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Son arrested in Mexico

bajanow - 5-15-2013 at 11:18 AM

My friend's son was arrested today in Mexico City. I seem to remember an article or ad on this board for an attorney in Mexico that would help travelers that got in legal trouble. Any suggestions or referrals would be appreciated.

micah202 - 5-15-2013 at 11:29 AM

...sorry,,I don'tknow of the lawyer,,,but best of luck,,,I hope things turn out okay!

DENNIS - 5-15-2013 at 11:36 AM

Not having any idea what the beef is, I will say, the sooner someone gets down there with money, the less costly it will be. The longer it takes, the more people are involved.
I don't ever recall any discussion of criminal lawyers on this board. Immigration and Naturalization lawyers have been discussed.

Best of luck.

bajajudy - 5-15-2013 at 11:38 AM

I would get in touch with the American embassy in Mexico City.
Good luck.

Cypress - 5-15-2013 at 11:39 AM

Why was he arrested?

DENNIS - 5-15-2013 at 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
I would get in touch with the American embassy in Mexico City.
Good luck.


The embassy, being contacted by the police, will go to see him and make a call for him. That's the procedure here and hopefully there.

AmoPescar - 5-15-2013 at 11:59 AM

CALL Celia Diaz at the BINATIONAL EMERGENCY COMMITTEE....

for some advice. Helping people in MX with problems is her/their business and she has MANY connections at all levels of govt. in both MX and the US.

http://www.binationalemergency.org

ALL the info you need is on their website.


Miguelamo :yes: :yes: :yes:

DavidE - 5-15-2013 at 12:02 PM

Dennis, I have stood on the sidelines many times and watched what happens. Your advice is right on the mark. Abogados in Mexico are like "brokers" between cops and the accused. You can bet your arse they will make rescuers "broke". Unless money is no object someone has to go down there and babysit this thing from beginning to end. The kid will be fed DEVIL'S ISLAND grade slop. He needs to have someone to bring him real food.

If the charges are federal, narcotics for instance, things are going to be more complicated. So are crimes of violence. Or robbery where great value is assigned.

Cops and the judiciary in Mexico prime directive...

¿WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME?

Let things sit and you'll have a gosh darnned regiment to feed.

Mexitron - 5-15-2013 at 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
Dennis, I have stood on the sidelines many times and watched what happens. Your advice is right on the mark. Abogados in Mexico are like "brokers" between cops and the accused. You can bet your arse they will make rescuers "broke". Unless money is no object someone has to go down there and babysit this thing from beginning to end. The kid will be fed DEVIL'S ISLAND grade slop. He needs to have someone to bring him real food.

If the charges are federal, narcotics for instance, things are going to be more complicated. So are crimes of violence. Or robbery where great value is assigned.

Cops and the judiciary in Mexico prime directive...

¿WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME?

Let things sit and you'll have a gosh darnned regiment to feed.


My Mexican friend recently had the experience of a construction company taking over his property in Ixtapa for use as their storage lot. So I said what's the big deal---you have the papers, call the police and have them kicked out. "Senor, you don't know Mexico." Seems he had to pay a lawyer to serve the papers to the judicio who would tell the police to kick them out.

Embassy

Loretana - 5-15-2013 at 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by bajajudy
I would get in touch with the American embassy in Mexico City.
Good luck.


These people are the last ones you want to call.

The Ministerio Publico will, by International Treaty, contact the American Embassy to inform them an American is in custody.

If the young man is still in the Separos, he has a chance to get out before an Auto Formal de Prision is dictated by a Mexican Judge.

This is like a snakebite. What happens in the first few hours COUNTS.

If it was my son, I'de be on a plane headed south with CASH.

DENNIS - 5-15-2013 at 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by Loretana

These people are the last ones you want to call.



For more than clear reason. Once you bring in the Embassy yourself, it becomes a public issue. Most private negotiations are closed out and buying the ticket to fly may be out of the question.
Then, you have to wait for the wheels of justice to turn, and they do that like they're stuck in cement.

Loretana - 5-15-2013 at 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Loretana

These people are the last ones you want to call.



For more than clear reason. Once you bring in the Embassy yourself, it becomes a public issue. Most private negotiations are closed out and buying the ticket to fly may be out of the question.
Then, you have to wait for the wheels of justice to turn, and they do that like they're stuck in cement.


DENNIS
That is exactly what happened to a "friend"....

He ended up spending 42 months in the Oaxaca Penitentiary when the Embassy got involved......

during the first week, however, the Judicial Federal Police held him in a jail cell in their offices waiting for his partners to bring a nice fat bribe to let him go....

bajanow - 5-15-2013 at 01:47 PM

Thanks everyone, and you can relax. It was a scam known as "The Grandparent Scam." It goes like this, Grandparent received a call from grandson. Little Jimmy is crying and a hysterical. He tells a tale of being arrested and in jail in a foreign country, in this case guns and cocaine were found in his car. Please send money ASAP. Western Union wire instructions are given. What's a loving grandparent to do? Google "son arrested in foreign country calls grandparent for money" for more information.

Loretana - 5-15-2013 at 01:51 PM

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Originally posted by bajanow
Thanks everyone, and you can relax. It was a scam known as "The Grandparent Scam." It goes like this, Grandparent received a call from grandson. Little Jimmy is crying and a hysterical. He tells a tale of being arrested and in jail in a foreign country, in this case guns and cocaine were found in his car. Please send money ASAP. Western Union wire instructions are given. What's a loving grandparent to do? Google "son arrested in foreign country calls grandparent for money" for more information.


In my opinion, the jerks that perpetrate these scams should spend 24 hours being waterboarded with Tehuacan sparkling mineral water by some coked out Federales just like my "friend" did back in 1978!!

DavidE - 5-15-2013 at 02:54 PM

Don't forget the P-nche polvo chilies piquin added to the agua mineral Loretana! It'll clean out the sinuses!

"Aghhh! OK I'm An Elephant! I'm An Elephant!"

chuckie - 5-15-2013 at 03:20 PM

I rather like the warm pepsi being squirted up your nose, while 2 cops hold you upside down. has a bit more "Panache"

MMc - 5-15-2013 at 03:41 PM

The Preferred liquid of choice is warm Coca-cola. Have a riot and they call a Coka-cola truck. The guards will point at somebody and shake their hand, like shaking up a bottle.

EnsenadaDr - 5-15-2013 at 04:42 PM

David,

I had a good friend who went back to the States, an American. While she was here she got involved with a guy who shot someone on a drug heist and was chased by the police. The guy ended up in jail. She hired a Mexican attorney and paid him a few thousand dollars, and the guy got off in a few months.
Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
Dennis, I have stood on the sidelines many times and watched what happens. Your advice is right on the mark. Abogados in Mexico are like "brokers" between cops and the accused. You can bet your arse they will make rescuers "broke". Unless money is no object someone has to go down there and babysit this thing from beginning to end. The kid will be fed DEVIL'S ISLAND grade slop. He needs to have someone to bring him real food.

If the charges are federal, narcotics for instance, things are going to be more complicated. So are crimes of violence. Or robbery where great value is assigned.

Cops and the judiciary in Mexico prime directive...

¿WHAT'S IN IT FOR ME?

Let things sit and you'll have a gosh darnned regiment to feed.

DavidE - 5-16-2013 at 03:21 PM

Good Friend

Got Involved With A Guy That Shot Someone In A Drug Heist


Oops, Ensenada Dr. I'm out of my league on this one. Yeah, I just can imagine me shooting someone in a drug heist and getting booted for a few thousand dollars. Have an accident and hurt someone and say hasta la vista baybee to a few grand.

This would be like going to court in the USA and the judge sentencing...

"Well this IS your first conviction of being a major drug lab operator and well, shoot, 5 years probation!" Bang goes the gavel and you walk.

I am not touched with the golden finger of fate, nor was "Wes" who was found to have rifles stored and pot growing aboard his sailboat. Confiscated forever, served a year in the La Paz reclusorio centro de rehabilitacion. Nor Eddy, in Manzanillo, who scored an ounce of pot, and the judiciales nailed him 2 minutes later. The procuraduria del estado (Colima) demanded five grand in grinning Benjamin Franklins or Eddy was to go up the river. No one had five grand so up the river Eddy went.

Ministerio Publicos are sort of deaf until they hear the rustle of sizable banknotes. I once hired an abogado to look into nationalization of my car and he wanted three hundred dollars "up front" to "research". He said the arrangements would cost more.

Ever have anything Notarized in Mexico? Those that haven't may be in for a little sticker shock. Even on an "I am me" document.

DENNIS - 5-16-2013 at 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by DavidE
I once hired an abogado to look into nationalization of my car and he wanted three hundred dollars "up front" to "research". He said the arrangements would cost more.



Don't you just love the idea of paying them to do the homework they should have done in school?

DENNIS - 5-16-2013 at 03:57 PM

I wonder what happened to this guy's friend's kid? We ought to insist on follow-up in exchange for our free legal advice. The school of hard knocks wasn't free. :light:

wessongroup - 5-16-2013 at 05:40 PM

Must say, I didn't have a computer or cell phone back in the day

Sometimes "sledding" could get a bit tough ........ :lol::lol:

BajaGuera - 5-17-2013 at 06:08 AM

Dennis - about the thirteen posting down bajanow reported that it was the grandparent phone call scam.

DENNIS - 5-17-2013 at 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by BajaGuera
Dennis - about the thirteen posting down bajanow reported that it was the grandparent phone call scam.



Ahhh yesss....I remember now. Thanks.

desertcpl - 5-17-2013 at 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by BajaGuera
Dennis - about the thirteen posting down bajanow reported that it was the grandparent phone call scam.



Ahhh yesss....I remember now. Thanks.





Oh yes,, Happy Hour

DENNIS - 5-17-2013 at 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by desertcpl


Oh yes,, Happy Hour


HappyHappyHappy..:biggrin:

Bob H - 5-18-2013 at 07:08 AM

Give them the 'cinnamon challenge'....

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Steve&Debby - 5-18-2013 at 09:09 PM

My mother got the same call ,saying I had been arrested in Mexico and she had to send money ASAP. The person that called was crying and said it was me and could not talk much and then hung up. But they talked long enough to tell my mother to send money.