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U.S. angry about release of drug lord

EnsenadaDr - 8-10-2013 at 01:42 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/us-angry-over-released-mexican-drug-lo...

desertcpl - 8-10-2013 at 07:55 AM

we should be really mad,, this is a slap in the face

terrible

EnsenadaDr - 8-10-2013 at 08:03 AM

Sounds like a sarcastic response. well I remember when that DEA agent that got killed. That was all over the news and it was a big deal at the time. Why Mexico would let this guy go free is not clear. I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on this.

desertcpl - 8-10-2013 at 08:10 AM

how was that a sarcastic response

and yes I remember very well when the agent was killed

I think its terrible that he was able to walk

EnsenadaDr - 8-10-2013 at 08:16 AM

I am sorry. You didn't say too much so I misinterpreted your response. It seems Mexico is following in Russia's footsteps...and they are supposed to be a close ally.

DENNIS - 8-10-2013 at 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Why Mexico would let this guy go free is not clear. I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on this.


"What price freedom?"

MMc - 8-10-2013 at 08:37 AM

This has nothing to do with the concept that both cartel and political party are back in charge. Of course there is no connection between cartels and parties.

EnsenadaDr - 8-10-2013 at 09:06 AM

Good point.
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Originally posted by MMc
This has nothing to do with the concept that both cartel and political party are back in charge. Of course there is no connection between cartels and parties.

monoloco - 8-10-2013 at 09:26 AM

I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. On one hand, the man who presumedly had a DEA agent killed is on the street, on the other hand, if he was released because he was improperly tried in a federal court, perhaps it is a step forward for Mexico in making sure that the rights of the accused are respected. In Mexico nothing is as it appears, people are routinely convicted on fabricated evidence and coerced confessions, so we really don't know if they even convicted the right guy in the first place, or if the evidence against him was fabricated to take heat off the politicos.

DENNIS - 8-10-2013 at 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
if he was released because he was improperly tried in a federal court, perhaps it is a step forward for Mexico in making sure that the rights of the accused are respected.


In a changing judicial system [at least they claim to be slowly changing] everything could be considered wrong as the need arises. If it wasn't wrong, it wouldn't need to be changed.
The point is, it may not have been wrong at the time, but the reason is just too convenient not to put it to good use.
Of course, a big fat gratuity would be in order. A really really big fat gratuity.

DENNIS - 8-10-2013 at 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by monoloco
so we really don't know if they even convicted the right guy in the first place, or if the evidence against him was fabricated to take heat off the politicos.



It was his mob that brutally murdered Camarena. That kinda implicates him.
The US cops on a field trip to Mexico snatched the doc who kept Camarena alive for extended torture sessions, and brought him back to the states. I'm sure they put the heat to his balls for the full story before they had to turn him loose.

There was never any doubt as to Caro's guilt.

EnsenadaDr - 8-10-2013 at 09:50 AM

Well it's a little late after 28 years to decide to do right by the accused, it's not like they found the DNA of another person or anything. I think this Edward Snowden thing had something to do with it indirectly, Mexico had issued a statement a few weeks demanding they know the scope and depth of the spying on Mexico.
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Originally posted by monoloco
I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing. On one hand, the man who presumedly had a DEA agent killed is on the street, on the other hand, if he was released because he was improperly tried in a federal court, perhaps it is a step forward for Mexico in making sure that the rights of the accused are respected. In Mexico nothing is as it appears, people are routinely convicted on fabricated evidence and coerced confessions, so we really don't know if they even convicted the right guy in the first place, or if the evidence against him was fabricated to take heat off the politicos.

DENNIS - 8-10-2013 at 09:58 AM

The man started the cartel that morphed into the Sinaloa Cartel. Chapo Guzman, of the Forbes multi-billionaire list, is showing his loyalty, of course, with the stipulation that Quintero spend the rest of his days enjoying a wealthy inactive retirement.

dennis-this one

bajadave1 - 8-11-2013 at 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by DENNIS
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Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Why Mexico would let this guy go free is not clear. I was wondering if anyone else had ideas on this.


"What price freedom?"

DENNIS - 8-11-2013 at 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by bajadave1
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Originally posted by DENNIS

"What price freedom?"


dennis-this one




Thanks Dave. Now I remember.

J.P. - 8-11-2013 at 09:31 AM

In the past the U.S. has offered millions in reward and then tried and convicted Drug Kingpin's only to see them on the streets a couple years later. Why should this case be different.

DENNIS - 8-11-2013 at 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by J.P.
In the past the U.S. has offered millions in reward and then tried and convicted Drug Kingpin's only to see them on the streets a couple years later. Why should this case be different.



Because he butchered a cop.