BajaNomad - First timers - Bahia De Concepcion / Mulege

First timers - Bahia De Concepcion / Mulege

Nikson - 5-13-2013 at 04:48 PM

Destination of our choice is the Concepcion Bay.

Food/Water: availability at the markets/stores?
Fuel (Petrol): Mulege?
Temperatures: December to cold?
Mid-point stop: El Rosario - refill gas, spend the first night, or just push forward all the way to Mulege (since I dont see that being too big of a problem w/crossing border early AM).
Cellphone/4G service - local Mexican provider available?
Campfires - purchase local firewood if need be/gather around in the hills?
Propane refills - same as in US, just come by a gas station that has propane (same type hookup setup)?

Hopefully I'm not to confusing with my questions.

It said to ask away all them questions.....

Our current plan (as per my research on forums):

Bahia de Concepcion (camp at all/most of the beach sites)
2 families (4 adults & 5 kids (1yr - 10yrs age), no pets
I will be pulling a tent trailer, and my buddy using his "built" work Sprinter van (as an RV).
2 weeks length of stay (in Baja)

Very self sustaining, as in trailer built to work well for dry camping, we do summer/winter/snow camps in Cascades.

We can leave as early as October and as late as mid-December.

Would like to get into the best weather, dont want the high heat of summer or cold nights of the winter seasons, have kids enjoy the warm "cool" water, kayak in the bay, hopefully snorkel and mountain bike.

elgatoloco - 5-13-2013 at 05:05 PM

October is better. Fuel in lots of places, including Mulege. With kids and pulling a trailer I would not try to get there in one day, shoot for Cataviña the first night and camp at Santa Ines then launch early the next day and see how far you get.

BajaBlanca - 5-13-2013 at 05:25 PM

I agree that it is really not viable to trek it all in one day

San Quintin is a nice point to stop at and i think we would all recommend a hotel called JARDINES, with a great restaurant next to it, which is closed on Mondays

Definitely fill up on gas in El Rosario. Next station is FAR.

Food and any supplies are readily available in Mulege. Not too sure about the temps....someone else will have to pipe in.

Welcome to the wonderful (and sometimes controversial) land of Baja Nomads!

Have a safe trip....don't cross the border too early. At sunrise you will be fine.

Frank - 5-13-2013 at 05:50 PM

Hey Nikson! Welcome to BN, see the answers are flowing already. (Frank from Expedition Portal) The one thing we all have in common on this board is the love of Baja and it's people.

1bobo - 5-13-2013 at 06:01 PM

Last winter was exceptionally cold here. I didn't wear my shorts between November and February. There are vendors who come by the beaches with firewood, water, veggies, etc. for sale, so many people don't need to come into town.

I'm told ATT cell works here in Mulege, not Verizon, but a cheap phone can be had at the Telcel store. No cell service down along the beaches. Free WiFi at some of the businesses here in town.

Travel time from the border varies depending upon time of year (hours of daylight) and construction- you don't want to travel at night. Camalu through San Quintin can be very slow if you hit the valley during commute hours (early morning or late afternoon). El Rosario is a good stop, good motels there, maybe RV camp? Others may know. Fidel's El Pabellon RV camp is on the beach just south of Santa Maria and Los Pinos, cheap, secure, showers.

It's a long haul from El Rosario to Mulege. It can be done, but it'll be (nearly) dark by the time you arrive, and the beaches are another 1/2 hour south. A better plan may be an overnight in San Ignacio.

Propane tanks can be filled at the water store under the bridge in Mulege.

I would recommend mid October to Mid November for weather.

David K - 5-13-2013 at 06:02 PM

Good Advice... October best month after May, weather-wise.

South of the twin towns of San Quintin and Lazaro Card##as, between Km. 1 and Km. 2, off to the right a ways, and a bit south on a parallel dirt street is an excellent RV Park (Los Olivos) and just beyond a good restaurant/ motel (Baja Jardines/ Gardens)

El Rosario, 25 more miles south, is an important top off the tanks petrol station (on the left as you enter town 'Pemex') The motel next door is excellent, but only if you get one of the many new rooms, a small RV park is behind the Sinahi Motel and restaurant, a mile down the road, in town... and at the far end of town (2 miles from Pemex gas station) is the Turista Motel, or Baja's Best Bed & Breakfast and restaurant (across the highway from Turista).

Rancho Santa Ynez is 77 miles from El Rosario, a mile south of Cataviña, for a camping area 3/4 mile off the highway... meals may be available there.

At Mulege there is a Pemex station to the south of town as you drive away from the river. At Bahia Concepcion, there are many places, but Playa El Requeson and Playa La Perla (just south) have no highway noise like many of the other places get... Just north of El Requeson is Playa Buenaventura which is the site of a run down motel, but next door is an excellent bar and food (cheeseburgers and XX Beer, yum)!

If you need photos, I have many!

[Edited on 5-14-2013 by David K]

DocRey - 5-13-2013 at 10:09 PM

Great info. I'm taking notes.

bent-rim - 5-14-2013 at 02:05 AM

There's alot of cattle on the road from Santa Rosellia (sp?) to Mulege at night.

mulegemichael - 5-14-2013 at 06:37 AM

there's lots of cattle, goats, burros, etc on the road during the day also...keep your eyes open and yer hands on the wheel.

durrelllrobert - 5-14-2013 at 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I agree that it is really not viable to trek it all in one day

Did Loreto to Punta Banda in 10.5 hours towing a 23 ft boat. Deduct 1.5 hours for Loreto to Mulege = 9 hrs, then add 2 hrs for Punta Banda to San Ysidro = 11 hours. Not to long for me and worse part was the uphill grade out of El Rosario.

SFandH - 5-14-2013 at 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I agree that it is really not viable to trek it all in one day

Way too fast, why take the risk involved in high speed driving? What's your top speed?

Mulege to the border takes me 15-16 hours driving time which I break into two days, spending a night at Santa Inez just south of Catavina, just about half way. I've been driving it for years.

I was at Santa Inez two nights ago. Warm night, absolutely beautiful.

POINT BY POINT answers

DavidE - 5-14-2013 at 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Nikson
Destination of our choice is the Concepcion Bay.

Food/Water: availability at the markets/stores?
Shop in Mulege. Little food available at the bay. Service utility water is Scarce. I use those collapsible 5 gallon camping jugs. Fill them at the town triangle park in Mulege, free.

Fuel (Petrol): Mulege?
5 miles south of Mulege, towards concepcion. Regular, premium and diesel.

Temperatures: December to cold?
Year by year it can vary. But I would say a normal December day will be in the low 70's, and nights in the 50's, sometimes the 40's. It's the WIND that can make life less than paradise.

Mid-point stop: El Rosario - refill gas, spend the first night, or just push forward all the way to Mulege (since I dont see that being too big of a problem w/crossing border early AM).
Very short daylight hours in December. Figure 40 mph average. 620 miles. It don't fit. El Rosario would make a good stop. You need to stop and get your tourist permits right at the border. This eats time as does passing through Ensenada and San Quintín. Several police checkpoints.

Cellphone/4G service - local Mexican provider available?
No personal info

Campfires - purchase local firewood if need be/gather around in the hills?
Mesquite can be purchased in Mulege. Ask for leňa. LAY-nyah.

Propane refills - same as in US, just come by a gas station that has propane (same type hookup setup)?
NO! Five miles BEFORE Santa Rosalia is a propane plant out in the middle of nowhere on your left. No one else can fill fixed tanks, and getting portable tanks filled in Mulege at Casa Yee can be a hassle.

Hopefully I'm not to confusing with my questions.
Mexico is confusing. join the crowd.

It said to ask away all them questions.....

Our current plan (as per my research on forums):

Bahia de Concepcion (camp at all/most of the beach sites)
2 families (4 adults & 5 kids (1yr - 10yrs age), no pets
I will be pulling a tent trailer, and my buddy using his "built" work Sprinter van (as an RV).
2 weeks length of stay (in Baja)

Very self sustaining, as in trailer built to work well for dry camping, we do summer/winter/snow camps in Cascades.
Domestic water biggest challenge. Minimum 22 miles round trip to refill.I bring LOTS of gallon storage. Several purified water plants in Mulege. Service water is free.

We can leave as early as October and as late as mid-December.
Earlier is warmer and less wind. Less tourists. More open campsites. Less wait in restaurants.

Would like to get into the best weather, dont want the high heat of summer or cold nights of the winter seasons, have kids enjoy the warm "cool" water, kayak in the bay, hopefully snorkel and mountain bike.

When I dove concepcion I found 67 degree water eight feet in depth December. October is definitely less chilly all the way around.

Hope This Helps

durrelllrobert - 5-14-2013 at 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by SFandH

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Originally posted by durrelllrobert

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I agree that it is really not viable to trek it all in one day

I'd say that top speed pulling boat was 55 mph. Left Loreto at 0400 BCS time and arrived Punta Banda at 1730 BCN time. Oh, your right, that's 12.5 hours; not 10.5. Here's what Google maps says it takes in a car:

Driving directions to Delegación Maneadero from Loreto, BCS

Suggested routes

1,022 km, 11 hours 41 mins

Carr Federal 1

Nikson - 5-14-2013 at 12:33 PM

Great answers (honestly didnt expect anything less from you guys)...

Seems like a great bunch of folks here, who's like us - just enjoy life at its best, and not necessarily in a 5star accommodations...

So to clear up the smoke - this is what I gathered from the most answers:

Cross the border, and stop somewhere half point to Mulege and rest/eat/sleep and be there next day.

Better time of the year - October (vs December)

Fill gas in El Rosario (a MUST)

Food/most of necessities can be found in Mulege

no cell service of any kind at the beachspots, so will have to make a run to mulege for the wifi spots.

be careful driving (I guess Mexico is similar someway to Russia (my birthcountry) - thus I'll keep my russian savvy driving skills)

Nikson - 5-14-2013 at 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Frank
Hey Nikson! Welcome to BN, see the answers are flowing already. (Frank from Expedition Portal) The one thing we all have in common on this board is the love of Baja and it's people.

Frank,

its awesome where people find each other together in the same interest, isnt it?

Definitely hope that this trip will put us on the same page with lots of other Nomads, and have this become an annual thing, since I would love that...

Nikson - 5-14-2013 at 01:28 PM

is there a closer (and may be better) area to explore than Conception bay?
is it worth the drive?

Just like to kick back at the beach, minor activity, mostly water play for kids and such.

BajaBlanca - 5-14-2013 at 01:44 PM

Oh you will LOVE the bay of Conception

There are tons of great places between the border and the bay but the bay is like the bahamas or hawaii or the greek islands or tahiti in its beauty. That is my opinion.

mtgoat666 - 5-14-2013 at 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Nikson
is there a closer (and may be better) area to explore than Conception bay?
is it worth the drive?

Just like to kick back at the beach, minor activity, mostly water play for kids and such.

lots of nice beaches at bahia de los angeles. lots of good beaches on south side of vizcaino penninsula.

Papers / Permits / Visas

Nikson - 5-14-2013 at 02:27 PM

something I missed at the start...

as far as border crossing itself, whats needed to be done, other than have a US Passport.

Vehicle papers of certain kind?
Long stay permits (personal)?
Trailer insurance?
Medical insurance?

mulegemichael - 5-14-2013 at 02:47 PM

above all else indulge yourself in some of mulege's finest eateries; scotties el candil and dany's carnita's on saturday morning....you'll thank me.

David K - 5-14-2013 at 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by Nikson
something I missed at the start...

as far as border crossing itself, whats needed to be done, other than have a US Passport.

Vehicle papers of certain kind?
Long stay permits (personal)?
Trailer insurance?
Medical insurance?

You are technically required to obtain a tourist card ('FMM') at the border if you plan to be anywhere in Mexico over 72 hours or drive south of the border region. The border region is unclear, but in the past was to Maneadero (10 miles south of Ensenada) or San Felipe on the east side of Baja. In recent years, it seems to be the entire state of Baja California, since the one and only checkpoint for tourist cards was on Hwy. 1 at the border of Baja California Sur (near Guerrero Negro). In any case, who goes to Baja Sur for 0-72 hours? At the Tijuana border, you will see the building at the new crossing with parking... The office is called INM and you can get a free FMM for up to 7 days, or pay for one good for up to 180 days (about $23US).

NO vehicle permit is needed for the Baja peninsula, only if you go to the mainland, south of Guaymas. Mexican Auto Insurance is most highly recommended, click on the link at the top of this web page: http://bajabound.com and print out your policy at home, before you leave, for the days you want, or get a cheaper 6 or 12 month policy if you will be in Mexico more than 3 weeks.

David K - 5-14-2013 at 05:12 PM

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San Felipe area south, Bahia San Luis Gonzaga/ Gonzaga Bay, Bahia de los Angeles (L.A. Bay), Bahia las Animas, Playa San Rafael, Punta San Francisquito are all in the northern state of Baja California and have fine, sandy beaches with 0- to all services, depending where.

In the southern state, on the gulf side, Bahia Concepcion has many camping beaches, then south of Loreto is Playa Ligui beach... after that, it is a long drive before you get near the gulf again, at La Paz.

On the Pacific side, Bahia Asuncion is a top choice of Baja Nomads... camping at Campo Sirena or a bed & breakfast/ room at Shari's many rooms... http://bahiaasuncion.com

20 miles south of San Felipe (Shell Island, near Rancho Percebu):

Gonzaga Bay (Alfonsina's Resort):

Bahia de los Angeles:

Playa San Rafael:

Punta San Francisquito:

Bahia Concepcion:

Playa La Perla, Bahia Concepcion:

Playa Ligui, south of Loreto:

[Edited on 5-15-2013 by David K]

rts551 - 5-14-2013 at 05:25 PM

Since you are a first timer to Baja. Ignore the folks who blast up and down the Peninsula. 2 reasons. First the road is unforgiving...I don't want to pass just see you off the road on an off-camber turn. Take your time.
Second, it is BEAUTIFUL and different. You will want to see the many wonders of Baja...Things you can't see any where else. Again take your time and enjoy.

I have been traveling Baja since a child 195.... and still find it amazing.

David K - 5-14-2013 at 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by rts551
Since you are a first timer to Baja. Ignore the folks who blast up and down the Peninsula. 2 reasons. First the road is unforgiving...I don't want to pass just see you off the road on an off-camber turn. Take your time.
Second, it is BEAUTIFUL and different. You will want to see the many wonders of Baja...Things you can't see any where else. Again take your time and enjoy.

I have been traveling Baja since a child 195.... and still find it amazing.

Right on!

hayb - 5-15-2013 at 09:25 AM

I think most of the do’s are pretty much covered. Have done several trips pulling fishing boats on this highway. Once you get south of Ensenada in many places the roads get much narrower. Pulling any type trailer is a challenge on Mex 1. You will notice that there are hardly any shoulders on the highway. Make sure your trailer tires/spare and bearings are in good condition. Lastly you do want stop before it gets dark, the road is MUCH dimmer than in the US, mostly due to dim reflectors and paint. That is a beautiful part of Baja! Have a wonderful time.

BajaBlanca - 5-15-2013 at 10:59 AM

You know.....if you just want to go to a beach and chill for a bit with family, then maybe the Bay of LA is a better choice....it is really a very long drive to Conception. By stopping sooner, it means more time to swim.

And Bahia de Los Angeles is stunning as you pull in.....islands and blue waters...friendly folk.....very nice beaches.

It is your call since, LA Bay, Shari's in Asuncion and obviously Bay of Concepcion and other spots further on are bee you tee full.

Nikson - 5-15-2013 at 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by David K

You are technically required to obtain a tourist card ('FMM') at the border if you plan to be anywhere in Mexico over 72 hours or drive south of the border region. The border region is unclear, but in the past was to Maneadero (10 miles south of Ensenada) or San Felipe on the east side of Baja. In recent years, it seems to be the entire state of Baja California, since the one and only checkpoint for tourist cards was on Hwy. 1 at the border of Baja California Sur (near Guerrero Negro). In any case, who goes to Baja Sur for 0-72 hours? At the Tijuana border, you will see the building at the new crossing with parking... The office is called INM and you can get a free FMM for up to 7 days, or pay for one good for up to 180 days (about $23US).

NO vehicle permit is needed for the Baja peninsula, only if you go to the mainland, south of Guaymas. Mexican Auto Insurance is most highly recommended, click on the link at the top of this web page: http://bajabound.com and print out your policy at home, before you leave, for the days you want, or get a cheaper 6 or 12 month policy if you will be in Mexico more than 3 weeks.

So the "extended stay" permit can be obtained at the night of crossing technically?

desertcpl - 5-15-2013 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by hayb
I think most of the do’s are pretty much covered. Have done several trips pulling fishing boats on this highway. Once you get south of Ensenada in many places the roads get much narrower. Pulling any type trailer is a challenge on Mex 1. You will notice that there are hardly any shoulders on the highway. Make sure your trailer tires/spare and bearings are in good condition. Lastly you do want stop before it gets dark, the road is MUCH dimmer than in the US, mostly due to dim reflectors and paint. That is a beautiful part of Baja! Have a wonderful time.

you forgot springs on the trailer,, I had a trip from hell pulling a small 5th wheel.. some trailers just are not made for Baja period
you hear storys of them just coming apart

Nikson - 5-15-2013 at 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
You know.....if you just want to go to a beach and chill for a bit with family, then maybe the Bay of LA is a better choice....it is really a very long drive to Conception. By stopping sooner, it means more time to swim.

And Bahia de Los Angeles is stunning as you pull in.....islands and blue waters...friendly folk.....very nice beaches.

It is your call since, LA Bay, Shari's in Asuncion and obviously Bay of Concepcion and other spots further on are bee you tee full.

We are definitely reviewing all of the suggestions right now, and looking into seeing which way we want to approach this whole trip.

We are guessing that we might be taking an extra day or two to get to Conception Bay, and possibly stop at these suggested sites/beaches on our way there - this way we have something to compare to...

Great suggestions, much appreciated!!!

chuckie - 5-15-2013 at 05:16 PM

Hey! They are all pretty wonderful..just goand explore...Baja is not a place to gotta get there by..etc.....

David K - 5-15-2013 at 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by Nikson

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So the "extended stay" permit can be obtained at the night of crossing technically?

The latest word posted here on Nomad is that the FMM can be obtained and paid for 24/7 at Tijuana where I-5 crosses the border into Mexico. Not so sure about Otay or Mexicali for their hours. Tecate INM has limited hours and it is not a 24 hour open border, either.

It is simply a type of visa, called a 'tourist card' and it is also known as an FMM (used to be called an FM-T). It is a small piece of paper you fill in your name and 180 days (if they don't beat you to it and put in 90), plus they may stamp your passport, too.

Here was mine from last July, and the lady official was supper nice and filled it all in for us, and she had no problem when I asked her to make it for 180 days as we would be crossing the border more than once after that day, and she said that was FINE to use it for multiple crossings (but you only need it for over 72 hours in Mexico or travel beyond the border zone for any period):

[Edited on 5-16-2013 by David K]

bkbend - 5-16-2013 at 03:42 PM

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is there a closer (and may be better) area to explore than Conception bay? is it worth the drive?

You can explore some nice places that were mentioned like south of San Felipe or Bahia de Los Angeles but once you get to Concepcion Bay you'll wonder why you wasted the time. I've had my kids at all those places and Concepcion was always the favorite. For a first trip go there, set up camp, and enjoy yourself. Spend an hour or so checking all the campsites from Santispac to La Perla and you'll find something to fit your needs. Most of the coves in Conception will also provide better wind protection than beaches outside the area.

Take the two days and don't rush the trip as previously mentioned. There are lots of places to kill an hour or two exploring on the way down. My favorites: Mission San Fernando, the arroyo north of Catavina, the square in San Ignacio, walking around Santa Rosalia (don't take a motorhome into Santa Rosalia, at least more than a block or so.)

As for gas in El Rosario, I prefer the Los Pinos station south of San Quintin, easier to negotiate, clean restrooms, and a mini-mart for road snacks or coffee. It adds 35 miles to the no gas stretch but still only around 250 miles.

One you learn the ropes on this trip you can start looking at other places on your next trip.

[Edited on 5-17-2013 by bkbend]

David K - 5-16-2013 at 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by bkbend
As for gas in El Rosario, I prefer the Los Pinos station south of Guerrero Negro, easier to negotiate, clean restrooms, and a mini-mart for road snacks or coffee. It adds 35 miles to the no gas stretch but still only around 250 miles.

The Los Pinos station is south of Lazaro Card##as and San Quintin... about Km. marker 11. Guerrero Negro is what is 250 miles south of there.

bkbend - 5-17-2013 at 09:29 AM

Aaak, don't know where my brain was, thanks DK.

DavidE - 5-17-2013 at 10:08 AM

I think wind may be less of an issue in Concepcion than Bahia de Los Angeles. Factor in such tangibles as a stop in San Ignacio, comparing "downtown" Bahia de Los Angeles to Mulege, visiting the mision, and old prison, and things may not be so "equal". Except for perhaps La Gringa, swimming quality at BdeLA isn't the same for me as it is at Santispac or Coyote.

If a day's time or distance was critical then BdeLA would become more attractive for camping IMHO. gosh darnned wind has plagued me too many times in Bahia de Los Angeles.

2002maniac - 5-17-2013 at 11:43 AM

My wife and I just returned from our first trip to baja together. We spent 10 days crossing in Algodones-San Felipe-Gonzaga-BayofLA-San Ignacio-Bahia concepcion-loreto

Concepcion was by far our favorite. We spent one night at playa econdida and had the place to ourselves. Beautiful little beach. We stayed the next night at Requezon and loved it too. Swimming and snorkeling was best at Escondida.

Only hiccup of our trip was with the Tourist Card. The Oficina de Inmigracion in Algodones is not open on sundays. The Aduana agent told us to continue our trip and get the Permiso in Grro Negro. Once we got there, the INM agent said he could not issue the tourist card but that we really wouldn't need it anyway and sent us on our way. I was a little nervous about this, but nobody ever asked to see it. Oh well?

We had a great lunch at El Patron in Mulege near the lighthouse. Enjoy!

DavidE - 5-17-2013 at 12:02 PM

Speaking of which...

Has the migra decorating the ag spray station at the monumento given up for the time being?

When I showed him my inmigrado and CURP card the look on his face was similar to one I would get if I tried paying with monopoly money. He had me pull over and he telephoned the office for confirmation. I would prefer to not lose 20 minutes again.

Nikson - 5-30-2013 at 10:56 PM

more awesome advise, family is getting a bit anxious and happy to see that summer is here...

after my overlanding 4x4 trip to Colorado & Utah (Moab), I'll be getting ready for the Mexico trip.

Tent Trailer is getting much love with various creature-comfort options, and will be setup pretty well for long dry camp, although mainly I think that 2x5Gal propane & my Honda 2Kw generator, will be sufficient to keep us pretty happy.

If anyone reading this wanting to add more info - feel free, I'll chime in to the thread as time goes,

Again - much appreciate everyone's advice.

David K - 5-31-2013 at 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Nikson
more awesome advise, family is getting a bit anxious and happy to see that summer is here...

after my overlanding 4x4 trip to Colorado & Utah (Moab), I'll be getting ready for the Mexico trip.

Tent Trailer is getting much love with various creature-comfort options, and will be setup pretty well for long dry camp, although mainly I think that 2x5Gal propane & my Honda 2Kw generator, will be sufficient to keep us pretty happy.

If anyone reading this wanting to add more info - feel free, I'll chime in to the thread as time goes,

Again - much appreciate everyone's advice.

Just review posts on the Trip Reports forum here on Nomad... Have a great time!

Alm - 5-31-2013 at 11:59 AM

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There isn't anything closer to CB than CB. It's a long bay. And there is hardly anything reasonably close AND a lot better at the same time. Mulege has a few RV parks, usually better than those in CB - cleaner, and/or with water and electricity - but this is not close, and they are not on the shore.

As others noted, don't drive in the night. Don't underestimate the road quality and obstacles like military check-points. Your average speed won't be over 40-45 if you value your safety. Getting papers at the border takes time too. Ensenada traffic is annoying, terrible road pavement, this takes time too, I would say the best time to get through Ensenada is early Saturday or Sunday, and the worst time is weekday mornings.

Propane plant about 8 miles before St Rosalia on your left is the only place to replace/refill your portable tanks, and propane fridge takes A LOT - count on 1.5-2.0 lbs a day. There are few smaller semi-legal places where you can replace/refill those tanks, but the plant is the only reliable.

BajaBlanca - 5-31-2013 at 02:07 PM

Vote for Bahia Concepcion! :bounce:

Alm - 5-31-2013 at 02:41 PM

One more thing to mention about Concepcion bay - you don't get to see the horizon. Except for the first one or two camps, which are not the best. It can also get crowded in winter, though you can always choose from a few camps.

If October doesn't work, then November is still fine - less heat in daytime, and water is still warm in shallow places. December can be good on some days, but generally is not the best time - short daylight, cold foggy nights, hail is possible.