BajaNomad - San Javier Road (update)

San Javier Road (update)

BajaNomad - 8-31-2013 at 01:14 PM

Had these reports earlier this week:

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Originally posted by BajaNomad
From Mike Younghusband:

"The road to San Javier is destroyed. (second pic) Nothing can get through. Heavy equip is parked close to the area with not much in the way of options."

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Originally posted by BajaNomad
From the Juliette thread:

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Originally posted by tehag
Ivo did this on Saturday/Sunday last. I'm guessing it will be closed for a while.

This just in from Mike Younghusband:

" 'A road runs through it'. They punched a road through to San Javier late Friday. The residents were only cut off for 4 days, all is well. Many wash outs and road is quite dangerous. Another rain will send it back into oblivion."

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bufeo - 8-31-2013 at 01:44 PM

All things considered, that's pretty impressive 'recovery' time.

Allen R

Barry A. - 8-31-2013 at 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by bufeo
All things considered, that's pretty impressive 'recovery' time.

Allen R

I'll say-------downright amazing!!!!

Barry

DianaT - 8-31-2013 at 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Barry A.

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Originally posted by bufeo
All things considered, that's pretty impressive 'recovery' time.

Allen R

I'll say-------downright amazing!!!!

Barry

Amazing and fantastic that the people are no longer isolated -- good news indeed.

Mulegena - 8-31-2013 at 05:37 PM

a-Baja-mazin'!

Islandbuilder - 8-31-2013 at 07:26 PM

It looks safer than it was before the storm!

Frank - 8-31-2013 at 10:54 PM

Hard to believe its the same road that I drove in June. Thanks for the update and photos.

Great that they could do this.

John M - 9-1-2013 at 05:26 AM

Could you imagine if Cal Trans were in charge of this?

John M

Barry A. - 9-1-2013 at 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by John M
Could you imagine if Cal Trans were in charge of this?

John M

Back in '77 I remember it took CalTrans well over a year to rebuild I-5 thru the San Diego mountains eastern escarpment after Tropical Storm Kathleen, but they did have a rough detour done pertty quickly, but certainly not THIS quickly--------and I-5 was a major highway. I applaud the Mexico response to this situation west of Loreto.

Barry

tripledigitken - 9-1-2013 at 09:50 AM

Barry,

You do mean I-8, Carrizo, don't you? That reconstruction involved bridges as well as massive rock excavation and embankment. I don't remember the length of construction but it was a massive project.

Every time I look at the bridge failures in Baja, almost everyone is a failure at the embankments. Mexico engineers do not protect the bridge embankments from scour, with either concrete or rip/rap. In most cases those applications would have spared the bridge damage. But that's another thread..........

Ken

Barry A. - 9-1-2013 at 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by tripledigitken
Barry,

You do mean I-8, Carrizo, don't you? That reconstruction involved bridges as well as massive rock excavation and embankment. I don't remember the length of construction but it was a massive project.

Every time I look at the bridge failures in Baja, almost everyone is a failure at the embankments. Mexico engineers do not protect the bridge embankments from scour, with either concrete or rip/rap. In most cases those applications would have spared the bridge damage. But that's another thread..........

Ken

Ooops, you are right, Ken. Thanks for the correction----I-8 yes. Agree with what you say here completely------still, the opening of the road in Mexico was pretty miraculous and unusual when thinking of the past, I think. CalTrans DOES have much stricter standards, of course.

How many remember the many bridges left standing in Baja after a storm without any way to get on them? Ken is absolutely right. The one just south of El Rosario is the classic one, and the bridges just south of San Quintin, also.

Barry

BajaBlanca - 9-1-2013 at 10:53 AM

Very speedy in clearing a way through. A maaaaa zing. No mañana that's for sure!

Sweetwater - 9-1-2013 at 12:13 PM

Awesome post BajaNomad, thanks.

Do you have any idea how much of the paved section was lost and how did the road running west towards the Pacific look after this last set of storms. I have gone both directions, east to west and west to east on my motos and I really like the journey. I do know there are quite a few wash crossings to the west of San Javier as well as many ranchos. I wonder how access across the peninsula via this route is.....thanks again, always with the dangling participle..... :tumble:

wessongroup - 9-1-2013 at 01:47 PM

[img]http://www.afntijuana.info/timthumb.php?src=http://www.afnbc.com/imagenes/lluvias_1913.jpg&w=570[/img]

ENSENADA BC 1 DE SEPTIEMBRE DE 2013 (AFN).- La Secretaría de Comunicaciones y Transportes (SCT) delegación Baja California, dio a conocer que, por las intensas lluvias registradas en el sur del municipio de Ensenada, se encuentra suspendido el tránsito vehicular por la carretera Transpeninsular, para quienes se dirigen al Sur de la entidad y hacia Baja California Sur.

Los problemas en la red carretera se ubican en el tramo de los vados, en los kilómetros 155.7 a la altura de San Agustín y en el 180.3 de Cataviña, del tramo Lázaro Cárdenas a Punta Prieta, donde se presentan escurrimientos con tirantes superiores a 1.50 metros y no existe posibilidad de usar rutas alternas.

El tránsito está suspendido desde las 18:00 horas del sábado, el vado es una losa de concreto y se espera que los daños solo sean depósito de azolves, por lo que en el sitio se encuentra el superintendente del tramo a la espera de que las condiciones mejoren y se pueda restablecer el tránsito, informó la SCT vía comunicado.

http://www.afntijuana.info/informacion_general/20674_suspend...

ENSENADA BC , September 1, 2013 - The Secretary of Communications and Transportation in Baja California reported that due to the intense rains south of Ensenada, transit is suspended on the Transpeninsular Highway for those heading southbound ftpm the state to Baja California Sur.

The problems with the highway network are located in the stretch of washes at kilometers 155.7, at San Agustín and at 180.3 in Cataviña, on the stretch between Lázaro Cárdenas and Punta Prieta, where there are pools of water more than 5 feet deep and there are not alternative routes.

Traffic is suspended from 6PM Saturday. The wash is a concrete slab and it is hoped the damage is only silt deposits. The supervisor of the area is hoping that the conditions improve and they can reestablish traffic flows, reported the Secretary via a communique.

woody with a view - 9-1-2013 at 01:51 PM

WOW!