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Residente permanente

BajaBlanca - 10-31-2013 at 07:20 PM

We went to santa rosalia today and turned in Les's paperwork, photos, etc. and we were told he will be called back on a month.

Should we hold our breath?!

It was more expensive this year, $4800 in fees and $1600
for letters to be written...8 of them!

gnukid - 10-31-2013 at 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
We went to santa rosalia today and turned in Les's paperwork, photos, etc. and we were told he will be called back on a month.

Should we hold our breath?!

It was more expensive this year, $4800 in fees and $1600
for letters to be written...8 of them!

Never heard of paying for 8 letters to go to residente permanente, most INM offices have sample letters that you can simply add your name to or rewrite on your computer if you ask-they don't offer them unless you ask. Perhaps you had an expiditer write these for you and you paid them by personal agreement becuase the INM office can not accept money to help with letters. There are more letters for those with work permission, declaration of # employees, RFC, etc...

cost

akshadow - 10-31-2013 at 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca

It was more expensive this year, $4800 in fees and $1600
for letters to be written...8 of them!

US dollars or Pesos?

Mula - 11-1-2013 at 07:00 AM

Pesos.

Russ - 11-1-2013 at 07:21 AM

I was going to up date my inmigrado to the Residente permanente but since I really don't have to at this time I'm not dealing with Santa Rosalia. That was the whole purpose of getting inmagrado. Once Les has the papers he'll be set and not have to deal with them again. It'll be their last chance to get some of your money :biggrin:

DENNIS - 11-1-2013 at 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by Russ
I was going to up date my inmigrado to the Residente permanente

Russ...why are you doing that? Has anyone official said it's a requirement? I don't know anyone up here who has changed...or been told to make the change.

redmesa - 11-1-2013 at 08:01 AM

Only took me 8 months.
:rolleyes:

Russ - 11-1-2013 at 08:27 AM

Dennis, "I WAS going to update". That would only be to get the card instead of the book. It would cost a bundle to do that and then having to deal with Santa Rosalia convinced me to just keep the book.

DENNIS - 11-1-2013 at 08:30 AM

Sounds like Sta. Rosalia has taken over on difficulty where Ensenada left off. What a shame.

Russ - 11-1-2013 at 09:14 AM

For Santa Rosalia being difficult is a tradition and they don't seem to want to break it. After all their only job is to administer immigration papers and work permits to gringos, why make it easy?

gnukid - 11-1-2013 at 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Russ
For Santa Rosalia being difficult is a tradition and they don't seem to want to break it. After all their only job is to administer immigration papers and work permits to gringos, why make it easy?

INM agents have a hard time identifying or sympathizing with gringos since it's a world apart. The agents have little apparent room to be creative so they struggle within those confines for creativity... The gringos coming in appear to be money trees that dispense money. In that regard, all the nonsense is just a creative expression an abusive controlling dysfunctional relationship and PR is like a liberating breakup.

gnukid - 11-1-2013 at 10:09 AM

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$1000 MN application fee
$3800 MN PR fee
=~$375 US one time fee to never have to return to INM

monoloco - 11-1-2013 at 10:15 AM

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Bureaucrats are the same all over the world, increasing the complexity of government necessitates hiring more bureaucrats, enabling the existing bureaucrats to move up the ladder. Streamlining government procedures are a zero sum game for them.

greengoes - 11-1-2013 at 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by Russ
........ After all their only job is to administer immigration papers and work permits to gringos.......

They have many more duties than giving Gringos their papers. I can't list them but in my time spent there I saw many Mexicanos taking care of their business there. And they weren't 'facilitators' walking Gringo papers through.

Hook - 11-1-2013 at 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by gnukid

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$1000 MN application fee
$3800 MN PR fee
=~$375 US one time fee to never have to return to INM

Or, until they changes the rules AGAIN.............whichever comes sooner.

Actually, we have been told by INM agents that you will have to get a new one in 10 years to update your photo.

INM hearsay.................right up there in credibility with the National Tattler.

gnukid, I am so with you!

Howard - 11-1-2013 at 10:21 AM

I forgot what I paid, but it sounded in the range what gnukid paid and is worth every centavo and more not to be bothered every frickin year with them. It's way too time consuming, frustrating and every year shell out money and now there is an option to avoid all of that. I think it took less visits to La Migra for this process than the yearly FM2@ and FM3 visits. Just think, no more visits to get your odd amount of photo's taken, no more visits to the bank, etc.
I used a facilitator for $200 U.S. and he took care of everything. Best $ I ever spent. I think the whole process took around 2 months and that was last May.

Now, in my opinion, Mexico will figure out that they get no more $ each year from us and will change the rules down the road to get more revenue but that is solely my opinion.

toneart - 11-1-2013 at 11:10 AM

Blanca, Les-

You will need lots of patience. Give it plenty of time. :lol:

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BajaBlanca - 11-1-2013 at 11:23 AM

I actuallynthought that santa rosalia was painless. They copied docs for us, they provided the. Ltters and there was minimum paperwork from our part:

No bank statements as in the past
No proof of paying fidecomiso as in the past
Copy passport
Copy of our biz docs
Provide proof we had biz taxes up to date
We gave photos we already had, 2 front and 2 side shots
They did the letters for us

Bingo. We did spend more than 30 minutes total.

Not complicated and worth every penny, although Les fumed a while since he knew it was going into their pockets. Heck, as a Brazilian I take this with a smile! The hardest was the very first year til they realized I just wanted in and out and to pay up.

MitchMan - 11-2-2013 at 10:52 AM

I always thought that getting MExican visas was a pain in the neck, especially since the rules keep changing almost every year. I initially thought that it might have had something to do with "pay back" for all the bad press related to USA deportations of undocumented Mexicans and all the noise and hate aimed particularly at Mexican undocumented people together with the recent anti immigration sentiment and legislation in the USA in recent year.

Then, I recently saw a documentary on what it takes to become a legal citizen here in the USA and the amount of money and "actual" time it takes. By comparison, being a US citizen and getting either a Residente Permanente visa or even Mexican citizenship is a cake walk.

aguachico - 11-2-2013 at 12:31 PM

Intersting Blanca as I have never seen INM agents accept payment. My FMM's , FM3's and FMT have always handled $$$ thru the bank.

So far the INM agents have been equal to a CA DMV agent. Their job sucks and is boring, but they have been pleasant. I see more Chinese than any other race in the TJ INM.

Only problem I had with INM was my fault. I didn't fully understand what she said and left without submitting all the paper work. An extra trip into Centro is no problem as I love hanging in Centro.