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Lien Release in Spanish?

CortezBlue - 9-3-2013 at 04:22 PM

I am about to finish up my casita add on. I am about to pay him his final payment. I want to see if there is any kind of release available that is in spanish?

Thanks, any ideas would be appreciated

DENNIS - 9-3-2013 at 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by CortezBlue
I am about to finish up my casita add on. I am about to pay him his final payment. I want to see if there is any kind of release available that is in spanish?

Thanks, any ideas would be appreciated



Who are you concerned about? Who's "him?"

CortezBlue - 9-3-2013 at 08:11 PM

My contractor.

I want to make sure that I have a release that shows:

1. I have paid him in full

2. That he was responsible for all/any taxes, Social Security, building permits, etc.

3. That he has paid his workers, sub contractors etc.


I know that this is probably a waste of time, but I have always had lien releases signed by any of my workers here in the states when I built my other homes.

JAG - 9-3-2013 at 08:29 PM

Having done quite a bit of work down here, I have never asked for a release.
If he didn't pay his workers you would know within a couple of days, besides they are his employees, not yours. They cant lien your property.
No building permit. Nobody cares once its finished.

DENNIS - 9-4-2013 at 07:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
My contractor.

I want to make sure that I have a release that shows:

1. I have paid him in full

2. That he was responsible for all/any taxes, Social Security, building permits, etc.

3. That he has paid his workers, sub contractors etc.


I know that this is probably a waste of time, but I have always had lien releases signed by any of my workers here in the states when I built my other homes.



Since you are ultimately responsible for everything you mentioned above, I'd make sure he did his part before paying him off. If he didn't, you will, with heavy penalties.

Then, pay him off with a witnessed receipt or a check. I think that's the way I would do it.

release?

akshadow - 9-4-2013 at 09:21 AM

Maybe what you really need is signed receipt from the federal insurance office (sort of like social security) that the contractor has paid all fees and taxes related to your project. I believe they can come back to you for payment regardless of what your contractor certified and contractor is not responsible for these fees.
Quote:
Originally posted by CortezBlue
My contractor.

I want to make sure that I have a release that shows:

1. I have paid him in full

2. That he was responsible for all/any taxes, Social Security, building permits, etc.

3. That he has paid his workers, sub contractors etc.


I know that this is probably a waste of time, but I have always had lien releases signed by any of my workers here in the states when I built my other homes.

monoloco - 9-4-2013 at 09:43 AM

akshadow is correct, it is your responsibility to make sure all the payroll taxes and seguros were paid on his workers. Mexican contractors are notoriously lax about this because it's more money in their pocket that they know will come back on you, not them.

monoloco - 9-4-2013 at 09:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JAG
Having done quite a bit of work down here, I have never asked for a release.
If he didn't pay his workers you would know within a couple of days, besides they are his employees, not yours. They cant lien your property.
No building permit. Nobody cares once its finished.
This is not true, they can come back on you for EVERYTHING, I know people who they have come back on for unpaid seguros, no environmental impact statements, and no building permits, years after the fact. It's a good idea to make sure everything was done properly before you make the final payment because you will have exactly ZERO leverage when some government agency shows up at the door later and has you over a barrel.

Osprey - 9-4-2013 at 10:44 AM

Get documentation of payment from AFORE, INFONAVIT, IMSS. Most places Mexican Social Security offices can check for you that the other two have been paid, help you get the papers.

Years after my gringo pal's house here was finished, he had to go to IMSS to pay a bill in the thousands of dollars for the work his contractor did. We took to the meeting the actual contractor/worker for whom the charges had carried forward to attest to, with his signature and sworn statement, the day, years ago, that ended his contract with my pal. Did not save a dime of the penalty. In Mexico think: GOTTA HAVE THE PAPERS.

Blue, for a rich, smart guy with Baja experience, I'm wondering where your mind must have been wandering.