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Whale Conservation- Sea Shepard Labeled Pirates

sancho - 2-26-2013 at 04:13 PM

Their tactics may be a bit rough, P Watson still has my
support, 1 Judge calls them nonviolent, the other calls them Pirates:
http://news.yahoo.com/court-anti-whaling-protesters-pirates-...

mtgoat666 - 2-26-2013 at 04:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
Their tactics may be a bit rough, P Watson still has my
support, 1 Judge calls them nonviolent, the other calls them Pirates:
http://news.yahoo.com/court-anti-whaling-protesters-pirates-...


well, let's call them "honorable and noble pirates on the morally right side of the controversy."

monoloco - 2-26-2013 at 04:29 PM

A thousand whales a year for "research"? Maybe it takes that many to research the nutritional benefits to Japanese consumers.

willardguy - 2-26-2013 at 04:33 PM

are we gonna do this again? okay im in!:lol:


mtgoat666 - 2-26-2013 at 04:45 PM

About that research,... does any credible scientist attach their name to that research?

--------------------- reminds me of USA farm subsidies, subsidizing crops that market forces tell you no one much wants:

Japanese Subsidies Keep Whaling Industry Afloat, Report Says
By HIROKO TABUCHI
NY Times, February 7, 2013

TOKYO — A wildlife conservation group has said in a report that Japan has been propping up its whaling industry with nearly $400 million in tax money in recent years, stepping up subsidies even as the consumption of whale meat has slumped.

The report, compiled by the International Fund for Animal Welfare, in Yarmouth Port, Massachusetts, and released Wednesday, challenges assertions by the Japanese government that whaling is a tradition with wide support among Japanese consumers.

Instead, government figures tallied in the report paint a picture of a struggling industry employing fewer than 1,000 people and dependent on public handouts, which have included money meant for reconstruction after the earthquake and tsunami of March 2011.

Most Japanese consumers have turned away from whale meat...

SiReNiTa - 2-26-2013 at 04:51 PM

Ironic that SS is being called pirates...while the japanese whaling fleet has been ramming their ships (Yes there is video footage of it as of 2 days ago) and trying to capsize them...Just miles off the Australian shores...

Islandbuilder - 2-26-2013 at 09:48 PM

I can't speak to Watson's latest allegations of being rammed by the Japanese fishing boats, but I do know that in the earlier filmed encounters, Watson's ships were clearly the "Give Way" vessels and were required by International Marine Law to keep clear.
Watson's claims that he has never endangered his crew, or had any injuries on his vessels are, quite simply, lies.
He is a pathological liar and publicity seeker, and his motivation is to gain sympathy with the intent of increasing his funding.
That said, he has drawn the world's attention to the abuse of the International Whaling Commissions regulations, and has for two years in a row forced the Japanese to curtail their scheduled whaling season, which I think is a good thing.
I firmly believe that both the UN and International Whaling Commission could end the activities of Japanese and Norweigan whaling fleets by providing a clear definition of "research" and then enforce their regulations with their own resources, thus putting the vigilanty Watson out of business.
At least until he finds another cause to exploit.

larryC - 2-27-2013 at 08:22 AM

While I support their cause, the seamanship displayed by Paul Watson is the worst I have ever seen.

gringorio - 2-27-2013 at 05:57 PM

I fully support the cause of Sea Shepherd. Paul Waston has backbone no politician will ever have. His tactics and use of volunteers is clearly chaotic, but it's been getting the job done for many years and not just for whales. The real pirates, in this case, are the Japanese whalers and the IWC. ;)

bajagrouper - 2-27-2013 at 06:51 PM

Seems to me if there was no demand for whale meat/blubber there would be no Japanese whalers..... Honey, I'm home,what's on the Hibachi?

David K - 2-27-2013 at 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by bajagrouper
Seems to me if there was no demand for whale meat/blubber there would be no Japanese whalers..... Honey, I'm home,what's on the Hibachi?


Spot on! It must taste good? Remove the desire for the product and away goes the industry to supply it.

Of course, they could just outlaw whale for food in Japan and Norway, or where ever there is a market for it... if the whales are endangered, as they did with turtles. It's up to the people of those places to decide, as I think you can't buy whale meat here, right?

mtgoat666 - 2-27-2013 at 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by David K
I think you can't buy whale meat here, right?


It's in the Costco freezers right next to the boneless bald eagle breasts

[Edited on 2-28-2013 by mtgoat666]

French Lessons

MrBillM - 2-27-2013 at 09:50 PM

The Frogs handled this kind of problem well years back in the Rainbow Warrior encounter.

The Nips should take note.

Islandbuilder - 2-27-2013 at 10:01 PM

I don't know about Norway, but one market for the whale meat in Japan is in school lunches. The theory is that once they get the kids used to the taste, their future market is guarenteed.

The answer has to lie in legitimate governments taking responsible action. Bring enough political presure and they will yield.
Tie the end of whaling to trade agreements and you'll get results.
Make it a war and they will just get bigger guns.

I was particuarly (not) impressed when Watson's crew posted stories about how scared they were during the earthquake and tidal wave, and how they were so lucky to get seats on the first planes out of the country. I thought that they bailed on a perfect opportunity to win the battle for the hearts and minds of the Japanese public by setting aside their banners and sticnk bombs and pitch in to help the homeless and suffering.

durrelllrobert - 2-28-2013 at 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by David K
I think you can't buy whale meat here, right?


It's in the Costco freezers right next to the boneless bald eagle breasts

[Edited on 2-28-2013 by mtgoat666]


Did yoy know that bald eagles and spotted ows taste the same? I doubt if that's the same for Australian and Baja wales. :tumble:

SiReNiTa - 2-28-2013 at 12:38 PM

The demand for whale meat has actually diminished, making whaling a non profitable action...

http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2013/02/japans-sci...


As far as Paul Watson I support the cause without a doubt, as I would support any environmental cause that protects animals who can not speak for themselves.

Islandbuilder - 2-28-2013 at 02:15 PM

I support the cause, but not the means. We need to redirect the energy and resources currently channeled toward SS, and apply them to getting the UN and IWC to tighten their laws prohibiting commercial whaling, and to take direct responsibility for enforcing laws currently on the books.

Perhaps Watson's Merry Pranksters could get hired by the UN to document violations. Of course, that requires responsible behavior, and that isn't something Watson does very well.

Martyman - 2-28-2013 at 05:05 PM

Boycott Toyota!

Pescador - 2-28-2013 at 05:17 PM

When I was growing up it was still possible to have a conversation with someone who had a different political opinion or a different way of looking at the world. We maintained a certain respect for each other even though our perceptions of the world were miles apart. Sadly, that has gone downhill and now it is ok for someone to ram boats and act like an idiot because he is doing what some consider to be a right thing. I would suggest that the only difference between Paul's actions and a street mob or serial killer is the fact that he has some backers who are willing to turn the other eye and encourage him in his non-social behavior because they somehow believe in the cause.

I certainly do not remember Jacque Cousteau using the same tactics and bullying but he was a much more effective agent for change.

So, somewhere along the line the bullying became acceptable for those who espoused a certain idea or philosophy. But this is a really one sided affair for if a conservative were to start that kind of bullying , he would be crucified before the sun went down.

motoged - 2-28-2013 at 05:26 PM

Pescador,
Your logic suggests that the USA should have had a conversation with Bin Laden rather than blowing a hole in his head (something I don't have a particular problem with, by the way).

Extra-ordinary circumstances require extra-ordinary means at times.

Watson is at war with whalers....some folks just need to wrap their minds around that....

David K - 2-28-2013 at 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador
When I was growing up it was still possible to have a conversation with someone who had a different political opinion or a different way of looking at the world. We maintained a certain respect for each other even though our perceptions of the world were miles apart. Sadly, that has gone downhill and now it is ok for someone to ram boats and act like an idiot because he is doing what some consider to be a right thing. I would suggest that the only difference between Paul's actions and a street mob or serial killer is the fact that he has some backers who are willing to turn the other eye and encourage him in his non-social behavior because they somehow believe in the cause.

I certainly do not remember Jacque Cousteau using the same tactics and bullying but he was a much more effective agent for change.

So, somewhere along the line the bullying became acceptable for those who espoused a certain idea or philosophy. But this is a really one sided affair for if a conservative were to start that kind of bullying , he would be crucified before the sun went down.


Well said Pescador... Long live the memory of Jacque! As a kid I remember a motion picture my parents took me to see (mid or early 1960's) called something like "World without Sun" (?) staring the inventor of SCUBA, himself! Motivating to learn by seeing what is there!

Hook - 2-28-2013 at 05:28 PM

Boycott Modelo! Save the ballenas!!!

Here is a beached ballena.


Armchair quarterbacks?

djh - 2-28-2013 at 06:03 PM

Watson and SS is out there ACTING upon their convictions (and enforcing international law that no one else will enforce) rather than sitting on his butt blogging about what "someone (else) ought to do".

Some here are (justifiably) touched by freeing an ensnared whale from a net, etc., so you / they believe whales deserve to live and deserve our help....

So does Watson, and his means are necessarily EQUAL to the evil, high-tech, illegal slaughter by the Japanese whalers.

Research...? My ass!

"Respect?" "Non-social behavior?" "Bullying?" "Means don't justify the end?"

Surely you are referring to the Japanese corporate whalers and their Illegal heartless slaughter of whales for $$$$.

Arm chair quarterbacking and blahblah blogging doesn't change ANYthing. Watson has a deep conviction and WALKS his talk.

As motoged said... Watson is at war with whalers - his war is as nice as the bloody slaughter of whales,

although

the biggest difference is that all of the murder, death, killing is being done by the Japanese whalers.

I have a Japanese amigo living back in Japan again and she sends $ to Watson and speaks out against Japan's tacit condoning of the continuing slaughter.

Conscience and ACTION.

Islandbuilder - 2-28-2013 at 06:09 PM

I respectfully disagree.

I see him as an opportunistic narcisist who is making good money and having a lot of fun on other people's dime.

He is coincidently thwarting the Japanese in their industrial whaling.

The real vulnerable niche in the oceans, the one that impacts us all, is at the bottom of the food chain, not the top.

But I can't see Watson making a dime off of a show called "Krill Wars"

David K - 2-28-2013 at 06:22 PM

Don't get me wrong... I do watch Whale Wars (when it was on TV)... and I don't agree with killing whales or dolphins... but Watson is a buffoon and is suckered a bunch of rich TV and movie stars out of their money for little or no progress. Didn't that Australian guy have a lot to say after Watson instructed him to 'let' the Japanese ship crush his customized interceptor boat for the publicity? If that money spent by Bob Barker and others went to a campaign of educational films (specially in Japan) about whales and their beauty/ intelligence, etc. I think it would actually eliminate the desire for whale meat/ oil, etc. "research" lol! Watson and the hippies have not stopped the desire to get more whales... Time to change strategies and stop getting paid to fail.

[Edited on 3-1-2013 by David K]

willardguy - 2-28-2013 at 06:27 PM

I think we all would be safer if this nutbag were behind bars!

http://depletedcranium.com/the-truth-about-paul-watson/

David K - 2-28-2013 at 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by willardguy
I think we all would be safer if this nutbag were behind bars!

http://depletedcranium.com/the-truth-about-paul-watson/


Compelling video... with so many being freaked out by him, I wonder if his credibility for getting back on TV is shot?


mtgoat666 - 2-28-2013 at 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by willardguy
I think we all would be safer if this nutbag were behind bars!


His actions are far better than Japanese murdering whales.

His actions are noble.

aguachico - 2-28-2013 at 08:45 PM

He's just lucky he's conducting his stunts against the Japanese. Other countries would not be so gracious.

The Chinese eat dogs and cats. Hop a plane into China a see where that "CAUSE" will get ya...

Islandbuilder - 2-28-2013 at 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
I think we all would be safer if this nutbag were behind bars!


His actions are far better than Japanese murdering whales.

His actions are noble.


One of us has an incorrect definition of "noble".

Pescador - 3-1-2013 at 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Islandbuilder
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by willardguy
I think we all would be safer if this nutbag were behind bars!


His actions are far better than Japanese murdering whales.

His actions are noble.


One of us has an incorrect definition of "noble".


Amen, my point was that noble should apply to both sides of the spectrum. If this nutbag was "noble" he would find a "noble" way to go about his business. Instead, he is going about his bullying by hiding behind the Apron of the liberal do-gooders who think any misdeed can somehow be justified by the philosophical position.

Gahndi was respected and feared by both sides of the political spectrum, but always chose to take the high road. This loser feels any road is justified.

Skipjack Joe - 3-1-2013 at 08:57 AM

Those who criticize the man should also offer an alternate solution that accomplishes the same. Otherwise the criticism is not useful.

Cousteau and Gandhi? Why not offer up Jesus Christ.

British Colonialism was a really ugly affair. Yet it was done in a very cultured, civilized manner.

The bottom line is not how you do it but what you do. The rest is window dressing in my opinion.

fishbuck - 3-1-2013 at 09:23 AM

I was a " Save the whales" guy back in highschool. Even did my big english term paper on it and went off Cape Cod for research.
Some may question his tactics. Some may not. But I admire the fact that he and his crew are willing to put it all on the line for their cause.
The simple fact is that we are all talking about it and that right there is progress toward getting this issue resolved one way or the other.
You can probably guess what side of this I am on.
Hell, I say go after the longline boats and purse sieners too!
Sink em all and let God sort it out!

motoged - 3-1-2013 at 11:09 AM

An interesting conversation...:light:

However, there is no "truth" to the issue....but a lot of polarized opinions.

Such are beliefs :saint:

I would like to believe that not all "do-gooders" are liberal, and that some conservative thinkers might also want to "conserve" such things as resources, humane values, and an effort to live balanced lives for ourselves and others.

The limited vision of rendering such topics to "left/right" or "liberal/conservative" thinking is only a polarizing dynamic that obscures options.

If this was a gun lobby conversation, I suppose PW could be seen as "having the right" (an invented concept at best) to uphold his convictions.

Attacking PW as a person is a different conversation than that of protecting whales. There are a lot of corporate executives that could readily be identified as being psychopathic, but that diagnosis sidetracks the discussion of corporate responsibility and ethics/morality.

Very few hunters, for example, need to hunt for sustenance and survival in our western world....but they do it as a "sport". Giving the deer, etc guns to defend themselves to make the "sport" a balanced activity is certainly not a realistic solution to that dilemma....so, at times, someone has to step in and try to protect those less capable of defending themselves. Is this restricted to a "liberal" way of thinking?

If so, may the gods help us.

Direct action is not always pretty....but neither is life.

Who is your keeper?

Pescador - 3-1-2013 at 01:04 PM

No, Motoged, I am not suggesting that this is a left-right conversation, but I do feel pretty strong about what I refer to as "situational ethics", where one uses a current philosphy or way of thinking to justify a particuar action. PETA is perhaps the best example of that type of thinking where they are so convinced in their way of thinking that they feel justified throwing red paint on expensive fur jackets. Unless you subscribe to the Saul Alinsky methods of social change, this is unjustified action.

I happen to believe strongly in the preservation of whales but I can not bring myself to condone thuggery, bullying, and outright anti-social behavior to accomplish those goals anymore than I think it is righteous to rob a bank to feed your family. Both are lofty goals, but the behavior in both cases stinks.

Because of wacko groups like PETA, Earth First, Paul Watson, Occupy Wall Street, etc., etc., it has almost become cool to be a rebel, throw civilized rules to the wind, and go on one's little escapade of terror because you believe strongly in something. The logical conclusion of that thought process is, "it's OK to be a kook, act like a kook, destroy things like a kook, as long as you believe in the right things but who knows who defines the "right things".

mtgoat666 - 3-1-2013 at 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador
Because of wacko groups like PETA, Earth First, Paul Watson, Occupy Wall Street, etc., etc., it has almost become cool to be a rebel, throw civilized rules to the wind,


it's been "cool" for the entire history of man. some people see a need to shake things up to make a change, and some people are accepting of wrongs and talk-talk that goes no where.

people in power, and those uncomfortable with change, try to maintain power or stability by squashing voices and actions of dissent.

[Edited on 3-1-2013 by mtgoat666]

willardguy - 3-1-2013 at 03:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
Quote:
Originally posted by Pescador
Because of wacko groups like PETA, Earth First, Paul Watson, Occupy Wall Street, etc., etc., it has almost become cool to be a rebel, throw civilized rules to the wind,


it's been "cool" for the entire history of man. some people see a need to shake things up to make a change, and some people are accepting of wrongs and talk-talk that goes no where.

people in power, and those uncomfortable with change, try to maintain power or stability by squashing voices and actions of dissent.

[Edited on 3-1-2013 by mtgoat666]
I think goat might be on to something! nope, make that ON something :lol:


fishbuck - 3-1-2013 at 03:36 PM

So who are really the kooks here? When the Japanese flagrantly abuse the "research" thing to make a profit by unnecessarily slaughtering whales then what are the "rules" here. They are flat out lying.
They justify it because it's part of their "culture" Complete Bull manure!
They justify overfishing and stealing fish from other countries' waters and justify it because it's part of their "culture". Complete Horse manure!
Someone has to stand up and say ENOUGH!
These whales and these fish belong to the WORLD. Not to Japan. And we have a right to say "Don't kill my whales" or "Don't over fish the Bluefin" etc.
The world's history is full of examples were greedy people plundered and wiped out species.
I'll bet you didn't know that there is a species of Atlantic Grey Whales. You want to know why you don't know. Because they are extinct from whaling.
Everyone laments the overfishing of the oceans. But who has the stones to stand up and do something about it?
I just moved to Washington state recently. I came up here for The Boeing Company. I didn't come up here to fish. But I started to get a little interested in the Salmon. But I soon realized that fishing for them is a bit futile. You want to know why. Because there aren't any left to speak of. A few here and there.
But at one time the place was literally clogged with them. They were nearly wiped out by pure greed and it may be too late to bring them back.
So yes. Paul and his crew are a bunch of radical pirates. But that may be the only thing on this planet that is going to work.
Anybody know the address where I can send some money to his defense fund?

[Edited on 3-2-2013 by fishbuck]

Islandbuilder - 3-1-2013 at 05:21 PM

I agree with Goat and fishbuck, at least as far as the states of both our culture and fish in Puget Sound.

I think that as things stand, anyone taking a reasoned and balanced approach to effecting change is lost in the shouts of radicals voices. An extreme position is going to get the media, and political attention. Anyone else is going to be ignored.

As goat said, we have aways had extreme voices shouting from one side or the other. The difference now is that we no longer have a limited media who tempers these extreme voices. They have direct access to the public via the internet. And we have virtually unlimited choices for our news sources, so we can narrow our source to match each of our prejudices.

I don't think that helps us to find common ground, instead we're just more confirmed in our radicalism.

Watson's techniques have worked, and made him a pretty wealthy guy in the process. That doesn't mean that I have to celebrate his approach.

Someone above asked why no one has made any alternate suggestions on how to end the whale harvest.

My alternative suggestions are:
A.) Petition the US government and ask them to consider bringing political and economic presure against Japan to stop commercial whaling.
B.) Organize boycotts of Japanese goods as a protest.
C.) Write to the American UN Ambasador and ask that the UN be called on to tighten the definitions of "Scientific Research", thus closing the loophole that Japan is using to justify their activites.

I admit that taking a longer road is less satisfying, but it will result in longer lasting change than will a more radical approach.

As Cab Calloway sang earlier ...............

MrBillM - 3-1-2013 at 06:47 PM

...............Today.

On Sirius, anyway.

"A Chicken ain't nothing but a Bird".

And, a Whale ain't nothing but a Fish.

Well, OK, they're not fish.

"A Whale ain't nothing but a Dish" ?

As long as they are not endangered.............

Bon Appetit.

Pescador - 3-2-2013 at 05:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Those who criticize the man should also offer an alternate solution that accomplishes the same. Otherwise the criticism is not useful.

Cousteau and Gandhi? Why not offer up Jesus Christ.

British Colonialism was a really ugly affair. Yet it was done in a very cultured, civilized manner.

The bottom line is not how you do it but what you do. The rest is window dressing in my opinion.


Well, my friend, that is so easy. Not much headway has really taken place except that our friend has filled his pockets with lots of money cause his supporters love the whales. I love the whales but think this birdbrain (yes, I have sat down and talked to him extensively at the Telluride Mountain Film Festival). So this is an easy solution.

When the Farming council wanted to boost chicken egg consumption, they hired a great propagandist who worked very closely with the Dept of Ag. and several other government agencies and they flooded the radio, television, and magazines with the slogan, Breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Following this propaganda, the sale chicken eggs went through the roof and they sold 100 times more than they had ever sold before which also drove the price up.

I am proposing, that instead of acting like some kind of Modern Robin Hood, that if someone really wanted to change the consumption of whale meat, that would easily be accomplished by a little propaganda and would certainly be more effective than some idiot running around with a very expensive boat tilting at windmills like some modern day Don Quijote. In fact, come to think of it, I think Don Quijote may have had more intelligence than our friend Dave.:barf::barf:

Just give a little thought to what was accomplished, mostly by accident, to the whole hunting scene in North America with the production of the movie Bambi.

Now if you think that it is somehow romantic that this bozo runs around playing Pirate of the oceans and that he truly cares more about Whales than his own ego and pocketbook, then go ahead and donate as much as you can afford to spend. I, on the other hand, would love to see some type of well thought out public relations campaign that really might bring about some type of worthwhile change.

[Edited on 3-3-2013 by Pescador]

Creative Marketing ?

MrBillM - 3-2-2013 at 06:20 PM

?

"Whale ! It's the Other White Fish" ?

"Tastes just like Chicken" ?

"Blubber-Burgers are Better" ?

"Shamu Steaks are Superb" ?

"Got Whale" ?

"What's for Lunch ? Ask Ahab".

comitan - 3-2-2013 at 06:22 PM

Pescador

Tell it like it is, I like that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paulina - 3-2-2013 at 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Pescador




...I am proposing, that instead of acting like some kind of Modern Robin Hood, that if someone really wanted to change the consumption of whale meat, that would easily be accomplished by a little propaganda...Just give a little thought to what was accomplished, mostly by accident, to the whole hunting scene in North America with the production of the movie Bambi.
... I, on the other hand, would love to see some type of well thought out public relations campaign that really might bring about some type of worthwhile change.

[Edited on 3-3-2013 by Pescador]


If Bambi had some impact, then maybe we could start by flooding the Japanese internet with Willy...Who didn't shed a tear for that poor guy?

http://youtu.be/rgjnfJLMWI0

P>*)))>{

Cisco - 3-2-2013 at 07:26 PM

There are many others in addition to the whales that need our concern.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21629176

CITES meeting to deal with species 'extinction crisis'

and it truly is a crisis.


"Money is an anesthetic for conscience."

gringorio - 3-2-2013 at 07:35 PM

Watson is simply going where Greenpeace dared not go. And he does what he does (allows for property damage) because all other efforts are currently failing, or at least not good enough. At this point, with special interests involved, educational films will not do the trick. Watson is not a 'buffoon' but rather highly intelligent. Don't let the chaos of his ships as seen in whale wars fool you. If you look at the over all goal of saving whales (in this case) he has brought more attention and saved more individual whales than Greenpeace and the Sierra Club combined. Like others have mentioned, if the IWC had any balls Japan and Iceland would be nursing a black eye about now.

We need more Paul Watson's in this world... :bounce::o

DianaT - 3-2-2013 at 11:35 PM

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Originally posted by gringorio
Watson is simply going where Greenpeace dared not go. And he does what he does (allows for property damage) because all other efforts are currently failing, or at least not good enough. At this point, with special interests involved, educational films will not do the trick. Watson is not a 'buffoon' but rather highly intelligent. Don't let the chaos of his ships as seen in whale wars fool you. If you look at the over all goal of saving whales (in this case) he has brought more attention and saved more individual whales than Greenpeace and the Sierra Club combined. Like others have mentioned, if the IWC had any balls Japan and Iceland would be nursing a black eye about now.

We need more Paul Watson's in this world... :bounce::o


:yes::yes:

fishbuck - 3-3-2013 at 08:02 AM

Ok. I have a marking campaign slogan.

"SAVE THE WHALES"... oh wait... I think it's been used already.:cool:

fishbuck - 3-3-2013 at 09:26 AM

Ok I've got the new marketing slogan:

" SAVE THE WHALES... no not those whales dummy... the other whales that you didn't know were being slaughtered by Japan in Antarctica under the guise of Research but are in reality being slaughtered by a large commericial whaling fleet and they would have continued to get away with it except for an organization called Sea Shepards that has a tv show to spotlight the sneaky goings on of the Japanese way down there in Antarctica where no one really pays any attention cause it's really cold and there is no reason to go there except to illegally slaughter whales with hunter killer ships and a factory ship so the glutonous Japanese can feast on whale meat at their stuck up overpriced sushi bars etc... you know it's part of the culture"

So yeah it's a little wordy but I suppose that is why I have never been offered a job on Madison Ave but who knows if it catches on this might be a new carreer for me...:cool:



[Edited on 3-3-2013 by fishbuck]