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Nomads in La Rebiera?

Osprey - 9-30-2012 at 06:03 PM

Try again when you're sober. Your post makes no sense. If you need help, give us information we can understand, use, act on.

Whoa!

mcfez - 9-30-2012 at 07:23 PM

LB is what I'll have to say is Loreto Bay. It's very clear to me that the Grandmother is being careful not to upset anyone while searching for her Grand kids. I see NO indications in her post that she was "drunk" while writing.

Good luck to you Sallysouth
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Originally posted by Osprey
Try again when you're sober. Your post makes no sense. If you need help, give us information we can understand, use, act on.

David K - 9-30-2012 at 07:31 PM

LB is Los Barriles in this case since the subject is La Ribera which was misspelled. Sally was there maybe shock or just ill feelings with Juanita's husband? Time heals, I hope, these wounds

BajaBlanca - 9-30-2012 at 07:36 PM

you must miss your grandkids terribly !

I do hope you get some news soon.

BajaBlanca - 10-1-2012 at 08:48 AM

Sally -I think David was just trying to make it clear what place you were referring to...he wan't criticizing from the tone of the rest of the note.

any news ?

docvandijk - 10-1-2012 at 08:53 AM

A little info might go a long way. I'm sure your granddaughters and their father have names and are subject to some form of physical description.

I've seen plenty of pictures on this site.

Perhaps a less ambiguous request, something more than gender and geography, would yield better results.

capt. mike - 10-1-2012 at 12:15 PM

might the consulate help?

with all you've been thru i was shocked by the tone of the poster here who criticized you in such a sour manner.:barf:

Sallysouth - 10-1-2012 at 02:56 PM

Thank you Mike.Good Idea!I had just returned from my daughters memorial when I posted.A lot of people were asking about the girls.Now I wish I could delete the post.Thanks to those who have helped and given me support.

Floatflyer - 10-1-2012 at 08:14 PM

"with all you've been thru i was shocked by the tone of the poster here who criticized you in such a sour manner. "

I have to admit that I, too, was wondering what was up with the original post(now appears to be removed?). I know plenty of people in La Ribera and if names had been used help could possibly have been offered. There were several parts of the post that were confusing to me.

It also appears that there was/is something before this post that I, and apparently, Osprey, clearly have no idea what is going on. So, I hope this lady gets the results from her post that she wants and sorry I couldn't be of any help. Good luck.

soulpatch - 10-1-2012 at 09:29 PM

Guess without the original post it is hard to tell if the other was rude.

Sallysouth - 10-1-2012 at 09:58 PM

Soulpatch, trust me, all I wanted is a little help.I asked that anyone who could, to U2U me. mcfez, you are a true gentleman, and I thank you.Docvanjik, thank you for the U2U.That is a very private and valuable feature on this board.Osprey, keep jogging, it clears out the cobwebs.No hard feelings Nomads.I have enuf support here to keep me coming back.;)

Don Jorge - 10-2-2012 at 06:21 AM

Sally, you did what moms and grandmothers do best. You provided warmth, shelter, love and happiness in a time of darkness. Becky and I hope and pray your precious grand daughters are happy. Butterflies, labybugs and little girls caring so much about life. Thanks for sharing.

Skipjack Joe - 10-2-2012 at 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Osprey
Try again when you're sober. Your post makes no sense. If you need help, give us information we can understand, use, act on.


She meant La Riviera.

Osprey - 10-2-2012 at 07:55 AM

That's Cabo La Riviera

David K - 10-2-2012 at 08:12 AM

Funny how in Mexico the 'b' and 'v' are interchangeable ...

Buena = Vuena
Ribera = Rivera

Sallysouth - 10-2-2012 at 05:20 PM

I tried to delete the whole post, emailed Doug even.My original post was asking if there are any Nomads in La RIBERA.And if so, U2U me if you think you can help me.Thats all. Thank you, Don Jorge, for reminding me, it just makes me miss them so much more. They wiil be found, healthy and happy is what I need to hear.My Granddaughters are all I have left of Mija Juanita and they are both little mirrors of her.My daughter died in July for those that don't read my posts (except now obiously).Just trying to find out if my grandaughters are ok as no one has heard from them or the father since they left here.Again. U2U please?

Osprey - 10-2-2012 at 06:07 PM

The snowbird gringos (almost none of them Nomads) trickle back into this little village of 2000 people every October. LB to us, in East Cape, kinda means Los Barilles just 22 miles northeast of us by the highway. McFez thought LB meant Loreto Bay.

I didn't read the long thread about family problems in Baja Norte in much the same way those Nomads along the border sometimes take little interest to us waaay down south here. Nothing wrong with any of that but a skewed cry for help caught my eye and I asked for clarification -- can I help? That was my question.

When Nomads see any chance to help, they'll all jump in. Me included but I thought maybe somebody was being just too elusive or vague.

I'm a writer and I can tell you the name of this little village is La Ribera. It means a place by shore. We have a new marina here called Cabo Riviera which means "The end of the land". It's already been taken: Finnesterra or Land's End.

Why would most of the 8000 Nomads along the border assume all of us down this way would be obligated to read ALL THE POSTS, BE SENSITIVE TO ANY CALAMITY? I can assure you we don't/won't hold you to that -- we don't think you know our family situations, the names and ages of our kids or grandkids, our friends or loved ones.

This forum is for fishing and fun. Use it anyway you like but don't be such herky jerky conclusion jumpers.

Por Favor.

docvandijk - 10-2-2012 at 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Osprey
That's Cabo La Riviera


The ads they send me are for Cabo Riviera - and La Ribera is still La Ribera. Maybe I need new glasses, but it looks like the Riviera spelling adds an i. I've never seen it as La Ribiera.

Sallysouth - 10-2-2012 at 09:14 PM

My goodness Osprey! What has happened to you? I have read every story you have posted and loved most all of them.I don't know what you are going though but please, get back to what you do so well.There is so much more to this forum than fishing and fun.There has been so much support from Nomads to those of us that have needed, asked for it.So sorry for your poor disposition, and I hope you find relief. What the heck are herky jerky conclusion jumpers?:lol:

Double slap

mcfez - 10-2-2012 at 10:25 PM

7999 BN's thought you were the jerk Osprey. Your original post was insulting with a dab of poor comprehensive skills (and you are a writer)!

Now you do it again.

Who may be the drunk one, is what I ask.
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Originally posted by Osprey
The snowbird gringos (almost none of them Nomads) trickle back into this little village of 2000 people every October. LB to us, in East Cape, kinda means Los Barilles just 22 miles northeast of us by the highway. McFez thought LB meant Loreto Bay.

I didn't read the long thread about family problems in Baja Norte in much the same way those Nomads along the border sometimes take little interest to us waaay down south here. Nothing wrong with any of that but a skewed cry for help caught my eye and I asked for clarification -- can I help? That was my question.

When Nomads see any chance to help, they'll all jump in. Me included but I thought maybe somebody was being just too elusive or vague.

I'm a writer and I can tell you the name of this little village is La Ribera. It means a place by shore. We have a new marina here called Cabo Riviera which means "The end of the land". It's already been taken: Finnesterra or Land's End.

Why would most of the 8000 Nomads along the border assume all of us down this way would be obligated to read ALL THE POSTS, BE SENSITIVE TO ANY CALAMITY? I can assure you we don't/won't hold you to that -- we don't think you know our family situations, the names and ages of our kids or grandkids, our friends or loved ones.

This forum is for fishing and fun. Use it anyway you like but don't be such herky jerky conclusion jumpers.

Por Favor.

docvandijk - 10-2-2012 at 10:30 PM

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Originally posted by docvandijk
Quote:
Originally posted by Osprey
That's Cabo La Riviera


The ads they send me are for Cabo Riviera - and La Ribera is still La Ribera. Maybe I need new glasses, but it looks like the Riviera spelling adds an i. I've never seen it as La Ribiera.


Sorry Osprey. I didn't see your name clarification. I, as well as you, felt a bit frustrated in initially reading Sally's situation and was less tactful than I could have been in suggesting more info would help. Everybody here wants a happy ending to that story.

Osprey - 10-3-2012 at 06:18 AM

You and I didn't read the thread so we don't know what tragedy has befallen the poster so we are in no position to act appropriately respectful. All we could do was offer help on the faith that some Nomad was calling out for it.

I think forum members are blaming me for being uninformed about something serious. Maybe they want me to read the whole thread/story so I could apologize properly. I would do that if I could be sure they all read every line, became involved, offered aid and solace appropriate to the situation. Never thought of this forum in this family feud light before -- it's hard for me to feel ashamed, chastened for things I don't know about. Hell, I'm still making amends for things I did know about.

Floatflyer - 10-3-2012 at 07:13 AM

Double slap



"7999 BN's thought you were the jerk Osprey. Your original post was insulting with a dab of poor comprehensive skills (and you are a writer)!

Now you do it again.

Who may be the drunk one, is what I ask."


I guess I am one of the few that doesn't think Osprey said anything wrong. When I read the original post I thought "what is she talking about and I wonder if she is talking about La Ribera?"

After reading the comments since then I still feel that if she had simply asked for help and asked for those offering help to U2 her, this thread would have ended much sooner and without the rancor towards those of us that did not know about the history of this poster and her recent problems.

I hope that this thread and it's sad turn will end and that the forum can get back to the many enjoyable and beneficial topics we have come to expect.

comitan - 10-3-2012 at 08:49 AM

Everything aside La Ribera is small, I would think that if someone who has lived there a long time and knew most of the towns people would know if there is a man living there with 2 young gringo girls.

Osprey - 10-3-2012 at 09:06 AM

Yep, but her message said she thought they were in LB, NOT LR. It is small and I mentioned that and it's why I asked if I could help.

comitan - 10-3-2012 at 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Sallysouth I think this makes it clear as to the location.


I tried to delete the whole post, emailed Doug even.My original post was asking if there are any Nomads in La RIBERA.And if so, U2U me if you think you can help me.Thats all. Thank you, Don Jorge, for reminding me, it just makes me miss them so much more. They wiil be found, healthy and happy is what I need to hear.My Granddaughters are all I have left of Mija Juanita and they are both little mirrors of her.My daughter died in July for those that don't read my posts (except now obiously).Just trying to find out if my grandaughters are ok as no one has heard from them or the father since they left here.Again. U2U please?

docvandijk - 10-3-2012 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Osprey
You and I didn't read the thread so we don't know what tragedy has befallen the poster so we are in no position to act appropriately respectful. All we could do was offer help on the faith that some Nomad was calling out for it.

I think forum members are blaming me for being uninformed about something serious. Maybe they want me to read the whole thread/story so I could apologize properly. I would do that if I could be sure they all read every line, became involved, offered aid and solace appropriate to the situation. Never thought of this forum in this family feud light before -- it's hard for me to feel ashamed, chastened for things I don't know about. Hell, I'm still making amends for things I did know about.


You caught flack for being rude to a lady in obvious distress. Was the post ambigous and confusing, yes. Did she deserve being ridiculed - Not at all. Not knowing the back story is no excuse for accusing her of being drunk. Just my opinion, but this one may have to move over to the things you know about amends list.

Osprey - 10-3-2012 at 10:41 AM

That was a little self deprecation humor to soften my image. I don't knowingly do things that need mia culpas. And that wasn't ridicule -- I know ridicule. That's my way of showing frustration, the same frustration others felt when they were asked for help but didn't/couldn't understand the request.

What was obvious to me about her distress may I ask?

[Edited on 10-3-2012 by Osprey]

mcfez - 10-3-2012 at 11:02 AM

Anyone (or most folks) could read her post and "sense" clearly that there was some sort of distress.

If you didn't comprehend the post done by her.....then one should ask politely for addition information...........and NOT accuse her of being a drunk.

I'll end this little debate.....til someone here accuses me of retorting in a non sober state of mind.
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Originally posted by Osprey
Try again when you're sober. Your post makes no sense. If you need help, give us information we can understand, use, act on.




[Edited on 10-3-2012 by mcfez]

comitan - 10-3-2012 at 12:05 PM

I don't really know how to say this, but I think all this banter is to cover up the fact. The father and the girls are probably there and everyone is covering for him. He has probably said bad things about Sally. And doesn't want her near them. Happens all the time.

soulpatch - 10-3-2012 at 01:02 PM

Well, having never read the original post and having dialogued for years here and privately with Osprey I know him to be generous, smart and hospitable.

But, maybe it's just my glowing personality.:light:

mcfez - 10-3-2012 at 01:12 PM

Yes....he is a very nice gentleman......as I can say to the tune of being here at the BN for years also. The Grandmother with the missing family kids have been here for years too.....and is a very nice BN member. She is not a drunk.........as falsely accused by your buddy.

Just looking for her missing grand kids. Excuse my grammar BTW way......it's crapola :-)
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Originally posted by soulpatch
Well, having never read the original post and having dialogued for years here and privately with Osprey I know him to be generous, smart and hospitable.

But, maybe it's just my glowing personality.:light:

Sallysouth - 10-3-2012 at 07:56 PM

What comitan said may be true. I asked to be U2 ed to exchange information privately. That never happened.For reasons to protect myself and others, I will not share the info unless I feel safe to do so.Calling me names sure doesn't work.Lets put this post to rest, as it has gone no where except bringing to light some things I would never have thought about some here.