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Rancho Nuevo

Ateo - 10-29-2013 at 01:17 PM

Anyone know the road conditions into the Rancho Nuevo York (Rancho Nuevo - in the Almanac) area northeast of El Rosario/East of San Quintin????

[Edited on 10-30-2013 by Ateo]

TMW - 10-29-2013 at 05:47 PM

What race mile is it near.

Ateo - 10-29-2013 at 06:03 PM

You are a wizard TW. I was just U2U'ing you when I saw you responded to this thread! Race Mile 605. It's pit # 14 for Baja Pits. My Almanac just lists "Rancho Nuevo" so I'm guessing that's the one. It's at the base of the San Pedro Martir.

Ateo - 10-29-2013 at 06:05 PM

woody with a view - 10-29-2013 at 07:02 PM

i'm guessing you'll be the first!

Ateo - 10-29-2013 at 07:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
i'm guessing you'll be the first!


Holy crap yeah. Haven't seen many trip reports from this area. Google Earth shows about 400 roads -- all going different directions and detouring every few miles. Gonna have to turn on my Zen Baja Road Choosing Capabilities.

[Edited on 10-30-2013 by Ateo]

TMW - 10-30-2013 at 11:04 AM

Here is a trip report I did New Years for the area to the west of the ranch.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=64875

Here are the Google Earth pictures of the access roads starting at Hwy 1. You'll probably go in at KM24.




The second Jct with the white line going south is the 2007 race course. Before getting to it is a down hill section with a deep rut pick your line carefully, maybe use a spotter. In my smaller Tacoma I went left up and around it. Between the 07 course Jct and the next Jct you'll drop into a wash for about a mile.




I took the blue line north so I have not been on the red section from there on.




This shows the access roads to RM605. It looks like when you get ready to leave just follow the race course north to the first red Jct then follow the red line out and back to where you came in from Hwy 1.




Hope this helps.

Mexitron - 10-30-2013 at 04:36 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Ateo
Quote:
Originally posted by woody with a view
i'm guessing you'll be the first!


Holy crap yeah. Haven't seen many trip reports from this area. Google Earth shows about 400 roads -- all going different directions and detouring every few miles. Gonna have to turn on my Zen Baja Road Choosing Capabilities.

[Edited on 10-30-2013 by Ateo]


lots of new roads from the yucca harvesters, along with ranchers, etc.

Ateo - 10-30-2013 at 04:47 PM

Thanks for commenting Mexitron. I hope it doesn't rain.

TW: Just like to give you a public "Thanks" for all the time you spent discussing this with me.

TMW - 11-1-2013 at 10:16 AM

Here are Google Earth pictures of the race course from Hwy 1 to RM610.







Note the yellow rd to the right before RM605. There is a corral and maybe a ranch house, it maybe Ranch Nuevo, hard to see the bldgs on GE. The corrdinates for R. Nuevo in the almanac is way off as compared to GE.

Timo1 - 11-1-2013 at 10:19 AM

When is the B1000 ???

TMW - 11-1-2013 at 10:52 AM

Nov. 14-17. Starts and ends in Ensenada. Bikes start Thursday Nov. 14 at 11pm. Cars/trucks start Friday Nov. 15 at 9am. Start and finish line is in front of the Riviera del Pacifico Cultural Center. Some call it the Convention Center. Large white building to the left before the light at hotel Corona.

wessongroup - 11-1-2013 at 11:25 AM

Something about "races" ... still enjoy ... keep it on the dirt .. :):)

[Edited on 11-2-2013 by wessongroup]

David K - 11-1-2013 at 04:36 PM

Well... there is a Rancho Nuevo and a Rancho Nueva York... two different places but both in the sierra foothills east of Hwy. 1.

Looks like the Baja Pits poster map has 'York' added, wrong. :rolleyes:

Rancho Nuevo is just west , on the other side of the sierra from Rancho Matomi.

Rancho Nueva York is east of Colonia V. Guerrero.

The 1000 course goes to each or close to each...

TW, you might have La Suerte labeled as Nuevo... hard to compare the scales of GE and the Almanac.

Ateo - 11-1-2013 at 04:47 PM

Yeah, I see no "York" on the Baja Almanac in that area. Thanks for all the help Nomads.

David K - 11-1-2013 at 05:58 PM

Great region... here is a map from my 2005 trip near there:




bajalou made this to show it also:




Trip Road Log (in miles) and 21 GPS waypoints (Map Datum NAD27)

0.0 Leave Hwy. 1 (28.5 mi. from El Rosario Pemex) at cafe just past Km. 103, head north. 30°03.81', 115°20.87'
2.5 Fork, go left
3.6 El Sauzalito ruins on left at 30°05.89', 115°21.76'
4.9 Cross San Juan de Dios river 30°06.83', 115°21.28'
5.2 Fork, go right (left goes back to El Rosario via La Vibora grade) 30°07.04', 115°21.33'
5.4 Fork, go left (right goes to San Juan de Dios) 30°07.22', 115°21.42'
11.7 Fork, go right (left goes to Rancho Los Martires)
13.5 Cross Arroyo Los Matires/ Arroyo Grande 30°12.37', 115°26.33'
13.7 Road in from left to Rancho Los Martires. Rancho San Antonio is passed about five miles ahead
21.3 Fork just north of Arroyo El Portezuelo crossing, go left (right goes to San Miguel and La Suerte) 30°18.42', 115°42.28'
26.1 Fork, go left (right goes to ranch). Only 4WD beyond here.
27.8 Bulldozed switchback grade to ridge top 30°22.26', 115°29.21'
31.9 Fork, go left (right for La Suerte) 30°24.79', 115°29.21'
32.6 Jcn. with old El Socorro to La Suerte road, turn left 30°25.18', 115°29.72'
33.2 Jcn. with road north to El Agua Escondida 30°24.97', 115°30.27'. A second road north is at 30°24.28', 115°31.51'
37.0 'Petroglyph Park' 30°24.19', 115°33.38'
39.2 Fork, go left (right goes 0.9 mi. to blue palms and beyond) 30°23.58', 115°35.01'
41.2 Jcn. road south to El Canuto 30°22.51', 115°36.24'
43.4 El Cipres (abandoned ranch) 30°22.10', 115°37.98'
49.4 Fork, go left (right to Nuevo Odisea) 30°21.56', 115°42.80'
54.8 Jcn., road in from left to Tres Palmas 30°19.96', 115°46.82'
54.9 Old road to north (to Nuevo Odisea) 30°19.94', 115°46.85'
55.5 Join road along south side of river valley, turn right 30°19.66', 115°47.25'
57.1 Hwy. 1 near El Socorro (Km. 24-25). El Rosario is 20.0 mi. south. 30°19.25', 115°48.77'

TMW - 11-1-2013 at 07:01 PM

Rancho La Suerte is about 4 miles due east of RM 605 on GE at
30-33.540x115-18.220. Ranch Nuevo in the Almanac is at 30-28.xxX115-17.xx. The Ranch at RM605 is at 30-34.160x115-23.630.

TMW - 11-1-2013 at 07:05 PM

I don't know if the names of some places on Google Earth are accurate, I take them with a grain of salt unless I know for sure. I do know that the roads and routes in the almanac are not always accurate as to location and I use it as a reference only, it may or may not be accurate.

David K - 11-1-2013 at 11:32 PM

Yup, it isn't easy... and I said "might" as to Nuevo vs. Suerta... Just not sure at a glance. I am sure Jon will find his pit and have a blast. I wish I was going!!