BajaNomad - Working in Baja

Working in Baja

Steve&Debby - 3-4-2013 at 10:00 PM

What do I need to do to legally work in Baja? I have heard I need to form a Mexican corporation and have a FM3 Or FM2.

bajajudy - 3-5-2013 at 07:36 AM

Where would you be living?
I have a great guy who could help you.
You do not have to form a corporation but you do have to have permission to work. It is rather complicated.
There are no more FM2 or FM3

CortezBlue - 3-5-2013 at 07:48 AM

Judy is correct and I know that if you are a associated with IT, I think it is pretty easy to get permission and get a workers permit, what ever they will be called?

DENNIS - 3-5-2013 at 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by Steve&ebby
What do I need to do to legally work in Baja? I have heard I need to form a Mexican corporation and have a FM3 Or FM2.

Are you wanting to work for yourself, or for someone else?

EnsenadaDr - 3-5-2013 at 10:39 AM

I was employed as a clinic physician for a year in Baja in 2011-2012. I needed an FM3 and a CURP. There are no more FM2's, it is now just considered residente permanente. In order for me to get my titulo medico and cedula profesional, or medical license number, I had to reapply for an FM3, then at a later date you can apply for permanent residency if you like. But you definitely need a CURP and an FM3, if you work for another agency, as I did with the Secretaria de Salud in Baja California Norte or Sur.

Steve&Debby - 3-5-2013 at 09:30 PM

OK ya got me ,what is a CURP?????????? I do water well drilling and pumps. I would be working with another company that is set up in Baja .The other company asked me if I could work on some pumps for them. I am not sure if I would be working with the other company or if they would put me in touch with the customer and I would work directly with the customer.Alot to check on. Don't want to end up in a Mexican jail

David K - 3-6-2013 at 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by Steve&ebby
OK ya got me ,what is a CURP?????????? I do water well drilling and pumps. I would be working with another company that is set up in Baja .The other company asked me if I could work on some pumps for them. I am not sure if I would be working with the other company or if they would put me in touch with the customer and I would work directly with the customer.Alot to check on. Don't want to end up in a Mexican jail

I too would appreciate the translation or definition of CURP.

A non-Mexican is forbidden to perform any work in Mexico (even unpaid volunteer work) without the FM-3 visa with the work permit attached. The FM-3 is for living in Mexico while you are working as the tourist card is for people on a vacation... and work isn't considered a vacation activity.

Mexico greatly protects its people from workforce competition. You or your employer in Mexico must prove to the government that what you will be doing cannot be provided by the local workforce.

Now, in reality... I am sure there are many gringos doing various activities beyond pleasure trips or tourism. Gotta Peso in Cataviña comes to mind, lol.

This was what I found out about 8 years ago, when I was seeing about how to do some irrigation technical services, in Baja. So, maybe things have changed?

Islandbuilder - 3-6-2013 at 12:09 AM

Wow, even volunteer work?

David K - 3-6-2013 at 12:14 AM

Yup... that was the case a few years ago... and obviously, not enforced considering all the volunteering done for orphanages and medical assistance (unless they have a permit). The tourist card (before recent changes) was strictly for tourists on a vacation, not part time residents who have a rental or home part of the year in Mexico. That language was recently removed from the new FMM, however. 'Nobody' obeyed the tourism rule and bought homes, leased land, etc. with nothing more than the FM-T tourist card... when an FM-3 is called for. Like I said, it has been altered to be okay now to do that with an FMM, as I recall.

gnukid - 3-6-2013 at 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Yup... that was the case a few years ago... and obviously, not enforced considering all the volunteering done for orphanages and medical assistance (unless they have a permit). The tourist card (before recent changes) was strictly for tourists on a vacation, not part time residents who have a rental or home part of the year in Mexico. That language was recently removed from the new FMM, however. 'Nobody' obeyed the tourism rule and bought homes, leased land, etc. with nothing more than the FM-T tourist card... when an FM-3 is called for. Like I said, it has been altered to be okay now to do that with an FMM, as I recall.

David please do not comment where you have no experience. Your comments are misleading.

Bob and Susan - 3-6-2013 at 05:31 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_ID_Number_(CURP)_(Mexico)

CURP codes consist of three elements:
1.Given name(s);
2.First surname: the father's first surname; and
3.Second surname: the mother's first surname.

The CURP code is composed of 18 characters that are assigned as follows:

The first surname's initial and first inside vowel;
The second surname's initial (or the letter "X" if, like some foreign nationals, the person has no second surname);
The first given name's initial;
Date of birth (2 digits for year, 2 digits for month, and 2 digits for day);
A one-letter gender indicator (H for male (hombre in Spanish) or M for female (mujer in Spanish));
A two-letter code for the state where the person was born; for persons born abroad, the code NE (nacido en el extranjero) is used;
The first surname's second inside consonant;
The second surname's second inside consonant;
The first given name's second inside consonant; and
Two characters ranging from 1-9 for people born before 2000 or from A-Z for people born since 2000; these characters are generated by the National Population Registry to prevent identical entries.

EnsenadaDr - 3-6-2013 at 05:46 AM

CURP is somewhat like our Social Security number.

Check your U2U

djh - 3-6-2013 at 06:51 AM

Another option for you - check your U2U.

djh

David K - 3-6-2013 at 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by gnukid

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David please do not comment where you have no experience. Your comments are misleading.

Did I stutter? This was the case just a few years ago (as I said). If I mislead... then have the courtesy to provide the correct information... otherwise how does your reply help anyone?

DavidE - 3-6-2013 at 11:43 AM

I'll never forget the "interpretation" given by "Sergio" then head of INM in San Lucas.

"With a tourist card, it is forbidden to the card holder any activity not associated with being a tourist"

(verbatim)

Islandbuilder - 3-6-2013 at 11:52 AM

Gnu, Is it possible to post updated information without bullying anyone?

On other threads you have done a great job posting links and other pertinent information, and it is much appreciated.

I would love to know what you have about the original visa question, particularly as it relates to doing volunteer work and home ownership.

Thanks

shari - 3-6-2013 at 12:40 PM

you can contact Alonso Lopez who helps gringos through all the immigration processes and fidecomiso, forming corporations etc...he will answer your questions for you and has all the updated info you need, his email is alonsobaja@prodigy.net.mx and he speaks english...tell him shari sent ya!

Islandbuilder - 3-6-2013 at 05:57 PM

Thank you Shari!

bajagrouper - 3-6-2013 at 08:21 PM

The company who wants to hire you should get all permits and visas done for you if they are for real........

DENNIS - 3-6-2013 at 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Islandbuilder
Gnu, Is it possible to post updated information without bullying anyone?

Yeah, Paul....quit being so grouchy. :saint: