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Any input about Bahia de Los Angeles

Retireded - 12-25-2012 at 10:42 AM

Merry Christmas All,
Can anyone offer any input about the Bahia de Los Angeles area? I have been offered the opportunity to buy a piece of land there, semi improved, for what seems a very reasonable price. In the event we buy, I'll probably look for a mobile to set up there for a start. I'm looking for general info about the area, What to expect if I move there, etc. Any input will be appreciated as I have never yet been there. We are thinking of taking a ride sometime in the next few weeks to look it over. Ensenada is as far south as we have ventured thus far, living in El Sauzal, but the wanderlust is getting under my skin again, and I fully intend to see as much of this beautiful place as I can now that I've made it this far.

EnsenadaDr - 12-25-2012 at 10:53 AM

My opinion is to go ahead and visit these places, but as far as living there full time, there is the problem of getting adequate healthcare attention, unless you have an arm and a leg to pay a private hospital and/or air ambulance service. I also like the proximity of being near the US border for that same reason. El Sauzal is a great location, and close to whatever you might need. The other places can get unbearably hot in the summers.

[Edited on 12-25-2012 by EnsenadaDr]

desertcpl - 12-25-2012 at 10:54 AM

I think you need to take some time and look around a bit, Bahia is a beautiful place for sure, but it might not be for every one IMHO

willardguy - 12-25-2012 at 10:58 AM

all good advise. you need somewhere to flee come summer! (jmo)

woody with a view - 12-25-2012 at 10:59 AM

great place.

desertcpl - 12-25-2012 at 11:18 AM

well I think we all are getting ahead of our selfs, the OP didnt say he/they was going to live there year around

Retireded - 12-25-2012 at 11:34 AM

A ctually, we're not thinking year'round residence, but more of a getaway now and then. 4 sons interested in chipping in to make it a family shared vacation spot. One concern is the safety or the place while unoccupied, I have heard horror stories from some places, but may think of renting it out at least part time, possibly more than one mobile or structure would allow it to be occupied year round, just not by us.

desertcpl - 12-25-2012 at 11:43 AM

you need some input from Paulina, she has lived there along time and nows whats going on, you might also try looking and posting on the Bahia site also, and you can ask question for Mia which runs the site

http://www.bahiadelosangeles.info/

larryC - 12-25-2012 at 11:43 AM

I live there most of the time and like it alot. Lots to do, fishing, diving, exploring old ranchos, old gold mines or just hiking. I even have a house for sale there. It is worth a look to see if you like the area. I also like the Loreto area alot. I like Bahia because it is only a 1 day drive back to the border. Like Ensenada Dr says though if you have health issues Bahia may not be the place for you. There is a clinic there with a doctor most of the time but it is very basic. No lab or surgical capabilities. Where or what part of bahia is the property you have been offered near? Electricity is available in most areas except south of town. The road south of town has recently been surveyed and is scheduled for paving in the near future. I suspect that power lines will follow soon after the paving.
Larry

Ateo - 12-25-2012 at 12:58 PM

Nice place for sure if you have AC in the summer.

DENNIS - 12-25-2012 at 01:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Retireded
I have been offered the opportunity to buy a piece of land there, semi improved, for what seems a very reasonable price.


If you, or someone in your family, isn't a national, you'll have to buy it with a fideocomiso, a bank trust. If you're being offered any, as in ANY, alternative to that method, drain your beer glass and run like hell.

bajajeffrey - 12-25-2012 at 01:24 PM

IMHO...The real Baja doesn't start UNTIL your south of Ensenada. (small towns and no hustle)
You would still be a days trip from the border, a plus.
The Museum is a good First stop in BOLA, great place to get the skinny on where to eat, stay, etc....
Might want to consider buying something already built a and fixing it up.
Make sure to stop and get out of the car at first sight of the bay and take it all in.

Places to live

bacquito - 12-25-2012 at 01:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
My opinion is to go ahead and visit these places, but as far as living there full time, there is the problem of getting adequate healthcare attention, unless you have an arm and a leg to pay a private hospital and/or air ambulance service. I also like the proximity of being near the US border for that same reason. El Sauzal is a great location, and close to whatever you might need. The other places can get unbearably hot in the summers.

[Edited on 12-25-2012 by EnsenadaDr]


I agree with the Dr. I am 71 and live in Ensenada because it is a great town to live in but it is also close to the border in case of medical attention if needed. I am registered with Seguro Popular in case of an emergencies. I can visit BOLA, San Quintin and other places.
Why don't you consider Ensenada, south of Ensenada such as Punta Banda?

24baja - 12-25-2012 at 01:59 PM

I would encourage you to visit, and then conact Larry C about his turnkey place it is a good deal especially with 4 partners. Also contact Carolina at the museum there as she has infor on the house toward LaGringa that is for sale. Our house there has brought us much joy and happiness, views to die for, fishing is great and the people are friendly and glad to see you......good luck! Connie and Brett

bkbend - 12-25-2012 at 04:18 PM

When I retireded it was where I chose to hang my hat for half the year and I think it's a great place. But, it may not be for everyone so be sure to check it out closely and see if it fits with what you are looking for. LarryC nailed the to-dos but there are some challenges due to remoteness (the remoteness is also a plus in many ways). The cost of living is a little higher and the nearest ATM is 120 miles away are two challenges that bubble to the top of the list. No problems with safety while you are there, security while gone will probably depend on your proximity to other residents who can keep an eye on your place when you're gone. If you visit and like it, try and find other places for sale so you can compare and see if what you are looking at really is a reasonable price.

DENNIS - 12-25-2012 at 04:28 PM

Hey...all you LA Bayites....He says someone wants to sell him some land down there......reasonable.
Is that happening? Anything he should watch out for?
Maybe he needs a quick course in Mex real estate.

bkbend - 12-25-2012 at 05:33 PM

I see a lot of signs advertising property for sale, so apparently there is land for sale. I'm certainly not qualified to know what one would need to look out for in the purchase of property in this area, I lease and can walk away with minimal financial damage.

liknbaja127 - 12-25-2012 at 06:41 PM

We will be heading down, this week end. can try to get some picts. if you can get
me the area info. Hope it works out for you guys, Its is a beauitful place!
.

bajagrouper - 12-25-2012 at 06:55 PM

It has been awhile since I have been there, I remember they turned off the generator at 10 PM and it was very windy...Do they have electricity there now? Solar?

24baja - 12-25-2012 at 07:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bajagrouper
It has been awhile since I have been there, I remember they turned off the generator at 10 PM and it was very windy...Do they have electricity there now? Solar?


yes they have power south of town to red hill and 5 mi north of town. we still have solar.

Retireded - 12-25-2012 at 09:30 PM

Wow,
What a great response. When I was living in Port Orchard, Wa. and thinking of coming here some friends advised me to check out Baja Nomads. I can't thank them enough. What a great bunch. Thank you all for the great responses and advice. I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks. We will be taking a ride sometime soon to look it over and probably make a side trip to Asuncion while we are at it. My wife and I are both very happy to be here and plan to make Baja our home for a long time to come. We are both looking forward to seeing much more of it as time, health, and all the other variables permit.
Thanks again to all who responded, and we look forward to meeting some of you. In the time we have been here our social life has been limited, spending most of our time just enjoying this beautiful place and each others company. It is a whole new life, and we are taking it slow. Living in El Sauzal for over a month, and as yet unaware whether not there is even a cantina in the town. We stopped at Hussong's when we first arrived, and have made one more trip there a week later. Interesting place, recommended by an old friend in Wa. We do intend to get out more and meet more people over the next few weeks.

Marc - 12-26-2012 at 08:10 AM

There's no cell phone service. There are a couple of internet shops where calls can be made...for a price.

baitcast - 12-26-2012 at 09:34 AM

Been there many times over the years,the fishing can still be good,the seeing is great,over all a super place to spent some time.

O yes it can get a little warm come August and September:lol:
Rob

DENNIS - 12-26-2012 at 09:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Retireded
I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks. We will be taking a ride sometime soon


You may be getting a ride you didn't bargain for in your negotiations with your "friends."
I just can't believe other Nomads, who are aware of the problems, haven't checked in here to make you aware of the land mines in real estate dealings in Mexico. They seem to be sitting back, telling you of the great views, and saying zero about the pitfalls you seem to be unaware of.
First and foremost.........no one will give you a good screwing faster than those "really nice folks" you mentioned.

It can all go downhill from there.

I'm going to let this go so you can ask some pertinant questions concerning foreigners owning land in Mexico. if you don't look into it, we'll all just watch you swing in the wind, and while you do, I feel you would be entitled to ask these LA Bay cheerleaders why they didn't say something when they were asked.

Land & houses in mexico

captkw - 12-26-2012 at 10:02 AM

Hola,,I agree with DENNIS very much !! It can be like walking through a meadow near yosemite, but filled with land mines!! Take your time and be careful... there is more horrer storys than you would ever guess !! and there are a lot of happy endings Too !! K&T:cool:

MMc - 12-26-2012 at 10:31 AM

I do enjoy Bay of L. A. but I wouldn't want to live there full time. It's a long way for supplies. G. N is where most go for basic supplies, anything major is a long drive.
Please rent something there for a couple of months before you buy. A short visit is nothing like a long stay, also you'll get to know the real deals and true worth of things. There is the local price, the gringo price and the P-nche gringo price.
The first rule of owning property in Mexico, DON'T INVEST MORE THEN YOU'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO WALK AWAY FROM
Often the seller will double the expected price to see what happens.

24baja - 12-26-2012 at 11:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Retireded
I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks. We will be taking a ride sometime soon


You may be getting a ride you didn't bargain for in your negotiations with your "friends."
I just can't believe other Nomads, who are aware of the problems, haven't checked in here to make you aware of the land mines in real estate dealings in Mexico. They seem to be sitting back, telling you of the great views, and saying zero about the pitfalls you seem to be unaware of.
First and foremost.........no one will give you a good screwing faster than those "really nice folks" you mentioned.

It can all go downhill from there.

I'm going to let this go so you can ask some pertinant questions concerning foreigners owning land in Mexico. if you don't look into it, we'll all just watch you swing in the wind, and while you do, I feel you would be entitled to ask these LA Bay cheerleaders why they didn't say something when they were asked.



I didn't say anything because we Lease our land own our house......we are content with that. And Dennis your tone is kinda rude....

David K - 12-26-2012 at 11:20 AM

Port Orchard? One of your neighbors has a place at L.A. Bay... Oh Debra, you out there?

bajaguy - 12-26-2012 at 12:10 PM

For short stays, I would either rent a motel room or rent a house from someone down there.

DENNIS - 12-26-2012 at 01:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 24baja
And Dennis your tone is kinda rude....


KINDA rude? Thanks for telling me. I'll have to work on that, fer sure. Anything worth doing is worth doing well. :lol:



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[Edited on 12-26-2012 by DENNIS]

David K - 12-26-2012 at 02:19 PM

Well, if anyone was going to consider living anywhere they really need to visit the place, see what is (and isn't) there. It is a desert fishing village on an incredibly beautiful, island filled bay with summer temps well into the 100's and very cold in the winter... snow even on top of the 4,000' peaks just south of town on rare winters.

Strong winds and dust storms are typical in the spring and chubascos and flash floods in the late summer and fall.

Fresh water is a premium and supplies may be interrupted. 24 hour power from Guerrero Negro arrived just a few years ago and cell service while not yet there, could be coming soon.

The history is fascinating and dates back to the native Indians who had a rancheria (settlement) here. The Spanish explorers named the bay and the nearby mission at San Borja established a visita at Los Angeles Bay to serve the natives. A spring of sweet water still supplies some of the town's water and is located at the base of the mountain that comes down to the town. Indian artifacts were recovered here by a team lead by William Massey, 50 years ago.

The discovery of gold and silver to the south of town at Santa Marta and San Juan and gold west at Desengaņo brought modern settlers to the bay and some, like Dick Daggett and Antero Diaz stayed. Diaz built the first tourist resort for fly-in guests in the 1940's. By the 1960's, pilots were the primary guests but more and more drove the 300 dirt miles to enjoy the fishing, adventures and Sra. Diaz world famous turtle steak dinners.

The 1970's saw a big influx of RV campers with the building of the paved Highway 1 and graded road into Bahia de los Angeles (which was paved in a few more years)... Casa Diaz had competition with the opening of the Villa Vita Hotel and many stayed at the government trailer park north of town.

Children of the original founders of the town continue operating motels, campgrounds, fishing guides and many new residents have added to the population.

For a few years the dream of an Escalera Nautica 'sea bridge' to bring yachts from the Pacific across to the gulf was exciting locals. A new highway to the new port of Santa Rosalillita was built and the route to Bahia de los Angeles had paved turnouts added frequently so cars could pass the special truck/trailers that were to ferry yachts from Santa Rosalillita on the Pacific to Bahia de los Angeles. The idea died when the reality of costs, and reduced prosperity in America killed the potential customer base.

Now, Bahia de los Angeles is a pretty quiet village with the drop in tourism. The only big event seems to be when the Baja 1000 off road race passes through here every 2-4 years when the race makes a run down the length of the peninsula.








The viewpoint is a pullout as you first see the panorama of the bay. Photos from July, 2012.

[Edited on 12-26-2012 by David K]

mtgoat666 - 12-26-2012 at 03:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Retireded
Merry Christmas All,
Can anyone offer any input about the Bahia de Los Angeles area? I have been offered the opportunity to buy a piece of land there, semi improved, for what seems a very reasonable price. ... Any input will be appreciated as I have never yet been there. We are thinking of taking a ride sometime in the next few weeks to look it over. Ensenada is as far south as we have ventured thus far,...


re BOLA, nice place to visit, would not want to live there long term. can be uncomfortably hot and/or windy. is a long ways away from any conveniences.

advice: rent before you buy, and visit for a weekend before you rent for a month.

Udo - 12-26-2012 at 04:40 PM

I'm in BOLA right now, and I have seen some people having cell phones in their hand.

VERY nice place to visit as well as live, but somewhat sparse in commodities.
Couple of nice taco stands as well as several restaurants. And We are staying at the Costa Del Sol Hotel...which HAS INTERNET WIFI!
We walked to the light house on the sand bar. Very nice walk.
Quote:
Originally posted by Marc
There's no cell phone service. There are a couple of internet shops where calls can be made...for a price.

Rude? A realist!

thebajarunner - 12-26-2012 at 09:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by 24baja
And Dennis your tone is kinda rude....


KINDA rude? Thanks for telling me. I'll have to work on that, fer sure. Anything worth doing is worth doing well. :lol:



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[Edited on 12-26-2012 by DENNIS]




Dennis is spot on! Wise words.

LABay is a grungy town, sorry to say
My traveling gang has a fixation on the place. Been there often. Would not want to live there
Udo...no cell service six months ago
I suspect they were $atphone$

Marc - 12-26-2012 at 09:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
I'm in BOLA right now, and I have seen some people having cell phones in their hand.

VERY nice place to visit as well as live, but somewhat sparse in commodities.
Couple of nice taco stands as well as several restaurants. And We are staying at the Costa Del Sol Hotel...which HAS INTERNET WIFI!
We walked to the light house on the sand bar. Very nice walk.


Quote:
Originally posted by Marc
There's no cell phone service. There are a couple of internet shops where calls can be made...for a price.


We saw hand held satellite phone being used. No cell service in October.

BOLARNR - 12-27-2012 at 12:41 AM

I've been going to my place in LA Bay for 8 yrs and I'm glad to get there and only sorry when I leave. It's not for everyone, no place is, but to get away and experience the desert and the water in one place,................ invaluable. To be woke up by a noisy pod of Dolphins chasing a bait ball or an occasional Whale with a sinus problem....... incredible. Sure it can be windy, hot and inconvenient. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Oh yea, I lease :cool:

Lobsterman - 12-27-2012 at 07:57 AM

LA Bay is one of my favorite locations to fish in baja. The fish are abundant and delicious to eat. The weather changes are sudden and dramatic, i.e. beautiful one minute and 50 mph winds the next. We were lucky to get back alive once under those conditions. The blowing dust from the winds is a definate problem. It gets everywhere.

I had planned on leasing a home there once I retired a few years back before the current crime wave that is affecting most of baja. You use to be able to camp out on lonely beaches without fear or leave your possessions unguarded. Those days are gone forever. My guess it's the drug use of the locals and the cartels that has caused a major decrease from visitors from NOB, thus a poorer needy population. So do not bring and leave anything in baja that you want to keep. Everything left behind must be expendable.

It's been 5 years since I've ventured south from San Diego. I have plans to re-kindle my baja fishing adventures again before I get too old to do them. LA Bay is on the short list for a return probably late spring before I forget my favorite fishing holes. I found the town quite adequate for anything you might need and less than a 16 hour drive from the border. Since I'm not too fond of the attitudes and philosophies of most NOB people, I like the solitude and peace and quiet you find there without them.

Here's a expose' on my last fishing trip there from 2007.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...

[Edited on 12-27-2012 by Lobsterman]

have not been there for 15/19 yrs

captkw - 12-27-2012 at 08:00 AM

but,,,the 2 times I have,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND,,WIND!!!!!

David K - 12-27-2012 at 09:06 AM

Nice pics Lobsterman!

Capt. KW, go in the summer as winds mostly in the spring.

November was also nice... photos from Nov. 2006, following the Baja 1000:

At Guillermo's:



Up at La Gringa:



Smith Island volcano:



Leaving the bay:

Hook - 12-27-2012 at 09:31 AM

Verily, it is the WIND and the unusually cold water (for the SoC) that keeps BOLA, a place with:

-proximity; a days drive from the border
-pavement all the way
-decent restaurants and lodging
-adequate supplies, including fuel
-superb scenery
-decent fishing

still feeling like it is remote.

The famous winds make returning only an occasional thing, if you dont have a place there. When I was working and had limited vacation time, I realized that a big chunk of it could be spent stranded on the beach in the wind. It was better to drive farther south, usually to the SLC/Mulege area. Especially true in the winter/spring months. Then, July-September become too hot to camp at night, though nice during the day. The best months for me were June and late October.

This is a fisherman's perspective.

Did you notice. No pix of town?

thebajarunner - 12-27-2012 at 09:32 AM

Great water
Great desert
Grungy town

David K

captkw - 12-27-2012 at 09:36 AM

Your right,,both times Ive been there where early spring and Strong relentless wind...Myslf have no interest for summer..Thats time for more northern Lats.....K&T

David K - 12-27-2012 at 09:38 AM

Driving into town, from the south:



Stupid divided street makes us do a U-Turn to get to China's (Cheeena) taco stand:



Just north of the Las Hamacas:



Next door to this Internet & market place Lizeth:





There's China!

Note the got baja? sticker, lower left...:light::cool:

[Edited on 12-27-2012 by David K]

DENNIS - 12-27-2012 at 10:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by thebajarunner

Rude? A realist!


Dennis is spot on! Wise words.



Thanks for that, Dick. I appreciate it.

My concern was, and still is, that it seems like the Nomad spirit was missing in the responses to someone saying he was contemplating a land purchase down there, while seemingly navigating in the dark on realestate dealings in Mexico. These old time residents of LA Bay can't be uninformed to this as well as having opinions about the local selling the land, but they remained silent.

Not that far back here, the board would have been innundated with warnings concerning land purchases and the hazards then still exist today.
I just found it strange that those in the know wouldn't address this issue.

larryC - 12-27-2012 at 11:03 AM

Dennis
There did not seem to be a reason to lecture the man on buying property in Mex. He lives in the Enenada area now. He asked for input on the LA bay area. "I'm looking for general info about the area, What to expect if I move there, etc." ( a quote rom his first post) So most of us LA Bayers told him what he wanted to hear. If he wants advice on buying property I suspect he'll ask for it.
Larry

DENNIS - 12-27-2012 at 11:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by larryC
Dennis
There did not seem to be a reason to lecture the man on buying property in Mex. He lives in the Enenada area now.


He just recently moved there, Larry. He's a greenhorn Noobie.

These are his statements:

"I have been offered the opportunity to buy a piece of land there, semi improved, for what seems a very reasonable price."

"I know the current owners somewhat as I currently rent from them and they are really nice folks."


If these arn't cries for help of a more than basic Chamber of Commerce variety, then I'm deluded.

desertcpl - 12-27-2012 at 11:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lobsterman
LA Bay is one of my favorite locations to fish in baja. The fish are abundant and delicious to eat. The weather changes are sudden and dramatic, i.e. beautiful one minute and 50 mph winds the next. We were lucky to get back alive once under those conditions. The blowing dust from the winds is a definate problem. It gets everywhere.

I had planned on leasing a home there once I retired a few years back before the current crime wave that is affecting most of baja. You use to be able to camp out on lonely beaches without fear or leave your possessions unguarded. Those days are gone forever. My guess it's the drug use of the locals and the cartels that has caused a major decrease from visitors from NOB, thus a poorer needy population. So do not bring and leave anything in baja that you want to keep. Everything left behind must be expendable.

It's been 5 years since I've ventured south from San Diego. I have plans to re-kindle my baja fishing adventures again before I get too old to do them. LA Bay is on the short list for a return probably late spring before I forget my favorite fishing holes. I found the town quite adequate for anything you might need and less than a 16 hour drive from the border. Since I'm not too fond of the attitudes and philosophies of most NOB people, I like the solitude and peace and quiet you find there without them.

Here's a expose' on my last fishing trip there from 2007.
http://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/baja-mexico-fishing-reports...

[Edited on 12-27-2012 by Lobsterman]




very well said, you put it into perspective

Hook - 12-27-2012 at 12:41 PM

Well, it's been more than a few years since I've been there. It was still on the diesel genny AND THAT BUTT UGLY MEDIAN THROUGH TOWN WASNT THERE!!! But the Pemex stations had re-opened, after a lengthy absence from town.

What were they thinking with that median?

Oh yeah, more money for the contractor...... :rolleyes:

BoLA

Retireded - 12-27-2012 at 06:01 PM

I do not think any of the responses I have received are in any way inappropriate. I asked for input, any and all, in order to better educate myself as to what I may get into if I proceed to attempt to purchase this property, and ALL of the responses I've gotten have been helpful. I have not felt anyone over or under encouraging with the responses, but rather offering what advice and info they have to share. I thank you, one and all for sharing so freely, and am very thankful to the folks who steered me to this site. I was told that this site is a great source of info, and after being on here for a few months, I have found that to be true. I could not have asked to be introduced to a better bunch of people. I hope, in time, I will be able to offer the same help to other newbies.
After reading all the responses I have gotten, I have decided a purchase in that area is not in our best interest, and will probably just keep my eyes open for something affordable in this area. I may just continue to rent right here where we are as it is quite comfortabel and affordable, and spend what time we can traveling and seeing as much of the rest of this beautiful place as we can. Thank you, one and all, and I look forward to meeting you all in time.
Retired Ed

805gregg - 12-27-2012 at 07:15 PM

I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post. It's actually easier for the drug cartels to sell drugs in Mexico.

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woody with a view - 12-27-2012 at 07:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 805gregg
I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post.

[Edited on 12-28-2012 by 805gregg]


BS! i'm not saying there isn't speed freaks everywhere, but post up a link to your source! someone told a guy something and now it's gospel..... moroon! if you can't look out for yourselves don't leave the comfort of your dungeon!:lol:

805gregg - 12-30-2012 at 07:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
Quote:
Originally posted by 805gregg
I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post.

[Edited on 12-28-2012 by 805gregg]


BS! i'm not saying there isn't speed freaks everywhere, but post up a link to your source! someone told a guy something and now it's gospel..... moroon! if you can't look out for yourselves don't leave the comfort of your dungeon!:lol:


Link is ADVriders, forum ride reports, ride report by "We quit our jobs sold our house and went riding" they are in Baja now in La Paz, they just left BofLA and the people they stayed with are in pictures. . Start on page 14 with post #549. Check it out and get your head out of the sand. Why are you calling me names, I didn't write the report or say anything about B of LA, just passing on what the people that live there said. The exact quote from Dan that lives there is " not all is paradise, there's a large drug problem in town and as aresult rampant property theft from the tweekers to suport their crystal meth habit" Not my words , it was Ken that lives there , but I'm sure you know better than him from OB. I was in Eredira on my motorcycle a few years ago, camping in the sand in front Coyote Cals, the owner warned me to not leave anything in my tent or on my moto, because of the theiving drug using locals. True heard from the owner's mouth to my ears. I expect an apology from you Woody, are you man enough? Gregg

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baitcast - 12-31-2012 at 08:42 AM

Love the shots of town,hey what more could a guy ask for,the hotter it gets the better the fishing and thats a fact,Gonzaga and BOLA luv them both!!
Rob

woody with a view - 12-31-2012 at 08:48 AM

Gregg, all i'm saying is post up a link. maybe copy and past the address from page 15. why should i have to dig to verify your story? and in the spirit of men everywhere, i'm sorry if i offended you....

:spingrin::tumble::rolleyes: happy new year!

Pescador - 12-31-2012 at 09:09 AM

I love how the reports and information get generated but they almost always have some small connection to the truth. I was told the same thing by a lot of people about how theft was rampant and you had to be really careful after dark because the tweakers were rampant and everywhere. I have lived in a small fishing village for over 5 years and I have come to know the people who are using drugs, it is common knowledge and readily available if you just learn to speak the language and talk to the locals. I am a little more diligent about making sure the doors to my storage buildings are locked and in 5 years have only lost a small amount of money from a guy who played the game and looked like an upstanding citizen and one real idiot who broke into a lot of houses and managed to steal a couple of fishing poles that we used for bait rods. So that was like going to school and paying a little tuition.

I find the pleasures of living in a small town far outweigh the conveniences available in larger towns and prefer the transquility over the bustle of the city. I can get excited about spending a few days in La Paz but am always very relieved to get home.

Because of the small size of the town, I find that I know most of the people and they have come to know me. I am able to follow the families and their losses as well as their achievements. Most have learned that I am not a "rich gringo handout" but that I can be counted on to help repair fishing tackle, fix a few things, and generally share in what goes on in the village.

For me, the fishing was a very important part of where I wanted to spend my retirement and greatly added to my choice of locations. We spent the better part of 10 years traveling all over the Baja before finally settling in on a location that was the best compromise. And, rest assured, everywhere is a compromise but if you figure out what is most important to you personally, then it is fairly easy to find a workable solution. For example, we have a poorly developed health care system in our area, so I have no illusions that treatment here is every going to match what is available in La Paz or Ensenada / Tijuana, but I am not interested in living in either of those areas, so instead, I keep an evacuation policy that can be used at my discretion if the need should arise.

But I actually like all the hearsay and rumors that fly and oftentimes give that information to newcomers who show an interest in settling in this area. It kinda keeps out the people who truly don't belong here anyway.

Martyman - 12-31-2012 at 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by 805gregg
I just read a moto ride report from a couple that stayed there with a couple that lived there, all is not good in paradise. The Bof LA couple told the moto rider that there was rampant drug abuse (speed) so also rampant theft to suport the habit. Rent don't buy in Baja, drugs are even in all the small towns. I saw my friends buy pot and coke in a very small town right across from the military post. It's actually easier for the drug cartels to sell drugs in Mexico.

[Edited on 12-28-2012 by 805gregg]

[Edited on 12-28-2012 by 805gregg]


So...just ask anyone near a military post and I can score too. Do they have 'shrooms?