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Directv multiswitch issue

bajadaze - 1-28-2013 at 10:37 AM

Hello all you wizards,
As you know I don't qualify for that or I wouldn't be clicking keys on my keyboard at this moment. Here's my dilemma,
I have a vacation home in the wilderness and have set up a 6 foot dish and I have a DTV32+ LNB with 2 outlets on it. One coax goes to my detached garage while the other one goes to the house. Now, I have the single coax feed centralized in the house where all of the coax feeds from other parts of the house meet. I tried to to use a multiswitch (WNC DIRECTV Splitter MSPLIT4R1-01 2-2150 MHz) and it tried to work but lost the signal. So in my research I went to an installation guide by Directv and found a diagram for my issue. The following is the URL that I went to. satinstalltraining.com. This is when I threw in the towel and decided to get help from you guys.
So I'm sure that I need a power source but I don't want to be obtaining anything before I know that I am headed in the right direction. That being said, I need some good guy out there to advise me on whether or not this is something that is a simple task and the what's and how's of putting the proper pieces in place. I did notice that the diagrams that I saw showed a phone line attached to the back of the receiver. No phone here so I don't know if that is an issue or not. By the way my receivers are Directv's standard D 12-100.
Okay, Can someone with a little knowledge please tell me if this is possible with the information I've provided or will it not work? And a little guidance would be much appreciated. Thank You all so much in advance. Bob...

mrfatboy - 1-28-2013 at 10:59 AM

If the nomads don't have an answer post your question in this forum.

http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&...

Very smart and helpful forum just like the nomads but for satellite tv :)

bajadaze - 1-28-2013 at 11:10 AM

Thanks for that info. I did go there first and copied and pasted my question to Nomad after I wrote it. Thanks for the tip though.

Bob and Susan - 1-28-2013 at 01:02 PM

i have a multi-switch box but i use DISH

i thought direct tv was spot-beamed and didnt work this far south

the box need to located as close to the "horn" as possible
tie it to the legof the antenna then run separate wires to your direct tv boxes in the garage and the house

you need the "correct" cable and the "correct" crimping tool too

maybe the box you have is bad

bajadaze - 1-28-2013 at 01:21 PM

Yea, the footprint is weak so everyone here uses the 2 meter dish. Works fine except during seasonal changes where we'll have channels that get broken up and start sputtering. But I would like to have more receivers in the house as the wife and I often like different programs. I actually had it working at one time with splitters but it weakened the signal and was not able to get as many channels. So I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row and get the job done without having to buy one of everything. And do it one time correct.

Bob and Susan - 1-28-2013 at 01:35 PM

you box should look like this at the antenna close to the horn

box.jpg - 43kB

bajadaze - 1-28-2013 at 05:42 PM

The forum that I'm listening to wants me to use something similar to that but here is a url of the part they are recommending.

http://www.amazon.com/Zinwell-Direct-Wb68-Mutiswitch-6x8/dp/...

CortezBlue - 1-28-2013 at 06:34 PM

So, I guess I want to verify, you are using a 6 foot dish for DirecTV?? Are you in an area outside the CONUS??

I am not familiar with this type of setup, but I will tell you, I have had 2 different Multiswitches in my tenure with DirecTV and the Zinwell is the latest one that I have for my "newer" HD dish with 5 LNB's on it. I think I would probably take the earlier advise and shoot out the question the DBS forum.

bajadaze - 1-28-2013 at 10:00 PM

yes I am using the 2 meter dish and I have been using DBS forum for what is great information. I think that I have the issue solved thanks to them...

larryC - 1-28-2013 at 10:11 PM

Are you trying to get HD signals? Or just the feed from the 101satand standard definition? If just from the 101 then you don't need any multi switches just a dual lnb and run a coax from the lnb to each receiver. if you are trying to get HD signals then you are going to need the correct lnb for the dish you are using so that you can recieve signals from the 101, 99 and the 103 sat. With that setup you will need an 8 way multi switch and a 29v power inserter. I have to use a 4' dish here in boLA to get HD signals, the dish and lnb are not cheap.
larry

bajadaze - 1-28-2013 at 11:53 PM

No HD. just want to use multiple standard definition receivers to use throughout the house. I was able to just split my single coax cable coming into the house but it would weaken or lose the signal. I've been getting some good info from DBSTalk. Think I have it figured out. We are in a weak footprint here in Chivato which is the reason for the 2 meter dish. Going to a Directv wb68 Dtv 6x8 Switch.
thanks for posting.

larryC - 1-29-2013 at 09:22 AM

If you are using more than 2 reveivers in your house then the multiswitch is a much better option than trying to split the signal. If only 2 receivers then the simplest is to use a dual lnb and one wire to each receiver, unless they are DVR's and you want the full features for that receiver. In that case you would need a multiswitch. Sorry I am rambling. Sounds like you got good advice over at DBStalk.
good luck,
Larry

bajadaze - 1-29-2013 at 01:57 PM

Yes I think that you both were on track. Here's what he suggest I do. But can't do them all because I'm limited with what I have and where I am. But, I think this is going to work for me. And thanks for being interested and the help.

Since wiring has now become a gating factor, moving to a single wire system, "might be" an option.
If you're in the continental US [hopefully], you don't need a dish that big.

If you stay with the dish & LNB, then one of these might work:
http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...29-%28swm-8%29

You'd connect the two coax from the LNB, then connect the garage coax to output #1, with the power inserter and receiver there.
Output #2 runs to the house, where a 4-way splitter could feed for receivers.

The same technology is found in this LNB, but it would be hard to mount to your dish: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...sku=8546300073

Starting with a new dish: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...3-swm-b-pws%29

These are for HD, so if you ever want to move to HD, you'll be ready.

Coax lengths and types of splitters can be seen here: http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?...3&postcount=13

Your photos show your coax might need some work. Good RG6 solid copper core is needed on the run with the power inserter, and you can get away with other types on the other runs, but with long runs, RG6 is your best option.