BajaNomad - Puertecitos - Laguna Chapala Road Construction Update

Puertecitos - Laguna Chapala Road Construction Update

bajaguy - 11-15-2012 at 12:55 PM

Translation from ensenada.net:

Article posted November 14, 2012
By Elizabeth Vargas

The modernization of the rural road-Laguna Chapala Puertecitos report a physical progress of 85 percent, for which, the Ministry of Communications and Transport through the SCT in Baja California Center invests 130 million pesos.

With a goal in 2012 of 16 kilometers, this work consists of widening and paving to 9 meters from kilometer 130 to 146 and generates approximately 145 direct jobs.

In the current administration, modernized open 71.2 kilometers, with a total investment of 677 million pesos.

With a total length of 126 kilometers, at the conclusion of the modernization of the rural road Puertecitos-Laguna Chapala, the transfer time is 90 minutes, compared to 7 hours before Shuttle modernization.

The work is part of the road axis Mexicali-San Felipe-Laguna Chapala Puertecitos, detonator project tourism and economic development for the region, to promote investment in a region known and visited for its natural scenery, beaches and sports activities, but their development had been hampered by the lack of adequate road infrastructure to access the area.

In turn, this axis represents a third alternative road transfer and communication to the south of the state, through a fast and secure way.

David K - 11-15-2012 at 01:11 PM

Third?

motoged - 11-15-2012 at 01:16 PM

David,
Probably: 1) Tijuana-Tecate to Ensenada to Hwy #1
2) Mexicali to Tecate/ Ensenada to Hwy #1
3) San Felipe south to Chapala to Hwy #1

I will draw a map later

David K - 11-15-2012 at 02:55 PM

Hi Ged... this is what it said: "In turn, this axis represents a third alternative road transfer and communication to the south of the state, through a fast and secure way."

I guess it depends on what they consider the "south of the state"?

To me, El Rosario across to Puertecitos is about halfway down the state... below those towns would be in the 'south half'.

Even if that line between north and south was drawn further north, say Camalu to San Felipe... there still are only two roads from north to south. So if Hwy. 5 is the 'third road' (according to the article), and Hwy. 1 is the first, what is the second?

Heck, even the El Camino Real is along the Hwy. 1 corridor between Camalu and El Rosario, so it can't be it! LOL

Give up

bajaguy - 11-15-2012 at 03:05 PM

David, David, David............you are trying to apply north-of-the-border logic to Baja........doesn't work.

David K - 11-15-2012 at 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
David, David, David............you are trying to apply north-of-the-border logic to Baja........doesn't work.

Yes, I know... silly me... :lol:

CortezBlue - 11-15-2012 at 04:31 PM

Bajaguy
Thanks for the information, this is good news for me as I plan my new home near Los Cerritos.

Hook - 11-15-2012 at 06:52 PM

126 kilometers in 90 minutes?????? Will it really be that fast?? That's a little under 90km/hr, isnt it?

So, 16 km completed in 2012. Was this a slow or a fast stretch for the roadworkers?

If 16km/year is a typical average, when might it be completed? Sometime in 2015?

David K - 11-15-2012 at 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Hook
126 kilometers in 90 minutes?????? Will it really be that fast?? That's a little under 90km/hr, isnt it?

So, 16 km completed in 2012. Was this a slow or a fast stretch for the roadworkers?

If 16km/year is a typical average, when might it be completed? Sometime in 2015?

It hasn't been that good. More like 10 kilometers a year.

wornout - 11-16-2012 at 03:51 PM

I believe most of the delay was due to two natural disasters. One was the Easter earthquake a year ago and the other was storm damage to Hwy 1. All the construction crews were pulled off the Puertecitos to Chapala job for the repairs necessary for these two events.

generubin - 11-18-2012 at 09:26 PM

Sadly, the high adventure of the dirt road from Puertecitos to Luguna Chapala is forever gone. Hopefully paving the road won't result in big trucks, trash and development.

RnR - 11-19-2012 at 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
Translation from ensenada.net:

"detonator" tourism and economic development

Something lost in translation???

ie: detonate, explode, jumpstart, give a big boost......

or

is the new road passing through a military training range......

Big Trucks

TMW - 11-19-2012 at 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by generubin
Sadly, the high adventure of the dirt road from Puertecitos to Luguna Chapala is forever gone. Hopefully paving the road w:bounce

n't result in big trucks, trash and development.

I saw an 18 wheeler go by Cocos Friday.

generubin - 11-19-2012 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by TW

Quote:

Originally posted by generubin
Sadly, the high adventure of the dirt road from Puertecitos to Luguna Chapala is forever gone. Hopefully paving the road w:bounce

n't result in big trucks, trash and development.

I saw an 18 wheeler go by Cocos Friday.

Ouch, we'll have to wait for the coming ice age to come and go before that side of Baja is ever the same.

David K - 11-19-2012 at 08:44 AM

The avoiding of all the towns and shorter distance to Mexicali and the mainland will have semis using Hwy. 5.

generubin - 11-19-2012 at 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by David K
The avoiding of all the towns and shorter distance to Mexicali and the mainland will have semis using Hwy. 5.

I suppose for the Mexican truck drivers the paving of this road is heaven. Just last March 2012 we were in Gonzaga and all was quite as there was still washboard dirt north of Gonzaga and all the way to Mexico One. I remember 30 years ago when once you were off of Alphonsina's property the beach was free and clear of palapas or any structures at all. I guess I just have to count myself lucky for having seen it, camped it and lived it.

I take that back about waiting for the ice age. Peak oil is upon us, we are looking at 10 years or 20 at the most and there'll be no more oil to drive our cars and trucks. I hope I'm not too old to ride my mountain bike to Baja.

[Edited on 11-19-2012 by generubin]

woody with a view - 11-19-2012 at 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by David K
The avoiding of all the towns and shorter distance to Mexicali and the mainland will have semis using Hwy. 5.

that's awesome! less traffic on the 1.

David K - 11-19-2012 at 08:58 AM

Don't worry about oil, under North Dakota and other American states is more oil than under Saudi Arabia... of course the prosperity and economic freedom it will unleash has a lot to do with who is in political control that bows to special interests or foreign oil producers.

wornout - 11-19-2012 at 09:20 AM

Quote from the first post: "The modernization of the rural road-Laguna Chapala Puertecitos report a physical progress of 85 percent,"

I don't understand the article stating 85% of the road is done. The last report I read is the road is still not done all the way to Gonzaga, let alone from there to Hwy 1.

Again, I have not heard or read anything about any work even started on the Gonzaga-Chapala section so how could they claim 85% is done?.

David K - 11-19-2012 at 09:57 AM

Perhaps the roadwork portion that has been funded is 85% done?
Anything to make politicians sound successful by a willing media, who don't personally check facts! :light:

wornout - 11-19-2012 at 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Perhaps the roadwork portion that has been funded is 85% done?
Anything to make politicians sound successful by a willing media, who don't personally check facts! :light:

Well, that makes sense and the part that is done between Puertecitos and Gonzaga is 85% complete in my rough estimates.

David K - 11-19-2012 at 10:10 AM

Sure, the project took so long because they only got funding for 10 kilometers at a time... stopping production every 6.2 miles... really stupid... but nice that it delayed the highway reaching Gonzaga for so long.

The nearly 400 miles from San Quintin to almost Santa Rosalia was all built and paved in ONE YEAR (1973). So, it can be done quickly with enough funding!

The new highway south from Puertecitos didn't get started until 2007, and 5 years later it is just over 31 miles completed.

durrelllrobert - 11-19-2012 at 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Sure, the project took so long because they only got funding for 10 kilometers at a time... stopping production every 6.2 miles... really stupid...

I just drove the 94 miles of MX highway 2 between San Luis to Sonya in Sonara and it's the same thing except that there are 9 different 6.2 mile stretches under various stages completion (56 miles total) and very long dirt and rock detours (35 miles total) in between. Took 4 hours to go the 94 miles following tractor trailers creeping through those detours.

David K - 11-19-2012 at 05:59 PM

That had to be painful! I remember how terribly dusty it was when they were working on Hwy. 5 in the Rio Hardy area if you got behind semis.

durrelllrobert - 11-20-2012 at 09:43 AM

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Originally posted by David K
That had to be painful! I remember how terribly dusty it was when they were working on Hwy. 5 in the Rio Hardy area if you got behind semis.

Yep, hundreds of semis and the only other passenger car we saw on any of the detours was the Federal police that zoomed by the trucks into oncoming traffis with so much dust you couldn't see more than 50 ft ahead.