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Good Work, Americans, the US is no longer the fattest of developed countries, Mexico is!!

EnsenadaDr - 7-9-2013 at 09:49 AM

Wow, are they now considering Mexico a "developed country"? And has Mexico become the fattest due to the influx of Americans? You read and decide. Note: I am putting this article out there, not because I am necessarily totally agreeing with it, but because it is "food for thought" pardon the pun.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/news/america-fattest-obese-un-14...

[Edited on 7-9-2013 by EnsenadaDr]

monoloco - 7-9-2013 at 10:45 AM

Obesity is epidemic here as is diabetes, I believe it's mostly due to the widespread acceptance now of processed foods. Also they drink Coca Cola like it's water. It's especially sad to see all the obese children.

bajacalifornian - 7-9-2013 at 11:01 AM

monoloco . . . Are you talkin' US or Mx? I'm confused.

Ateo - 7-9-2013 at 11:07 AM

All the junk food.....takis, chips, coca cola.....no exercise. I read California kids obesity went down recently for the first time.

monoloco - 7-9-2013 at 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by bajacalifornian
monoloco . . . Are you talkin' US or Mx? I'm confused.
I'm referring to our local area of Pescadero/Todos Santos. It seems like 20 years ago you hardly ever saw obese folks here. I guess that's what progress brings.

bajacalifornian - 7-9-2013 at 11:59 AM

We have a new POSH large well equiped gym in north Rosarito. 10 pesos for the yoga class my wife attended this morning. They call it the government gym. B.C. or fed I don't know. 27 woman of all sizes she says.

sancho - 7-9-2013 at 12:04 PM

Good work Americans? Americans include citizens from
Chile to Alaska...

vgabndo - 7-9-2013 at 03:03 PM

This is a map showing where the most of the obese people live and run-up our insurance rates.:fire:

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Bajaboy - 7-9-2013 at 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
This is a map showing where the most of the obese people live and run-up our insurance rates.:fire:


Look at all the Red states:lol:

Bajahowodd - 7-9-2013 at 04:55 PM

I read in another report that they blame Mexico for all the fried food they consume. Tacos, Tostadas, Empanadas, Quesedillas, Etc.

But, I have to agree with a bunch of folks here that sugared soft drinks are a major problem. Blame Vicente Fox! (look it up) And the proliferation of packaged junk fund. Think Takis. Which, by the way, are now distributed all over the states thanks to our friends at Barcel.

What baffles me is that there are a handful of Mediterranean nations on the list, even when nutritionists tout the Mediterranean diet.

Not sure if there is a single reason, or a simple cure, at least on a national basis. On a personal basis, we all know the answer.

Speaking of ......................

MrBillM - 7-9-2013 at 05:53 PM

I heard that Hostess Twinkies are coming back next month.

And, despite the Urban Tales, they will only have a shelf-life of 45 Days.

Which is up from the previous 28.

No doubt, improved chemical composition.

Yum.

Skipjack Joe - 7-9-2013 at 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Bajahowodd

What baffles me is that there are a handful of Mediterranean nations on the list, even when nutritionists tout the Mediterranean diet.



It's my understanding that very few mediterranean countries subsist on the mediterranean diet. Most of them have a small fraction of the nation whose that still eat traditionally that food. For example, in Italy only the very southern part of Calabria continues with it and I believe Sicily. Crete or Cyprus, as I recall, still eat traditional food. Parts of Morocco I believe, also.

Processed food and soda has made inroads most everywhere now. It's inexpensive and people drink it like water.

Trioka Terrible

SFandH - 7-10-2013 at 05:48 AM

Sugar, fat, and salt - stay away!

The relatively recent proliferation of American style convenience stores and fast food joints in Mexico is probably what put the country on top of the list, not its traditional diet, which although high in fat, does not include much sugar.

I've noticed that the OXXO stores always have some fresh fruit and veggies but they're in the back of the store or in a corner. They have V8 juice too, which is probably more nutritious than any soft drink and is a couple pesos cheaper, but good luck finding it. I can, but I know where to look.

A simple thing to do which would have a positive effect would be to put the more nutritious foods up front, near the checkout counter. Some folks would grab an apple or banana instead of a candy bar or a bag of chips.


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Bajaboy - 7-10-2013 at 07:01 AM

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Originally posted by SFandH
Sugar, fat, and salt - stay away!

The relatively recent proliferation of convenience stores and American fast food joints in Mexico is probably what put Mexico on top of the list, not their traditional diet, which although high in fat, does not include a lot of sugar.

I've noticed that the OXXO stores alwyas have some fresh fruit and veggies but they're in the back of the store or in a corner. They have V8 juice too, which is probably more nutritious than any soft drink and a couple pesos cheaper, but good luck finding it. I can, but I know where to look.

A simple thing to do which would have some positive effect would be to put the more nutritious foods up front, near the checkout counter. Some folks would grab an apple or banana instead of a snickers bar or a bag of chips.


[Edited on 7-10-2013 by SFandH]


I completely agree but let's not forget the rapid spread of the Internet and television as well. Weight gain is not only due to consuming too many bad calories but also a lack of exercise.

SFandH - 7-10-2013 at 07:02 AM

True, but the Japanese don't have an obesity problem.

greengoes - 7-10-2013 at 07:06 AM

So sad, America is losing ground everywhere as the No. 1 country in the world.

Who used to use the slogan "We are number two but try harder"?

Lee - 7-10-2013 at 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by greengoes
So sad, America is losing ground everywhere as the No. 1 country in the world.

Who used to use the slogan "We are number two but try harder"?


Sad? Was the US number 1 sometime? In what?

Don't think there will be a campaign in MX to turn things around. I don't even think they care about being fat and obese. Guess that's even sadder.

How about alcoholism in MX? Do Mexicans lead the way? Or ex-pats?

Do Number Two ?

MrBillM - 7-10-2013 at 09:32 AM

Maybe it was Ex-Lax that said it ?

"It's harder to do number two" ?

Nah.

Actually it was AVIS (relative to Hertz).

Did I mention that TWINKIES are coming SOON ?

BTW, Alcoholism is obviously more common among Gringos.

Mexicans simply ignore the concept.

And Drink their fill.

Skipjack Joe - 7-10-2013 at 11:53 AM

Good Work, Americans, the US is no longer the fattest of developed countries, Mexico is!!

It's not that we are eating better. They're eating worse. Nothing to be proud about.

Recent pbs programs make sense to me. Apparently 'normal' healthy food we used to eat is now far more expensive than what you get in the supermarket. Food prices are kept low because all livestock is now on a corn diet. The poor are more obese because it's much cheaper to get your calories through fast food and snacks than buying and preparing your own meal.

So everyone's happy. McDonalds gets your business. Corn growers can't sell it fast enough. And you - you get diabetes.

SFandH - 7-10-2013 at 12:05 PM

It's cheaper to get a bag of dried split peas or lentils or beans, chop up onions and carrots and make a pot of soup that makes enough for six meals that include some bread or crackers (about 2 dollars) than it is to buy Big Macs. Way cheaper.

I often buy apples for 50 cents a pound, bananas are usually cheap. Rice is cheap. Nope, it's not that healthy food is more expensive, it's because junk food is easy and tastes good.

[Edited on 7-10-2013 by SFandH]

vgabndo - 7-10-2013 at 12:19 PM

Careful SFand H you're making far too much sense here.

During the last election when the conservative claimed that 47% of the voters were "users and takers", I did some research. Here's the map of how people voted in 2012.

The conservatives and the lard butts live in the same states generally. Also, the highest rates of teen pregnancy, divorce, alcoholism, and absolute certainty that a monster in the sky is watching their every move. (especially in bed). We should have let them go in 1860. We'd still have a border problem though. Run-away slaves would be the new undocumented immigrants.

Do we really have to love Mississippi kind of people????? The fattest of the fat. Do we even have to show them respect???

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greengoes - 7-10-2013 at 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Lee

Sad? Was the US number 1 sometime? In what?

How about alcoholism in MX? Do Mexicans lead the way? Or ex-pats?


I believe we are still #1 in military strength, number of incarcerated citizens per capita and ex pats.

I would say the ex pats (and gringos) are heads above the crowd for alcohol consumption.

:lol::lol:

SFandH - 7-10-2013 at 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by greengoes
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee

Sad? Was the US number 1 sometime? In what?

How about alcoholism in MX? Do Mexicans lead the way? Or ex-pats?


I believe we are still #1 in military strength, number of incarcerated citizens per capita and ex pats.

I would say the ex pats (and gringos) are heads above the crowd for alcohol consumption.

:lol::lol:


Don't forget per capita gun ownership.

[Edited on 7-10-2013 by SFandH]

wessongroup - 7-10-2013 at 02:15 PM

Interesting, the seat of the confederacy appears to be an exception, but then, they are close to DC ......... just saying :biggrin:
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Originally posted by vgabndo
Careful SFand H you're making far too much sense here.

During the last election when the conservative claimed that 47% of the voters were "users and takers", I did some research. Here's the map of how people voted in 2012.

The conservatives and the lard butts live in the same states generally. Also, the highest rates of teen pregnancy, divorce, alcoholism, and absolute certainty that a monster in the sky is watching their every move. (especially in bed). We should have let them go in 1860. We'd still have a border problem though. Run-away slaves would be the new undocumented immigrants.

Do we really have to love Mississippi kind of people????? The fattest of the fat. Do we even have to show them respect???


The map did show ...... my mother, sister and her husband live in VA and they are Democratic ...... Big Time

[Edited on 7-10-2013 by wessongroup]

Bajahowodd - 7-10-2013 at 04:03 PM

I find it so sad that while the US is far behind many nations in many measurements of positives, the far right continue to to "jingo-up" the idea that we are the greatest nation on earth, bar none.

My wife's son by a previous marriage is a VP on Wall Street. With an enthusiastic straight face he has told me many times that US corporations don't give a rat's patoot about the typical American. It's all about our corporations making profit, even if it comes from foreign sales, foreign jobs. His excuse is that the poor in the US today, are still far better off than the poor of other nations.

Gave me such a warm and comfy feeling.

On some level, the great American experience is drawing to a close.

Skipjack Joe - 7-11-2013 at 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by SFandH
It's cheaper to get a bag of dried split peas or lentils or beans, chop up onions and carrots and make a pot of soup that makes enough for six meals that include some bread or crackers (about 2 dollars) than it is to buy Big Macs. Way cheaper.

I often buy apples for 50 cents a pound, bananas are usually cheap. Rice is cheap. Nope, it's not that healthy food is more expensive, it's because junk food is easy and tastes good.



You mean that the poor have different taste buds than the rich?

from the article that is the target of this thread:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/17212/20130708/mexico-o...


With over 50 percent of the population living below the poverty line, healthier diets are becoming less affordable for many, who therefore resort to consuming fried snacks, sodas, and fast food, leading to malnourishment and obesity.

SFandH - 7-11-2013 at 06:04 AM


With over 50 percent of the population living below the poverty line, healthier diets are becoming less affordable for many, who therefore resort to consuming fried snacks, sodas, and fast food, leading to malnourishment and obesity.


I know for a fact that I can make a healthy meal for less than a meal at a fast food joint - it's a fact. Rice, beans, and tortillas are cheap. As are all root vegetables and many fruits, especially when a crop is in season.

Last night I ate a bowl of rice with black beans and sweet potatoes cooked with piloncillo. $2 dollars max for the entire meal. Probably closer to one dollar.

This morning I'm going to eat a bowl of raisin bran with soy milk and a diced apple. Maybe $1.00, perhaps $1.50.

The above conclusion that poor people resort to junk food because it's a cheaper way to eat is wrong.

People eat junk food because it's easy (no preparation), tastes good (full of salt, sugar, and fat), and readily available, not because it's cheaper.

Now, if I would just cut out drinking so much beer........naw! :spingrin:

[Edited on 7-11-2013 by SFandH]

monoloco - 7-11-2013 at 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Quote:
Originally posted by SFandH
It's cheaper to get a bag of dried split peas or lentils or beans, chop up onions and carrots and make a pot of soup that makes enough for six meals that include some bread or crackers (about 2 dollars) than it is to buy Big Macs. Way cheaper.

I often buy apples for 50 cents a pound, bananas are usually cheap. Rice is cheap. Nope, it's not that healthy food is more expensive, it's because junk food is easy and tastes good.



You mean that the poor have different taste buds than the rich?

from the article that is the target of this thread:

http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/17212/20130708/mexico-o...


With over 50 percent of the population living below the poverty line, healthier diets are becoming less affordable for many, who therefore resort to consuming fried snacks, sodas, and fast food, leading to malnourishment and obesity.
I think that a lot of it may have to do with the fact that low income people tend to be less educated which makes them more susceptible to advertising campaigns and less knowledgable about nutrition. Judging from the numbers of obese children I'm seeing, Mexico is facing a serious public health crisis in the future.

Looking on the BRIGHT Side

MrBillM - 7-11-2013 at 08:12 AM

IF, it is TRUE that the problem lies with the POOR (economically and educationally), ULTIMATELY it is a situation which will be beneficial and result in culling that Herd.

So, whatever short-term medical societal costs are involved should be looked upon as a necessary investment leading to greater enlightenment.

It's ALL gonna work out and, someday, we'll be living in a healthy Vegan Paradise.

Maybe.

In the meantime, pass the Chips and Twinkies.

Rib-Eye tonight.

Skipjack Joe - 7-11-2013 at 08:59 AM

Ribeye? I see you too are doing your part for elimination.

The GOOD news is ..........

MrBillM - 7-11-2013 at 09:36 AM

That we don't have to worry about the Poor ruining their health with Rib-Eyes.

Which have been running around $10.50 LB.

Bought the latest on sale at $7.99.