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The road to San Ignacio Lagoon? Paved? Graded?

clubfred - 10-30-2012 at 08:48 AM

Hey there.

Anyone know what the general condition of the road into San Ignacio Lagoon is like these days?

We'd like to take our friends in for a day of whale watching but the last time we drove in there was a complete nightmare, with washboard to knock out your fillings. That would have been about seven years ago, and I'm crossing my fingers that if it hasn't been paved it is at least graded regularly.

TMW - 10-30-2012 at 09:55 AM

It's paved for several miles out of town then graded a few more then it get bad again.

rts551 - 10-30-2012 at 10:05 AM

plus the baja 1000 traffic will make it a little more washboard

On edit: Use one of the vans out of San Ignacio.

[Edited on 10-30-2012 by rts551]

whales

captkw - 10-30-2012 at 10:07 AM

ummm,, how can I say this and not sound rude ??? whales are in the oceans of the world and a few go to baja to birth !! rather simple............... I have seen whales all over the pacific,cooks inlet,turn again arm,sea of cortez,,off gold's beach org. just about anywhere there salt water !!!!monterey bay ca....geeez you dont have to go anywhere to sea whales !! just get you butt away from that TV and get out and see the real world...........................................ps ricardo at rice and beans is a great guy and has a good van for the road !!

[Edited on 10-30-2012 by captkw]

motoged - 10-30-2012 at 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by clubfred

Anyone know what the general condition of the road into San Ignacio Lagoon is like these days?

...the last time we drove in there was a complete nightmare, with washboard to knock out your fillings.


Anybody know of a good dentist in San Ignacio???? :biggrin:

David K - 10-30-2012 at 04:41 PM

The word dentist disappears a second after it I come to your reply Ged... weird?

>>> A good dentist in San Ignacio ... Just to see if it happens to my reply, too!

Mula - 10-30-2012 at 04:49 PM

Whales aren't until January.
Road is bad.

clubfred - 10-30-2012 at 05:48 PM

Thanks everyone!

Should have clarified some points.

1. We're not traveling until February.
2. We are long-time ocean fanatics, fisher people, divers, etc, and have seen hundreds of whales from boats and on the shore. We want to go to San Ignacio because of the unique experience to be had with the Ballenas Amistosas in that location - the single best whale encounter of our lives. (Not that I need to explain myself to someone who's obviously just an angry person, who knows zero about me, but there you go).

I will look into taking one of the vans out and/or see what road conditions are like closer to the travel date.

Udo - 10-30-2012 at 06:01 PM

Ey, Fred...


Kujimás also runs a van to the lagoon, plus he runs the camping-cabins at the shore of the lagoon. (UNBELIEVABLE experience to listen to the whales spouting all night long.
They also have the coolest t-shirts, sweatshirts and jackets in all of Baja.
Their office is on the corner (south east corner) of the park, across the street from the mission.

[Edited on 10-31-2012 by Udo]

Udo - 10-30-2012 at 06:03 PM

Forgot to say earlier...

Reservations a MUST for travel in February, and watching whales
You may get lucky but why chance it?

Pescador - 10-30-2012 at 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by captkw
ummm,, how can I say this and not sound rude ??? whales are in the oceans of the world and a few go to baja to birth !! rather simple............... I have seen whales all over the pacific,cooks inlet,turn again arm,sea of cortez,,off gold's beach org. just about anywhere there salt water !!!!monterey bay ca....geeez you dont have to go anywhere to sea whales !! just get you butt away from that TV and get out and see the real world...........................................ps ricardo at rice and beans is a great guy and has a good van for the road !!

[Edited on 10-30-2012 by captkw]



Can someone please translate this?:?::?:

clubfred - 10-30-2012 at 06:12 PM

Thanks Udo! Awesome advice. Last time we were there it was the end of the season, so a lot quieter. We did spend the night in a little cabin and it was perfect. Can't recall the name of the operation but the daughter, (Ruby?), was a real sweetheart.

Pescador - translation: "I'm cranky". ;D

thebajarunner - 10-30-2012 at 06:18 PM

At the risk of sounding snitty (hope not)
That road, by Baja standards, is not such a bad road.
Just air down, take it easy over the wash board, put one set of wheels up on the berm (watch for 'sidewall biting rocks')
Lean back
Take your time
have cool Negras on hand

Piece of cake...

clubfred - 10-30-2012 at 06:24 PM

Lol, not snitty at all. I don't know how the road is now. We are off-road veterans and, believe me, the last time we took that road it automatically made it into our Top Three Worst Roads - and that was in a skookum off-road ride. If it's better now...huzzah!

I should also mention that despite the "Baja Junior" rating, we've spent many years down south. Just been busy visiting other countries in the last 6 years. We're also both former professional stunt performers, so we know all about tire pressure.

Whew, next time I should just post our CV's, right?

-Kristene

Quote:
Originally posted by thebajarunner
At the risk of sounding snitty (hope not)
That road, by Baja standards, is not such a bad road.
Just air down, take it easy over the wash board, put one set of wheels up on the berm (watch for 'sidewall biting rocks')
Lean back
Take your time
have cool Negras on hand

Piece of cake...

Ah, then a second piece of advice

thebajarunner - 10-30-2012 at 06:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by clubfred
Lol, not snitty at all. I don't know how the road is now. We are off-road veterans and, believe me, the last time we took that road it automatically made it into our Top Three Worst Roads - and that was in a skookum off-road ride. If it's better now...huzzah!

I should also mention that despite the "Baja Junior" rating, we've spent many years down south. Just been busy visiting other countries in the last 6 years. We're also both former professional stunt performers, so we know all about tire pressure.

Whew, next time I should just post our CV's, right?

-Kristene

Quote:
Originally posted by thebajarunner
At the risk of sounding snitty (hope not)
That road, by Baja standards, is not such a bad road.
Just air down, take it easy over the wash board, put one set of wheels up on the berm (watch for 'sidewall biting rocks')
Lean back
Take your time
have cool Negras on hand

Piece of cake...


Washboard roads are either 10 mph and teeth jarring,
or, get it up around 60 mph and it is smooth sailing.

Of course, there are certain inherent hazards in option #2.
Such as the time spent between 10 mph and 60 mph,
both in the ascending, and the descending.
and, some Baja curves tend to be quite difficult to navigate in a stock vehicle at 60 mph, especially a hard and washboard surface.
But, then again, that is where the fun begins....

And, San Ignacio whale experience is just over the top
Echo all the above and then some
well worth the rocky road.

(still trying to not be snitty:P)

clubfred - 10-30-2012 at 06:48 PM

You are succeeding in the non-snitty-ness. ;)

Yeah, "Six or sixty" as we like to say. There have been exceptions to that, though. Before the road to Punta Abreojos was paved? We actually vibrated all the screws in our camper door so much that it fell off...in the middle of the "worst sand storm in 12 years".

Learned some new words from hubby on that day!

Quote:
Originally posted by thebajarunner
Quote:
Originally posted by clubfred
Lol, not snitty at all. I don't know how the road is now. We are off-road veterans and, believe me, the last time we took that road it automatically made it into our Top Three Worst Roads - and that was in a skookum off-road ride. If it's better now...huzzah!

I should also mention that despite the "Baja Junior" rating, we've spent many years down south. Just been busy visiting other countries in the last 6 years. We're also both former professional stunt performers, so we know all about tire pressure.

Whew, next time I should just post our CV's, right?

-Kristene

Quote:
Originally posted by thebajarunner
At the risk of sounding snitty (hope not)
That road, by Baja standards, is not such a bad road.
Just air down, take it easy over the wash board, put one set of wheels up on the berm (watch for 'sidewall biting rocks')
Lean back
Take your time
have cool Negras on hand

Piece of cake...


Washboard roads are either 10 mph and teeth jarring,
or, get it up around 60 mph and it is smooth sailing.

Of course, there are certain inherent hazards in option #2.
Such as the time spent between 10 mph and 60 mph,
both in the ascending, and the descending.
and, some Baja curves tend to be quite difficult to navigate in a stock vehicle at 60 mph, especially a hard and washboard surface.
But, then again, that is where the fun begins....

And, San Ignacio whale experience is just over the top
Echo all the above and then some
well worth the rocky road.

(still trying to not be snitty:P)
;D

motoged - 10-30-2012 at 08:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by clubfred
.... We're also both former professional stunt performers, so we know all about tire pressure.

Whew, next time I should just post our CV's, right?

-Kristene



Well then, a bit of washboard shouldn't be a problem. :biggrin:

Navigating this forum is requires a bit of "tuck and roll" as well as a few layers of Nomex.

Have fun with the whales and let someone else shake their vehicle apart on that road.

Last time I was on it was two years ago on a 690 KTM ....riding with a broken fibula thanks to a silt bed halfway up from San Juanico....so I kept the throttle open until back at Ricardo's despite the road being horrible....even with bike suspension, it was merciless.

bajajudy - 10-31-2012 at 06:48 AM

Kiss a whale for me!

clubfred - 10-31-2012 at 07:03 AM

Yeah, I think those are good words for every Internet forum (there's always one - sometimes more than one). No worries, it takes more than one windbag to bruise my feelings. ;)

And...OW! That ride sounds horrific! Hope there was an ice cold cerveza waiting, after you got out of the hospital, that is.

Quote:
Originally posted by motoged
Quote:
Originally posted by clubfred
.... We're also both former professional stunt performers, so we know all about tire pressure.

Whew, next time I should just post our CV's, right?

-Kristene



Well then, a bit of washboard shouldn't be a problem. :biggrin:

Navigating this forum is requires a bit of "tuck and roll" as well as a few layers of Nomex.

Have fun with the whales and let someone else shake their vehicle apart on that road.

Last time I was on it was two years ago on a 690 KTM ....riding with a broken fibula thanks to a silt bed halfway up from San Juanico....so I kept the throttle open until back at Ricardo's despite the road being horrible....even with bike suspension, it was merciless.

Udo - 10-31-2012 at 07:20 AM

My sincerest apologies for addressing you as FRED, Kristene...I just assumed the "clubfred" was a male.

clubfred - 10-31-2012 at 07:31 AM

No worries! I usually try to make sure I sign my posts so that people know I am Mrs.Club Fred ;)

It works in reverse too. Fred plays poker online now and then, under a non-gender-specific name, and he uses a photo of me (with my first wahoo) as his avatar. The other male players often hit on him!

Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
My sincerest apologies for addressing you as FRED, Kristene...I just assumed the "clubfred" was a male.

David K - 10-31-2012 at 04:51 PM

I met Club Fred and Mr. Club Fred south of Mulege in 2001... Capt. Mike introduced us... My how time has passed by!!

Ken Bondy - 10-31-2012 at 04:59 PM

The last time I drove that road to the lagoon was in 2004 and the road was in reasonably good shape. Then again I was in a Hummer H1 and it pretty much goes wherever it wants to go. BTW the Kuyima experience was outstanding!