BajaNomad - Question on tires

Question on tires

Bubba - 6-16-2013 at 02:04 PM

I have a 2010 Tacoma 4WD. I'm almost due for new tires and want something a little more aggressive than the factory tires. I won't be doing that much off roading or beach driving but some. This truck is my daily driver which includes some freeway driving in Ca so I don't want that annoying hum which a to aggressive tread seems to do. I would appreciate any information on what you folks are using. Thanks.

Ken Cooke - 6-16-2013 at 02:18 PM

I just posted this up (moments ago) on a Jeep Wrangler forum where the BFGoodrich vs. the Goodyear Duratracs were being debated:
Goodyear Duratracs or BFGoodrich

The consensus leans towards the Duratracs, but I don't know how much noise these tires emit. Here is what I reported:

The limited amount of real world mud testing showed that these tires handle some mud, but are not intended for mud usage.

The Ford Ranger and my Rubicon (far right) both have AT/KOs and made it across the muddy desert creek in the background.

Dropping into the muddy creek

Coming out of the Swamp at Mission Impossible near Cataviña in Baja California.

The Swamp - Mission Impossible near Cataviña in Baja California

Gold Crown Road - just outside of Joshua Tree NP
The black JK with AT/KOs ran the mud pit and didn't get stuck - (although, he kept up his momentum the entire time)

TrXus MTs w/ 4/32nds tread required the winch cable

AT/KOs packed in w/mud

MTRs packed in w/mud

MTRs w/Kevlar - not packed in w/mud

Tacoma Tires

bajaguy - 6-16-2013 at 02:25 PM

I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]

mulegejim - 6-16-2013 at 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Bubba
I have a 2010 Tacoma 4WD. I'm almost due for new tires and want something a little more aggressive than the factory tires. I won't be doing that much off roading or beach driving but some. This truck is my daily driver which includes some freeway driving in Ca so I don't want that annoying hum which a to aggressive tread seems to do. I would appreciate any information on what you folks are using. Thanks.

You might want to take a look at Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S tires. For the use you describe they would, I believe, work very well. Jim

Bubba - 6-16-2013 at 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.

I like these, do you mind me asking how much you paid and where you bought them? Thanks.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]

Bubba - 6-16-2013 at 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by mulegejim

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You might want to take a look at Yokohama Geolandar A/T-S tires. For the use you describe they would, I believe, work very well. Jim

Thanks Jim, I'll look at these also.

J.P. - 6-16-2013 at 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by bajaguy
I have a 2006 Tacoma Double Cab Short Bed and just purchased a set of Toyo Open Country A/T 265/70-16's.

With 2500 miles on them I really like how they handle and no road noise to speak of. Most of my driving is city or highway, with little or no off-road.

Just put 1500 miles on them from Carson City, NV to Ensenada and return, plus driving around Ensenada with no concerns or problems.........big plus is they have a 65k mileage warranty.

http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/open-country-at-ii-on-off-...

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]

I just sold a Nissan 4x4 that had the Toyo Open Country tires on it they were on the truck when I bought it 3 years ago and we ran it all over Baja When I sold the truck they still showed little wear.

When I buy new tires I always buy Cooper A.T.R. no road noise and the wear great I lived in the Sierra's a lot of years and Like how they wear My Suburban 4x4 has a set on it now so far after 20 + thousand mi. they still look good

bajaguy - 6-16-2013 at 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by Bubba

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Somewhere in the neighborhood of $850, mounted/balanced/tax

Purchased from Las Schwab Tire Centers:

http://www.lesschwab.com/

Free rotations, balancing and flat repairs. Purchased from Schwab since I travel in NoCal, Nevada, Utah and Oregon.

I'm sure you can purchase on-line also

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by bajaguy]

Tires

skippermike - 6-16-2013 at 03:14 PM

I had BFG ATs on my Ranger. Good tires, a little noisy.
Got a 2008 Tacoma DCLB, 4WD, and put on Toyo ATs. Very good tires. At 32,000 I got a set of BFG Rugged Terrains. These have been very good. A little quieter than the Toyos, and better in the rain.
We do race chasing and pit setups in Baja - go just about everywhere. No problems getting stuck, very good in sand/silt - don't seem to want to dig a hole for themselves like a more aggressive MT-type tire. Don't know for snow or deep mud.
Very smooth riding at speeds.
I'd recommend them.
Good luck.

chippy - 6-16-2013 at 03:16 PM

I have General Grabber at2 E sidewall on my diesel Suburban 4x4 and P rated sidewall my VW Safari. They are similiar to the BF Goodrich at ko. They are quite on the highway and are a great off road tire but driving on the beach won´t be done with these. I think they would be as DK says "Grave diggers"

For highway and sand the Michelins ATX I had before these would be a good tire.

[Edited on 6-16-2013 by chippy]

tripledigitken - 6-16-2013 at 03:20 PM

I have the "Geo's" on a Subaru Outback and am very pleased with them. They are surprizedly good offr oad in baja. Very little hiway noise over the stock tires. Looks like they should last 40k.

Ken

Wally - 6-16-2013 at 03:21 PM

Have got BFG Rugged Trails on the Tundra and 4Runner. Very happy. And not crazy priced.

measomsan - 6-16-2013 at 04:30 PM

on the subject of tires. came down 60ty days ago in my 2013 FJ crusier it is a limited Trail edition with nice tries. Did not let air out crossing from Ganzaga to GN.

Headed back to texas july 2nd. Not sure about the air letting out thing. Is it something I should do?

woody with a view - 6-16-2013 at 04:41 PM

FWIW, my toyo ATs got me all of 23k miles.....

i've since put on these: http://www.michelinman.com/tire-selector/category/light-truc...

let's be real. how long do you EXPECT the tires to last vs. how much off roading you do? if i see 60k outta these tires i'll be stoked! afterall, most of the off roading is preceded by 1000's of miles of pavement..... YMMV

bajaguy - 6-16-2013 at 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
let's be real. how long do you EXPECT the tires to last vs. how much off roading you do? if i see 60k outta these tires i'll be stoked! afterall, most of the off roading is preceded by 1000's of miles of pavement..... YMMV

No real off roading, unless you count Baja potholes. Mostly highway.

Rotate every 3 to 5K, maintain air pressure, alignment. Should get 45K + no problem

Bubba - 6-16-2013 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by woody with a view
FWIW, my toyo ATs got me all of 23k miles.....

i've since put on these: http://www.michelinman.com/tire-selector/category/light-truc...

let's be real. how long do you EXPECT the tires to last vs. how much off roading you do? if i see 60k outta these tires i'll be stoked! afterall, most of the off roading is preceded by 1000's of miles of pavement..... YMMV

I hear you on the 23k miles, my truck has 32k on it and these stock tires, Bridgestone Duelers are pretty much shot and this is after very "easy driving", no real off roading to speak of.

There's so much good information here, thank you.

monoloco - 6-16-2013 at 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
I have the "Geo's" on a Subaru Outback and am very pleased with them. They are surprizedly good offr oad in baja. Very little hiway noise over the stock tires. Looks like they should last 40k.

Ken

I'll second the Geos, I have a set on my F350 and they have held up well and were a bargain at $750 at America's Tire. At the time I bought them Les Schwab wanted $1200 for a set of the Toyo Open Country's.

BajaNomad - 6-16-2013 at 07:24 PM

Of potential interest:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.js...

I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).

Sounds like my own off-road needs and use are beyond what you're looking for though. Perhaps you should consider the very highly rated Firestone Destination AT's?

The place(s) likely to have the best prices on Bridgestone and Firestone are these tire centers:
http://www.firestonecompleteautocare.com

Bubba - 6-16-2013 at 07:49 PM

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I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).

Wow, those are the stock tires on my truck and I've never seen worse. I suppose they wore ok in some areas, there was no side ware or anything, I've always brought it back to the dealer on 5k miles, tires rotated etc but there's no almost no tread left after 32k miles. It's where the rubber meets the road that's shot, I don't like it.

mtgoat666 - 6-16-2013 at 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Bubba
I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).

I think several tires in dueler line. Bridgestone dueler a/t revos are pretty good. On my 2nd set now. First set lasted over 50k miles. Stock duelers came on my 4runner and they lasted 50k miles. If you wear out tires in 30k miles I think your problem is lead foot /jack rabbit driving...

dizzyspots - 6-16-2013 at 08:32 PM

Hankook....was BFG ...switch on my FJ...now on my Tundra...great performance and great price......discounttire.com

Bubba - 6-16-2013 at 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by mtgoat666

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I appreciate the information but if you call my average speed on the freeway at 70 mph lead foot than I'm guilty and I know nothing about "jack rabbit driving". These tires are flat out junk but I didn't post this to bash them, I am simply asking advice on what to buy next.

BajaNomad - 6-16-2013 at 10:03 PM

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I doubt the Bridgestone Revo, Revo 2, or D693's (or their equivalent at the time) were stock equipment. As with my comment about the Goodyears - which were the stock tires on my 95 Tacoma - it's an apples-to-oranges comparison. Those Goodyears ("load range B" LT tires) were ruined quickly in Baja. I've been very abusive on tires - and the Bridgestones have take it all in stride from day 1 using them. The only time I've had an issue - it was driver-error... I didn't air down the tires when I should have along a rocky stretch east of Mission San Javier heading for the Comondus.

David K - 6-16-2013 at 10:29 PM

As also an owner of a 2010 Tacoma (4WD OFF ROAD), I have been very impressed with the traction and highway manors of the Hankook Dynapro ATM. It isn't giving me a lot of miles, mut no different than Toyo, Cooper, etc. that I have run on my previous Tacomas... and naturally all are better than the BFG Rugged Trails that come on the truck new.

I did go with the largest tire that will fit a stock Tacoma without any rub, 265/75-16 which is about 1" taller than what the truck comes with. The bonus is 1/2" more ground clearance and the speedometer reads correctly now. It was too fast with the stock tires.

The other good tires I have had on past Tacomas include the Toyo Open Country AT and the Cooper Discoverer ATR (on my 2005 Tacoma).

[Edited on 6-17-2013 by David K]

David K - 6-16-2013 at 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by measomsan
on the subject of tires. came down 60ty days ago in my 2013 FJ crusier it is a limited Trail edition with nice tries. Did not let air out crossing from Ganzaga to GN.

Headed back to texas july 2nd. Not sure about the air letting out thing. Is it something I should do?

Here's the deal... on graded (washboard) dirt roads, dropping the air will provide a smoother ride, less wear and tear. If you run 32-34 psi on the street, then go to around 22 psi for dirt roads. It will also help prevent sharp rocks from ripping into tires. I learned the hard way having rock punctured new or good, fully inflated tires a few times.

To cross deep sand, then dropping to 12-17 psi is the ticket.

Get a good electric air pump (that clips directly to the battery) to refill quickly once you are back to pavement or off the beach.

Pumping the tires back up to 34 psi from 17 psi takes 5 min. per tire with the Tsunami air pump... last month:

Bubba - 6-17-2013 at 08:39 AM

Ok, very good info here. Thank you once again to everybody.

Ken Cooke - 6-17-2013 at 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by David K

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Your pickup looks like it overheated. You need more airflow to that radiator while traveling in the desert.

wessongroup - 6-17-2013 at 01:15 PM

:lol:

David K - 6-17-2013 at 03:42 PM

The hood is up because my pump connects to the battery... It is a Toyota, so no engine issues, ever.

woody with a view - 6-17-2013 at 06:24 PM

i just ordered another Q Industries MV 50. the first one was a real workhorse so they deserve my repeat biz. funny thing, it looks EXECTLY like DK' tsunami..... http://www.amazon.com/Industries-MV50-SuperFlow-High-Volume-...

http://www.bing.com/shopping/master-heaters-master-flow-mf-1...

David K - 6-18-2013 at 07:59 AM

Quite a price difference, for the same unit? I still have my Harbor Freight air pump, too... It is just more bulky in its big plastic case. It was $49 on sale, back in 2005 or so...

Barry A. - 6-18-2013 at 08:18 AM

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Originally posted by David K
The hood is up because my pump connects to the battery... It is a Toyota, so no engine issues, ever.

I AM surprised, David, that those huge 'driving lights' don't appear to interfere with your cooling system as they do cover a lot of air-flow to your radiator, apparently.

Pretty amazing!!!

Barry

WideAngleWandering - 6-19-2013 at 09:38 AM

I'm using BF Goodrich KM2 mud terrains on my '84 diesel Landcruiser. I'm not saying that's the tire for you (I spend as much time off road as I can) but I can say that noise has not been an issue. I thought they might be annoying on the highway but they run smooth and there's no noticeable road noise. I do suspect, however, that they may have lowered my fuel economy a bit.

I use a VIAIR compressor to air down and re-inflate. I bought it on Amazon for less than $200 and it will inflate my tires from 18-34 psi in about a minute. Great compressor.

I wouldn't rely on Harbor Freight, personally, unless I knew who manufactured it.

You're usually not far from a llantera in Baja though, so I find I rarely have to use my compressor.

Ken Cooke - 6-19-2013 at 10:27 AM

I'm a Viair user too! That's my favorite accessory to use when going off-road. :bounce:

Or get some of these

durrelllrobert - 6-19-2013 at 11:10 AM

No sidewall problems or flats ever:

David K - 6-19-2013 at 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

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Originally posted by David K
The hood is up because my pump connects to the battery... It is a Toyota, so no engine issues, ever.

I AM surprised, David, that those huge 'driving lights' don't appear to interfere with your cooling system as they do cover a lot of air-flow to your radiator, apparently.

Pretty amazing!!!

Barry

The Lord said "Let there be light"... so he invented HID, and it was good! :light:

Phil C - 6-20-2013 at 08:08 AM

All my off road driving in Baja involves "airing down". Generaly to 14 to 20 front 18 to 24 rear depending on the load in my suburban. I've been using BFG A/Ts because of the three ply sidewall and the fact that the sidewall is presented to the terrain. Gone thru four sets and two suburbans with only a couple of flats, none in the sidewalls. I'm wondering if another manufactor makes a three or greater ply sidewall in a less aggressive tread?
As said before there are a lot of highway miles before and after off road.

Barry A. - 6-20-2013 at 08:28 AM

So many folks have mentioned "noisy" when talking about BFG AT's which I don't understand at all. None of my 3 vehicles are "noisy" on the road, and they all have BFG AT's--------------very strange.

Barry

David K - 6-20-2013 at 04:32 PM

Phil: Many off road, mud terrain, etc. tires have 3 ply sidewalls... My Cooper Discoverer STT tires did... However, I have never gotten a sidewall puncture on any of the non-3 ply sidewall tires I have run. Funny, but the only time I was in a vehicle that got one in the sidewall was BFG All Terrain TAs, and brand new ones, too... on a sandy road!

Barry, I agree that the All Terrain TA is a low noise tire... compared to others all terrain tires or to mud terrain tires.

Barry A. - 6-20-2013 at 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by David K
Phil: Many off road, mud terrain, etc. tires have 3 ply sidewalls... My Cooper Discoverer STT tires did... However, I have never gotten a sidewall puncture on any of the non-3 ply sidewall tires I have run. Funny, but the only time I was in a vehicle that got one in the sidewall was BFG All Terrain TAs, and brand new ones, too... on a sandy road!

Barry, I agree that the All Terrain TA is a low noise tire... compared to others all terrain tires or to mud terrain tires.

As I am sure you all are aware, the width of the rim vis-a-vis the width of the tire has a LOT to do with punctures in "side walls" of tires. The wider the rim the more exposed the tire sidewall is, and vice-versa. Run the proper rim width with the proper tire width and you will have few problems with side-wall punctures, all else being equal.

Barry

Ken Cooke - 6-20-2013 at 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.
So many folks have mentioned "noisy" when talking about BFG AT's which I don't understand at all. None of my 3 vehicles are "noisy" on the road, and they all have BFG AT's--------------very strange.

Barry

I do hear my BFG ATs at hwy speeds, but in comparison to the Interco Tires I ran previously, it is nothing to complain about. My loudest tire was the Super Swamper TSL-SX - a traction monster.

David K - 10-28-2013 at 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by WideAngleWandering
I'm using BF Goodrich KM2 mud terrains on my '84 diesel Landcruiser. I'm not saying that's the tire for you (I spend as much time off road as I can) but I can say that noise has not been an issue. I thought they might be annoying on the highway but they run smooth and there's no noticeable road noise. I do suspect, however, that they may have lowered my fuel economy a bit.

I use a VIAIR compressor to air down and re-inflate. I bought it on Amazon for less than $200 and it will inflate my tires from 18-34 psi in about a minute. Great compressor.

I wouldn't rely on Harbor Freight, personally, unless I knew who manufactured it.

You're usually not far from a llantera in Baja though, so I find I rarely have to use my compressor.

What has happened to WideAngleWandering???

WARNING!

woody with a view - 11-9-2013 at 09:03 AM

i just filled 2 trailer tires with my new MV 50 and on the 3rd tire the flapper broke on the piston side. the new and improved models have the flappers pressed in, unlike in my repair thread where they used a screw.

i wish i would have kept my old unit then i could just swap out the head....

David K - 11-9-2013 at 09:10 AM

Please report when you figured a solution Woody... for any other new MV 50 owners.

Solution!

woody with a view - 11-9-2013 at 12:58 PM

went down to the local auto parts store and paid WAY TOO MUCH vs. amazon.com but amazon couldn't ship it for 2-3 business days. i'm leaving friday morning and the thought of driving SOB without a compressor is only a little less horrific than going without surfboards!

i'll just return the broken one in a month for a full refund.

David K - 11-9-2013 at 02:40 PM

Does any remember the way we did it in the 60's and 70's... take a spark plug out, and replace it with the gizmo that uses the engine compression to operate an air pump to fill tire... was fast, but the hot spark plug removal was the only issue.

Edit... they are still available!! http://www.aerostich.com/engineair-power-pump.html

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by David K]

Phil S - 11-9-2013 at 03:46 PM

I don't drive into Baja without Toyo's. Been running them on my Dodge 3/4 ton 4X4 (worn out two of them over the years, a Chrysler Town & Country & now a Toyota Sienna. All with Toyo. Wifes Lexus has Toyo. Tough. High mileagable. But I never felt the need for off road treads, & found the standard tread of the Toyo always "got me through" down there. Check them out. You won't be sorry.

RnR - 11-10-2013 at 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by David K
Does any remember the way we did it in the 60's and 70's... take a spark plug out, and replace it with the gizmo that uses the engine compression to operate an air pump to fill tire... was fast, but the hot spark plug removal was the only issue.

Edit... they are still available!! http://www.aerostich.com/engineair-power-pump.html

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by David K]

Just out of curiosity, I checked the "spark plug compressor" website. Very interesting description of how it works --

"A pump unit threads into one of the engines spark plug holes, and as the engine runs/spins, fresh, clean air is pumped to the tires. The cylinder pump pulls air from the atmosphere, ensuring no gas or oil fumes turn your tires into a Hindenburg wannabe."

Really? So how does it stop the fuel delivery system from operating? Seems to me that the injectors/carburetor won't know the difference and will still be supplying fuel/air mix to the cylinder.

Am I missing something ????? :?:

RnR

captkw - 11-10-2013 at 07:57 AM

Nope, your right on target !! The injector will be injecting fuel and mix with the air and get pumped into the tire..(bad)..If you plan on being off the pavement IMO get the best pump you can find....nothing worse than getting to the last tire on your ride and the pump fails....1 low & 3 full...... :lol:

David K - 11-10-2013 at 11:57 AM

Nope, clean air goes into the tire... for the few minutes you are filling the tires, unburnt fuel goes out the exhaust. The compression of the engine operates a check valve where air enters the hose to the tires.

[Edited on 11-10-2013 by David K]

55steve - 11-10-2013 at 12:24 PM

If you want real air off road, this is the best system: http://www.kilbystore.com/

It's nice to be able to run air tools when the situation arises!

Brad Kilby is a good friend of mine and quite a few of us helped develop/field test this system.

[Edited on 11-10-2013 by 55steve]

TMW - 11-10-2013 at 12:26 PM

Pull the fuel pump fuse in your vehicle. That will stop any fuel from getting into the tire. For a 91 chevy 4x4 it's under the dash driver side and it also supplies power to the auto tranny clutch.

55steve - 11-10-2013 at 12:32 PM

We used the spark plug pump many years ago in our sand rails - never got any fuel into the tires.

Bubba - 11-10-2013 at 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by 55steve
We used the spark plug pump many years ago in our sand rails - never got any fuel into the tires.

Interesting. First time I've heard of this.

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-10-2013 at 03:36 PM

ELINVESTIG8R OCTOBER 2013

ELINVESTIG8R - 11-10-2013 at 04:19 PM

david,,david

captkw - 11-10-2013 at 04:31 PM

On almost All fuel injection systems..Fuel is injected while cranking !! On a older RAIL with a carb would not be a issue..the AIR BOSS looks nice.. Or you do what I've done for a lot of guys use the A/C cpmpressor as a air pump !! :bounce:

woody with a view - 11-10-2013 at 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by captkw
Or you do what I've done for a lot of guys use the A/C cpmpressor as a air pump !! :bounce:

winning!!! :light:

David K - 11-10-2013 at 10:44 PM

Guys, I don't have the spark plug device anymore... but in the 60's and 70's THAT IS HOW it was done...

I think we got it from Dick Cepek (do any of you kids know who HE was?) Not a tire brand then, he sold Armstrong tires... like the TRU TRAC and HI-WAY FLOATION tires. I had them both on my Baja buggy and Jeep. His stuff was BAJA-PROVEN ! :wow:

DK

captkw - 11-11-2013 at 09:17 AM

LOL..I don't know the guy....but his last name sounds like a cold/flu medicine...I have never seen that air/spark plug unit....that said...with a carb would be a OK way...But,,,Today with F.I. you would get a little gas in the mix....I travel with the KISS system..... :bounce:

....K&T

Neal Johns - 11-11-2013 at 09:41 AM

DK, I got my spark plug pump from Dick Cepek's store also. I didn't know how to use it with my horse and wagon, though. Neal

[Edited on 11-11-2013 by Neal Johns]

air stays inside

EdZeranski - 11-12-2013 at 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by BajaNomad
I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires

The 2005 ForeRunner has its second set of Bridgestone Dueler A/T tires, can't remember what the originals were when we bought the SUV. When it was time to replace the first set of Duelers I was told that Bridgestone had changed the tire completely but kept the same name and the newer tires were crap. Our mechanic called around and searched the web to find new old stock tires for us at the same price as the new production models. Great! Perhaps this is why people have had very different experience with Duelers. The 'Runner has 120+ thousand miles of hiway, Borrego, and Baja and I'm very happy with the Bridgestones....but not sure what will happen next time if I can't find the original production tires.

EdZ

Get out of there!!!

EdZeranski - 11-12-2013 at 10:54 AM

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. I didn't know how to use it with my horse and wagon, though. Neal[/size]

[Edited on 11-11-2013 by Neal Johns]

I bet there would have been a fight getting it installed

EdZ

Neal Johns - 11-12-2013 at 11:32 AM

Ed,
You are right, I did get splattered a little!
Neal

cabonotcho - 11-12-2013 at 11:59 AM

In Cabo I was unable to find tires that fit my daughters forerunner,had to go to a junk yard and pull them-only posting this to let folks know-new tires are expensive here and if you cant find something in Baja never give up if you try hard enough itll work out-thx and have a blessed day.

Marc - 11-14-2013 at 06:43 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666

Quote:
Originally posted by Bubba
I'm now a Bridgestone fanatic based upon my experience with the Dueler series tires I've used for quite a few years now. This, after having multiple BFG LT tire failures (and a Goodyear failure as well - but that's an apples-to-oranges comparison).

Wow, those are the stock tires on my truck and I've never seen worse. I suppose they wore ok in some areas, there was no side ware or anything, I've always brought it back to the dealer on 5k miles, tires rotated etc but there's no almost no tread left after 32k miles. It's where the rubber meets the road that's shot, I don't like it.

I think several tires in dueler line. Bridgestone dueler a/t revos are pretty good. On my 2nd set now. First set lasted over 50k miles. Stock duelers came on my 4runner and they lasted 50k miles. If you wear out tires in 30k miles I think your problem is lead foot /jack rabbit driving...

I've had to replace two Duelers so far on the Tundra. Busted side walls. Probably my fault. Great highway tires - no noise at all.

[Edited on 11-15-2013 by Marc]

Used Tires
captkw - 11-14-2013 at 06:48 PM

IMO and tire experts agree that used tires come with a host problems..first of not safe...second can wear your front end fast....Just a sayin...K&T

MMc - 11-14-2013 at 06:56 PM

I love tire threads, the same people saying the same things. Tires and trucks, one vs another, over and over. Most of my tire issues are because of me not the tire. I drive to fast, don't air down, air down to much, over load and drive to fast, Drive to fast over rocky places, you get the idea. Any tire that get me home without changing is a good tire. I prefer to drive on The best tire I can = a bit more expensive.

Marc - 11-14-2013 at 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by MMc
I love tire threads, the same people saying the same things. Tires and trucks, one vs another, over and over. Most of my tire issues are because of me not the tire. I drive to fast, don't air down, air down to much, over load and drive to fast, Drive to fast over rocky places, you get the idea. Any tire that get me home without changing is a good tire. I prefer to drive on The best tire I can = a bit more expensive.

Ditto

Barry A. - 11-14-2013 at 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by Marc

Quote:
Originally posted by MMc
I love tire threads, the same people saying the same things. Tires and trucks, one vs another, over and over. Most of my tire issues are because of me not the tire. I drive to fast, don't air down, air down to much, over load and drive to fast, Drive to fast over rocky places, you get the idea. Any tire that get me home without changing is a good tire. I prefer to drive on The best tire I can = a bit more expensive.

Ditto

NO!!!! You 2 MUST drive on BFG's---------you MUST!!! Sane people drive on BFG's-----all other's are suspect.

Whasa matta wid you guys???