medicines and medical gear.

I have entered Mexico innumerable times with thousands of doses of various medications bottled with my name on an Rx label. Sometimes three or more aduaneros have seen the boxes and I have asked them about the subject. The answer is "no problemo". However should a bulk medication bottle be seen without an Rx label, the aduaneros look for country of origin. Chinese and Indian medications are forbidden. Only a fool would rely on medications from India or China, recommend them, or sell them. COFEPRIS learned the hard way that this poison can kill. In 1994 I purchased a bottle of "USP" Nimesulide in Mexico. IMPOSSIBLE! Nimesulide is not recognized by the US Pharmacopeia! Inside the double-sealed bottle I found the wrong count of pills, some were capsules, others were blue when they should have been yellow, different shapes, and I threw out the bottle.

SFandH - 8-21-2012 at 09:30 AM

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I think I've seen DHL trucks in Ensenada, but I'm not sure. I know I've seen them someplace in Baja.

I've been crossing the border to buy meds for hypertension in TJ for years. I monitor my BP and they work fine. My San Diego doctor knows I do that and he's OK with it. So if efficacy of Mex meds is a concern, I'm one case where it's not a problem. They're substantially cheaper.

DENNIS - 8-21-2012 at 09:34 AM

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Originally posted by SFandH
I think I've seen DHL trucks in Ensenada, but I'm not sure. I know I've seen them someplace in Baja.

Yeah...they're here. Used to have an office on the Costero, but I believe they relocated.....not sure, but they're here somewhere.

durrelllrobert - 8-21-2012 at 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by Bob and Susan
just because a company on the internet is
named "Canadian Pharmacy" doesnt mean it is from CANADA!!!
it DOES target canadians though

legit drugs from the pharmacy are not shipped from india...

This is from their web site:
Contact Us
Please use the contact form in order to get in touch with us. One of our support operators will get in touch with you very soon. Still, if you want a face to face audience with one of our managers, you can visit our main Headquarters or secondary offices from 10 a.m. till 6 p.m. local time. We are always glad to meet you!

Main Office:
913 Montreal Road, Ottawa,
ON, Canada

Branch Office in the USA:
527 West 7th Street, Los Angeles, CA
90014-2503, USA

International Orders Department:
18/4 Centennial st., Winnipeg,
Manitoba, Canada

Bob and Susan - 8-21-2012 at 10:09 AM

the adress in ottawa canada looks like a dental office...for rent too

drugs.jpg - 25kB

Bob and Susan - 8-21-2012 at 10:15 AM

that place in los angeles looks pretty seedy too...

the third address doesnt exist...when you google it...
it says FAKE :no:

[Edited on 8-21-2012 by Bob and Susan]

drugla.jpg - 38kB

DavidE - 8-21-2012 at 10:19 AM

However, medicines brought into Mexico via Fed Ex, UPS, and DHL will be confiscated.

And for a little spice: GOOGLE

Counterfeit and Substandard Medicines INDIA, then CHINA