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Is this a realistic travel plan(s) to Mulege?

utahman - 1-28-2013 at 03:21 PM

For the past couple of years my wife and I have been thinking about taking our kids to Baja, specifically Mulege. I have been once, approx 20 years ago, and my wife has never been. We will be driving a Honda Pilot with a small utility trailer. We will take camping supply's along with a couple kayaks and my motorcycle. We would not be camping at Mulege.

The basic plans with some questions are as follows

Plan A
Cross the border at Otay Mesa (1st choice) or Tijuana (2nd choice) as the sun rises. Drive all day until we stop at Bay of LA (approx 10 hrs??) Layover a day at Bay of LA and then hit San Ignacio on our way to Mulege (approx 5hrs???) on Mex 1.

Plan B
Cross the border at Otay Mesa (1st choice) or Tijuana (2nd choice) as the sun rises. Drive until we reach San Quintin. Stay the night and drive to Mulege the next day on Mex 1.

Plan C
Cross the border at Mexicali and drive to Gonzaga Bay. From Gonzaga to Mulege the next day on Mex 1.

I realize we are trying to pack alot of driving time into our little adventure. I also understand that the road from Gonzaga Bay to Mex 1 is dirt and that the conditions of the road continually changes (I actually prefer Plan C because of this. My wife prefers Plan A because of this). We have a limited time frame for this adventure because of school schedules and that is why this is not a "smell the roses" kind of trip.

My first question is: What time does the immigration offices at the border open to buy the tourist cards? I've read somewhere 9am.

Second question: Are these time frames / distances reasonable? We have taken 10 - 12 hour car trips before with little drama, but not 3 days in a row.

Third question: We were planning this trip for the first week in April 2013, yes Easter and the week following, is this crazy to do, or is the first week of June better? I know it will be hotter in June, but is it unbearable? (I hate crowds but we will have our own space around Mulege).

If you have made it this far any recommendations / admonitions would be appreciated. Thanks.

Utahman + family


PS If we chose Plan C we would air down the tires ;D . I have quite a bit of desert driving experience but none when help was possibly 50-100 miles away.

BajaParrothead - 1-28-2013 at 04:26 PM

The April trip might be a bear coming northbound crossing the border. We have waited up to four hours crossing at San Ysidro in past Easter breaks. Now we generally cross Tecate around 7:00 AM, clear immigratin and arrive in Guerrero Negro between 6:00 and 6:30 PM without really pushing it. The June heat is tolerable since the humidity is still reasonable as opposed to later in the summer months. The trek across from the Pacific at GN to the SOC will be warm, but unless you stop at SI, it's only a few hours across and can be accomplished at day break before it heats up. Biggest challenge for us is finding clean restrooms for my wife and two daughters. Bring your own TP and seat covers!! :saint:
Good luck and enjoy!

BajaBlanca - 1-28-2013 at 05:08 PM

youdo NOT want to travel during the spring break ... thousands of people on the road, beaches are PACKED like sardines, surely after 20 years, this would not impress you favorably!

immigration at Tijuana is open 24/7, unless something has changed that I am not aware of. No idea of the times open at other locations.

BajaParrothead = welcome to bajanomad. quite considerate of you to chip in with advice !

I really think you should stop in san ignacio and stay at Jane's (Juanita's) guest house. Her place was the very first inn in the area. She is sweet. The setting is a huge garden with a natural stream running thru it and you will need that coolness in June. It is HOT and it is HUMID. She has a museum that is wonderful for kids to browse in, there is ice cream at the park, there is a huge church with huge stone walls ....

Here is a link to Juanita's place:

http://www.casaleree.com

Have fun !

David K - 1-28-2013 at 05:53 PM

Daylight is longer in June, the weather is better (less chance of wind, warmer water to swim in)...

The border is indeed open 24/7, BUT the person with the money box for 180 day tourist cards is (or maybe) not there 24/7. If your trip is not over 7 days, then get the free card... otherwise, you should cross when there is a teller window or money person open for the paid FMM tourist cards....

Otay south is excellent... cross border, go about one mile south then turn left on Industrial Blvd. (signed for Tecate and Mexicali Cuota/toll except you branch off on the Corredor 2000 free highway to Popotla, a town on the free Ensenada road, before the first Tecate toll gate).

Tijuana is better now with the new border crossing and then jump on the 'Scenic Hwy.' (Toll Road) to Ensenada.

However, my vote is to Cross at Tecate or Mexicali and go south to San Felipe and Gonzaga Bay... much faster, less traffic, no dozens of farm towns with slow speeds, speed bumps, busses... Get that 'Baja Feeling' faster!

Gonzaga to Mulege is a long day drive, but very possible... specially in June with more daytime. 38 unpaved , but graded miles... go slow, have a soda or cerveza at Coco's Corner, enjoy the fact you will have been on some of the Baja 1000 race course (an easy part, mostly paved)!

L.A. Bay is 40 miles off the the road to Mulege, so you will need to back track to keep on pavement... and just going there to sleep is a waste of an 80 mile drive... spend more time there than just an hour of daylight. Camping just north of town in one of many campos.. or motel in town or the Villa Bahia or Raquel and Larry's Motel or Daggett's cabins...??? See http://bahiadelosangeles.org and click on the accommodations link.

Any of your choices will work if you want them to. The real thing to plan on is to expect to NOT stay on a schedule, do things the 'Mexican Way', put away your watch, and just go enjoy the adventure.

[Edited on 1-29-2013 by David K]

utahman - 1-28-2013 at 06:28 PM

If we go to Bay of LA then yes we will stay at least one full day there. San Ignacio would be a stretch your legs stop with some ice cream thrown in for good measure.

Thanks BajaParrotHead for the time estimation going back. We would be heading down on Easter Weekend and heading back 10-12 days later so I don't know if that would still be in the "busy spring break time" or not. I guess that's why I'm asking. :)

BajaBlanca thanks for the reply. I guess from DavidK's response the question I should have asked is when the "money box" opens.

MMc - 1-28-2013 at 06:59 PM

Easter Sunday is when most go home, that weekend will have plenty on the road. The following week won't be so bad.
All you trips are very doable and should be fun. If you just want to get there, go with plan A. The road is best, the signage is the best, and we drive it early morning all the time. Easiest to stay on course.We are usually past well Ensenada for sunrise. I find it faster to Ensenada
Otay is fine but you will question yourself, if you haven't done it before. Bring detailed map with you.

You'll be a bit of a target with kayaks, and bikes on a trailer. Research the ticket info. on this site, there is plenty. You can do what you think is best after reading it.

Plan C, make sure everything tight and right. The services are more remote and will take longer to get back on the road.
Most things have a way of working out one way or another.
It might not be the vacation you planed, but it still could make a great story.

tripledigitken - 1-28-2013 at 07:46 PM

Your mention of a small trailer sent up red flags for me. Make sure to have spare wheel bearings, bolts, leaf springs, spare tires, etc. Tire patch kit and compressor too. If it has wheels less than 15" in diameter you are really at risk on the graded roads.

I would go south via Tijuana and spend your last day or two at Gonzaga Bay, then cross at Mexicali.

I wouldn't go during Easter either as it will be very crowded, particulary at Bahia de Concepcion.

Ken

liknbaja127 - 1-28-2013 at 08:05 PM

I think ken is right, I have towed a lot, large and small trailers, hard to find
parts! bring spares, and it does slow you down, on road times. drive careful. I vote the San Quintin trip. have fun which ever way you go.

NO,,NO,,NO !!!

captkw - 1-28-2013 at 08:31 PM

That is the last,,worst,,crazy,,deathful time of the year to go any Where in mex.......Trust me/us on that !!! change your Timing or change your travel plans...HOLY WEEK, Is not a time to be in mex, unless your hunkerd down with supplys !!! PS..added later,june is really nice in the northern Lat's......

[Edited on 1-29-2013 by captkw]

Marla Daily - 1-28-2013 at 08:36 PM

We recommend crossing at Tecate and driving to El Rosario the first night and staying at Baja Cactus (with advance reservation); then going on to L.A. Bay, San Ignacio, or Mulege—whatever you decide—the next day. We do this route often, pulling a utility trailer. Just be sure to stop at all the stop signs in Tecate and drive slowly through town up and over the hill headed south.

SEE POst above

captkw - 1-28-2013 at 08:46 PM

I'll make it simple,,the week before,, you have Crazy's driving south to get and hold the camp sites.....then you have "Holy week",,,,then,, the massive rush north to return to the great free ....opps,, Ahh job,work scene.....more folks die in Baja in this time frame than the whole year !!K&T...Yikes !!

[Edited on 1-29-2013 by captkw]

woody with a view - 1-28-2013 at 09:02 PM

just go! keep the trailer off the dirt roads or you will beat it into its individual nuts and bolts and leave them strewn along the road.

and get that ice cream and sit under the big trees in the plaza at san ignacio and marvel at the mission and pay respects to all of the Indios who died building it.

rhintransit - 1-28-2013 at 09:09 PM

no to Easter Week or anytime thereabouts. you will not enjoy the driving (crazies), the beaches (packed with crazies), the borders (well, more crazies).
June is lovely, rarely hot hot. wait if you can.

Bajaboy - 1-28-2013 at 09:09 PM

My son and I a few years ago during Spring Break on one of those crowded beaches

absinvestor - 1-28-2013 at 09:32 PM

I agree with kw and rhintransit- definitely no to Easter week. Beaches that normally have a dozen people go to thousands. I don't have experience with driving the roads during that time period but have first hand experience with dealing with the camping crowds. The crowds in general are friendly with many wonderful families but there are just too many people in all desirable camping areas. At least in the Mulege area the crowds start to form about a week before Easter and stay Easter week. The day after Easter the crowds dwindle and within 4 or 5 days all is back to normal. Pick a different time period and you'll have a great time whatever route you choose.

shari - 1-28-2013 at 09:45 PM

Bajaboy is right...the pacside beaches are deserted because all the locals go over to the gulf side beaches to party hardy...GN and many pacside towns are like ghost towns during easter weekend.

SFandH - 1-29-2013 at 08:00 AM

I'd stay away from Mulege/Bahia Concepcion from Palm Sunday until the Sunday after Easter Sunday. Pure drunken chaos.

We stay at Santa Inez in our RV when driving to Mulege. A couple of miles south of Catavina, almost exactly 1/2 way (for us 8 hours) between the border and Mulege.

MMc - 1-29-2013 at 09:02 AM

Uathman, Go! Because you have a place to stay and going the week after the holiday, you'll be fine. Take which ever trip plan you chose, they all are good. Bay of LA will be crowed that Sat. night. I haven't stayed there but there is a small hotel in Santa Rosalillita that might offer a alternative to Bay of LA.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=64373#pid7766...
Here some info on it. It looks fine for a night.

desertcpl - 1-29-2013 at 12:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by tripledigitken
Your mention of a small trailer sent up red flags for me. Make sure to have spare wheel bearings, bolts, leaf springs, spare tires, etc. Tire patch kit and compressor too. If it has wheels less than 15" in diameter you are really at risk on the graded roads.

I would go south via Tijuana and spend your last day or two at Gonzaga Bay, then cross at Mexicali.

I wouldn't go during Easter either as it will be very crowded, particulary at Bahia de Concepcion.

Ken




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DavidE - 1-29-2013 at 01:04 PM

EASTER WEEK
Full hotels, full restaurants, lousy prepared dishes, short portions, crowded roads, drunk drivers, impatient truckers willing to pass blindly, many stores and even tire repair shops closed, city cops looking for a little Easter Cheer for their wallet and girlfriend.

Then It Gets Worse

Fireworks day and night, roaring ATV raising choking clouds of dust. Buzzing water craft threatening to run over you, and leaving sheens of 2-cycle oil in the water.

Seventy ghetto blasters and car stereos in three acres of beach, set to different stations and songs at volume setting 10. The only quiet time is from 7 to 8 AM. Lanterns and lamps blazing all through the night.

Outhouses overflowing, or when you finally get inside, there will be seven more behind you, waiting. People traipsing into the mangroves trailing toilet paper.

Flies, more flies, and clouds of flies.

Local store shelves that resemble jungle plants after the passage of army ants.

Gasolineras with hoses draped over top the pumps. "Sorry! Maybe more mañana!"

"KA-FREAKIN'-BOOM!!!!!!" another high powered skyrocket.

I hide during semana santa. It's no different in Michoacan on the beach. I stock up on everything, make sure I have both earplugs AND earmuffs and then prepare for WW III

June on the other hand is beautiful. But SHADE is at a premium. Usually the humidity is low, but the direct sun can be brutal. Bring some 7-day ice chests, and packing quilts to wrap them in. The mild sea water is gorgeous.

MMc - 1-29-2013 at 02:03 PM

They plan to cross the Saturday of Easter weekend and be there the following night.(Easter Sunday night.) What a difference a day makes.

utahman - 1-29-2013 at 03:21 PM

Thanks for all the recommendations and responses. DavidE you paint quite the ummmm, interesting picture. :) FYI the trailer is a good trailer. We will have spare bearings and tire(s). The critical fasteners are marked and safety wired (I believe in prevention of the problem) since my motorcycle is my “other woman”.

MMc when you mention that the trailer and kayaks make us a “target” do you mean a target of the Police or of the more unsavory character types we might run into.

Bajaboy and shari the Pacific Coast looks wonderful, but we have experienced the cold Pacific before and are looking for warmer waters. Basically my kids have never been snorkeling where the fish have color and the water is warmish. That is why we are aiming for the SoC.

Just to be clear, is the week leading up to Easter the wild and wooly week, the week after Easter Sunday or both?

Again, thanks for all of the replies. Each post has given us more to think about.

Utahman + family

UTAHMAN

captkw - 1-29-2013 at 03:56 PM

Hola,spent a month out there in the mountains around "sandy" had a good time...Any way to answer you last question...It start up to week before...during and after as I posted here earlier....I don't drive during that time/season and DO NOT recommend to anyone to make a trip during said time...Its a known FACT the roads are full of Crazy drivers going south to Claim their spot,,then all week party,,Then they Race like hell to get back to work in the USA....I have been preaching this for over 30 years !! You have been Warned !! Have a great,Fun,Safe Trip....K&T PS...If its your first trip down,you might want to pass on towing a trailer...

[Edited on 1-29-2013 by captkw]

MMc - 1-29-2013 at 04:07 PM

Uathman, Yes, to both, as to being a target. Cops will look at you as a quick money maker. Bad guys will see a opportunity. Deal with the cops as you see fit and lock everything on the trailer, You'll be fine.

There are whole threads as how and best practices with cops.

Mexico didn't adjust school breaks like America did.The crowds are Mexicans mostly. See Shrai's note about GN. She lives in Baja full time knows it better then most of us.
The week BEFORE is the rough week. Saturday, the day your are going into Baja will be the worst. It's all over by Sunday night. The week after Easter Sunday is pretty much like any other week.

Don't over think this. Just go and have a great time with the family.
We are like fans, and Monday quarter backs. It's your trip and it will be one for YOU to remember, not us.

Say What ?? LOL

captkw - 1-29-2013 at 04:19 PM

PS,, Semana santos is NOT easter weekend like in the states !! to start with Semana santos translates to Holy Week....K&T

[Edited on 1-29-2013 by captkw]

[Edited on 1-30-2013 by captkw]

MMc - 1-29-2013 at 04:31 PM

:lol::light::lol::light::lol:


Palm Friday to Easter Sunday is considered Easter Week by most of the Christian world.

[Edited on 1-30-2013 by MMc]

rhintransit - 1-29-2013 at 06:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by utahman

Bajaboy and shari the Pacific Coast looks wonderful, but we have experienced the cold Pacific before and are looking for warmer waters. Basically my kids have never been snorkeling where the fish have color and the water is warmish. That is why we are aiming for the SoC.

Just to be clear, is the week leading up to Easter the wild and wooly week, the week after Easter Sunday or both?


Utahman + family


warmish water...well, depends on your definition, but most of us here wouldn't get in the water in April nor June without appropriate wetsuits.

both weeks are bad on beaches that are fairly accessible to traffic, can't say about out of the way ones, but here in Loreto...packed.

[Edited on 1-30-2013 by rhintransit]

Spain,10 days long !!!

captkw - 1-29-2013 at 07:36 PM


roundtuit - 1-29-2013 at 10:07 PM

Have spent the last 7 years in santispac area(mulege area) and have never had a problem. Yes the Easter week the beaches are full with inlanders, but most leave Sat or Sun Easter Day. The Tuesday after would work fine,cross at TJ is easy and well marked. I leave Chula Vista AM to Guerro Negro 9 hrs and 4hrs next day to Mulege. Treat the ck points with respect as they are only doing their job and they are no problem NO DRUGS NO PROBLEM
Have FUN as that what Baja is about

THis is Nuts !!

captkw - 1-29-2013 at 10:52 PM

I would argue,, but that would make Two Idiots !!! Utah guy,,change your plans and do NOT go in that Time frame...I will not comment on this subject again !! and till you have lived/been in Baja a LONG TIME,, you might think about reading new folks thoughts on a said subject...OUT!!

David K - 1-29-2013 at 11:07 PM

Was there a specific reason to get to Mulege, other than it is the "Hawaii of Baja" as one web site calls it and yopu were there before? What is the max. days you can be in Mexico?
Is camping some of the nights and motels the others what you wish to do?
San Ignacio is very close to the atmosphere of Mulege, without the ocean... a tropical river/ lagoon surrounded by desert... and old Spanish mission... etc.
Check out http://ignaciosprings.com and stay in a luxury yurt... some with wildlife experience! Camping nearby on the river, Desert Inn (? or new name) hotel, motels, Casa Leree Inn for traditional place next to the mission plaza. Ricardo's Rice and Beans motel closer to the highway.

In the summer, it is one long day's drive to the border, but two would be better (El Rosario's Baja Cactus motel with the big family room and upstairs loft is the place)... that is 5-6 hours from the border making your trip most restful and less stressful!:light:

DK for PreZ

captkw - 1-29-2013 at 11:14 PM

Hola,,you so much better with word's,, Than I,,,Thank's

David K - 1-29-2013 at 11:22 PM

Words are just colors we paint with... and sadly some are just plain color blind! LOL:lol:

utahman - 2-1-2013 at 09:47 AM

Thanks for all of the replies. I think we'll postpone our trip until June. This will actually give me more time to finish building my wife's kayak. The water will be warmer and the beaches less a sea of drunken humanity. Thanks again, I will now go back to lurking and will post our June experience when we get back.

Utahman + family