lobsters

they have to be there. john has seen one and a very credible source claims to have bagged em at the entrance to williard. now coco (and we all know how nomads hang onto coco's every word) tells me lobster are as far north as ensenada blanca. we did hoop the area around papa's for nada, like a desert out there.
but there must be SOME!

Okay, I went to the books... and behold, an actual Baja Lobster Map! Three cheers for Mike McMahan! ('There It Is: Baja!', 1973). Looks like the upper range is just south of L.A. Bay... on his map



Mike McMahan may be most famous for his Baja Wall Maps from the 1960's to 1980's...

Pescador, why would they be more difficult to trap? Smarter set of bugs in the SOC?

Mike (McMahan) has several pages on lobsters, and so I will suggest getting the book... It was first published as a hardback then republished 10 years later as a paperback, with a different title! Baja Judy may have the paper back? Here are two pages on lobsters, and then the two different covers for McMahan's GREAT book>>>





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1983:



Some will recall the cool early 1950's video of 4 guys driving down Baja hunting and fishing? Mike McMahan was one of those guys... Here is the 1953 book they wrote about that adventure:



Mike McMahan is also famous for his discoveries on Malarrimo Beach...





Including the more dangerous kind!:

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Originally posted by BajaParrothead Quote: Originally posted by Pescador Cortez lobsters do not trap or hoop and most are either netted or gigged or otherwise collected by divers. Pescador, why would they be more difficult to trap? Smarter set of bugs in the SOC?

thxs

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Originally posted by Pescador Quote: Originally posted by BajaParrothead Quote: Originally posted by Pescador Cortez lobsters do not trap or hoop and most are either netted or gigged or otherwise collected by divers. Pescador, why would they be more difficult to trap? Smarter set of bugs in the SOC? On the Cortez side we have two types of rock lobsters. First is the Slipper lobster which is kind of an ugly creature and much different than a spiny. Wikipedia has a good picture. Second is the spiny which has slightly different coloration than the spiny lobster found on the Pacific side. The spiny lobsters we have on the Cortez side just do not come in the traps. Some speculate that they eat different things and perhaps do not feed on the carrion or dead fish on the ocean floor. It is common knowledge that the spinys on the Pacific side are trapped and that is the main method of harvest. We have had fishermen from the other side come over, set traps in known areas, but they don't get any. One of the stories floating around at Punta Chivato was that the spinies on the Cortez side are vegetarian. I don't believe that but something is different. Almost all of the lobster sold on the Cortez side comes from nets that are set for other fish and they happen to get them or from divers. Most divers report they prefer to go at night. They either use a Hawaiin sling or a small spear gun with a single rubber. Like everything else that has any monetary value, lobsters are in steep decline and the vendors keep getting smaller lobsters all the time.

Here's a pic of a few recent Bahia de Los Angeles bugs that a friend sent me.

I would have to say the answer is "yes". mike mcmahan's map jives with coco's story, putting lobster as far north as ensenada blanca. we know there's lobster in LA bay. we have eye witness to seeing bugs in gonzaga. water too warm? lobster are regularly taken waaay up at rocky point.
im certain if you were to soak hoops long enough around the gonzaga area you see some bugs, of course that brings up an even bigger problem!