BajaNomad

Permanent Residency Requirement

schwlind - 11-6-2013 at 06:33 AM

I was just informed by a friend that lives in Baja (most of the time) that our accountant has just informed him that we must provide 6 months of bank statements and $300 each to have them translated in order to process our applications for permanent residency.

This sounds like BS to me because we both have Mexican corporations and have never been required to provide this before.

Please let me know if you have experienced this as well or have heard of this requirement. This is being processed in Ensenada.

Thanks!

monoloco - 11-6-2013 at 06:49 AM

We had to submit 6 months of bank statements, but no translation was required. Why would something that is pretty much all numbers need to be translated?

[Edited on 11-6-2013 by monoloco]

schwlind - 11-6-2013 at 06:50 AM

Do you also have a MX corporation?

monoloco - 11-6-2013 at 06:53 AM

No corporation here. Don't you use a Mexican bank account for your Mexican corporation?

Ensenada

bajaguy - 11-6-2013 at 07:27 AM

Nope, as of last April, however things at INM change all the time

Who is your agent???

schwlind - 11-6-2013 at 08:09 AM

Our accountant, Serafin Sanchez, in Ensenada has been handling our Immigration matters for about 4 years now.

CortezBlue - 11-6-2013 at 08:17 AM

We did ours late last year and they required bank statements, however, before we submitted everything, they changed it and we did not need financial info.

dtbushpilot - 11-6-2013 at 08:38 AM

We have been asked for the most ridiculous things to get permanent resident status in La Paz. According to our facilitator there is a new sheriff in town and things are going to be different from now on. It doesn't look like we will be able to get it, you won't believe it when I tell "the rest of the story". We are in the final chapter of this frustrating balogna now, I'll post the full detains as soon as we finish this tap dance.....dt

BajaBlanca - 11-6-2013 at 09:50 AM

I suggest everyone move to Bahia Asuncion or La Bocana and use the Santa Rosalia office. Stay with Shari or us and use our addresses til you get the paperwork done.

Seriously..

DENNIS - 11-6-2013 at 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by BajaBlanca
use the Santa Rosalia office.



Really??? From what I see here, people are going out of their way to avoid the SR office.

capitolkat - 11-6-2013 at 10:31 AM

La Paz-- We provided the 6 months of bank statements, waited about a month, got our finger prints taken, waited another two weeks and went in a picked up the RP. No problems, This was in June- July, and no translation required. Couldn't have been more smooth.

Mula - 11-6-2013 at 10:45 AM

When we changed INM locations, we had to submit a letter of intent to change first a month in advance.

We only submitted 6 months of bank statements and no translation - in LaPaz.

Wally - 11-6-2013 at 12:44 PM

WE have a MX corporation. We were not required to provided any financial documentation other than the corporation document.

msteve1014 - 11-6-2013 at 03:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by BajaBlanca
I suggest everyone move to Bahia Asuncion or La Bocana and use the Santa Rosalia office. Stay with Shari or us and use our addresses til you get the paperwork done.

Seriously..


I thought the people in Asuncion had to go to G.N. The line is somewhere between the two towns....... Shari ?

schwlind - 11-7-2013 at 10:14 AM

Thanks to everyone who has responded thus far... Jerry thinks we're getting ripped off on the translation fee.... I sadly agree!

rhintransit - 11-8-2013 at 10:01 AM

agree on rip off translation fee...that's not INM asking for the fee is it? if so, get a lawyer or facilitator and have him/her handle it. if not, get another facilitator and/or DIY. it's pretty simple. depending on where you live. and what your 'basis' for asking for PR is.

bajaguy - 11-8-2013 at 10:18 AM

If you want to have a great time at INM, use Google Translate for your documents :lol:

BajaBlanca - 11-8-2013 at 10:22 AM

we have a corporation and all we had to provide was the corporation papers and proof that we are paid up on taxes.

Do Asuncionences go to G Negro? That would be the first time I heard that.

I am not sure why they are running away, Dennis. The first year was difficult until I made it clear that we wanted them to handle the paperwork (copies,letters blablabla). Either you pay a facilitator or you pay Enrique. I preferred not to get the run around and just pay up.

Nowadays, it could not be easier. I call, ask what we need and then an hour after we arrive, submit papers, pay at bank, eat lunch, we are out of there for another year. Well, sometimes Enrique brings the final approval to us (at a cost) or Les returns to pick it up.

When in Rome... or Santa Rosalia

Mulegena - 11-8-2013 at 11:59 AM

... we do as Enrique says to do.
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Originally posted by BajaBlanca

I am not sure why they are running away, Dennis. The first year was difficult until I made it clear that we wanted them to handle the paperwork (copies,letters blablabla). Either you pay a facilitator or you pay Enrique. I preferred not to get the run around and just pay up.

Nowadays, it could not be easier. I call, ask what we need and then an hour after we arrive, submit papers, pay at bank, eat lunch, we are out of there for another year. Well, sometimes Enrique brings the final approval to us (at a cost) or Les returns to pick it up.


Enrique has set himself up as the in-office facilitator by default-- we're not getting anything done unless we play by the rules, and he makes up the rules. Ok, that's the way it is. I understand this. I just wish he'd smile once in awhile.

and no, he doesn't charge an exorbitant fee like $300USD.
Last year it was $XXXPesos per person and I did all the paperwork.

Se le vie!


[Edited on 11-8-2013 by Mulegena]

Whale-ista - 11-8-2013 at 12:54 PM

Cancel request- rcvd info via u2u info. Didn't mean to hijack.

Thanks Mulagena for helping me understand the process. (I'm still a few years away from retirement, and I realize this could change.)

[Edited on 11-8-2013 by Whale-ista]

bajachris - 2-4-2014 at 10:09 AM

We are getting our permanent residency cards. It's been several months now. Anyone else having issues getting this final card? Every other year has gone smoothly, but this final year. Serafin (accountant) asked for bank statements, but we said why do you need to translate numbers?

gnukid - 2-4-2014 at 10:51 AM

With a corporation they want to ask for monthly income to compare to other information about you to see if you are properly declaring income earned while in Baja. They will proceed to question the income later on and compare to facturas, cc records etc. They are going to find more tax income from rich people, so the request for income statements is just the first step in the process. Generally, there are various methods to qualify to RP status, one method is by income. Corp has little to do with you qualifying. You could also qualify without income if you were in the 4 year stage of FM2 or FM3.

Translation is standard on any document though of course it really shouldn't aplly to bank statements which are all numbers. Be careful.

moonraker1 - 2-4-2014 at 11:59 AM

Questions to Nomads. A friend tells me that if I obtain Immigrante Status, that I cannot have my US registered vehicles to include the boat. That my US Income could also become liable for Mexican Income Tax. So are all who obtain Immigrante Status importing their vehicles? Also why would anyone recommend the immigration office in Santa Rosalia? I guess if you like paying the mordida, it is the place to go. I mistakenly allowed my FM3 to lapse by about 20 days and it cost me more than 7000 pesos and they claimed because of a computer problem that I had to pay them, not thru the bank. Are you taxed on your US Income?

DENNIS - 2-4-2014 at 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by moonraker1
Are you taxed on your US Income?


No.

DavidE - 2-4-2014 at 12:43 PM

Best to refresh info for NOW not last month or day before yesterday. As I griped before...

THINGS ARE CHANGING

And they are changing FAST

In one @#$%^&! breath Hacienda said there will be NO NEW TAXES for the next 3 years, then they slap incredibly draconian fees onto legally importing a brand new motor vehicle into Mexico (doesn't sound serious until a person learns the new law just about bans importation of modified vehicles for disabled drivers).

IMHO do not screw around. Do not take ANYONE'S word-for-it. Call INM and ask them for guidance. A Mexican friend can do this if your Spanish is not up to par. ABOGADOS have this teeny flaw in which they spout a bunch of BS and then come back and say. "Oh lo siento mucho but the law has changed. So has my fee". In rural México it's referred to as "Milking The Cow".

I pasted my "moniker" on the left side of the forum for a reason. It's so true it makes my side hurt.

CortezBlue - 2-4-2014 at 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by bajachris
We are getting our permanent residency cards. It's been several months now. Anyone else having issues getting this final card? Every other year has gone smoothly, but this final year. Serafin (accountant) asked for bank statements, but we said why do you need to translate numbers?


It took us a while. We applied at the end of 2012 and I think we got the cards in May or June

tecatero - 2-5-2014 at 07:29 AM

got mine last week,,,,,,,never asked for bank info. Only when I started FM3 process years ago did they ask,,,,,,,,went easy for permanent, however it did seem to take an extra couple months to get approval

JAG - 2-5-2014 at 08:53 AM

We applied last year in the Rosarito office and were required to show the 6 months of translated bank statements. I had a long conversation with the new office mgr but she wouldn't give in.
What a waste of money.

Udo - 2-5-2014 at 10:16 AM

We'll compare notes, Dave.
Even our Mexican attorney called me from La Paz to ask how we got things accomplished so smoothly.

I was going to tell you how e got things accomplished in an e-mail, but I don't have your e-mail address.
Quote:
Originally posted by dtbushpilot
We have been asked for the most ridiculous things to get permanent resident status in La Paz. According to our facilitator there is a new sheriff in town and things are going to be different from now on. It doesn't look like we will be able to get it, you won't believe it when I tell "the rest of the story". We are in the final chapter of this frustrating balogna now, I'll post the full detains as soon as we finish this tap dance.....dt

bajaguy - 2-5-2014 at 10:34 AM

Udo....do you have your permanent status???
Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
We'll compare notes, Dave.
Even our Mexican attorney called me from La Paz to ask how we got things accomplished so smoothly.

I was going to tell you how e got things accomplished in an e-mail, but I don't have your e-mail address.

BajaBlanca - 2-5-2014 at 11:17 AM

Well, Les just called to say he passed his Spanish conversation test and he is now 4 months away from becoming a true Mexicano! We will be having a party then!

I am not sure why the process of getting the permanent resident card was so easy for him, but it was.

I cant imagine immigration would turn away bank statements that were not translated, I personally would just print them up and hand them in. And if called on it, I would write in the margins.

Yup, that is what I would do. Actually, what I did in the US when immigration asked for my kids Brazilian birth certificates etc to be translated: I did it myself and attached it to a copy of the original. A certified translator when I speak both languages. Nah.

I do wish all of you the best of luck. Do not let your papers expire, in the States you would be DEPORTED and it would not be pretty. I think Mexico is pretty lenient in letting us simple pay a fine???

Udo - 2-5-2014 at 01:59 PM

Let me U2 the answer, Terry!
Quote:
Originally posted by bajaguy
Udo....do you have your permanent status???

Quote:
Originally posted by Udo
We'll compare notes, Dave.
Even our Mexican attorney called me from La Paz to ask how we got things accomplished so smoothly.

I was going to tell you how e got things accomplished in an e-mail, but I don't have your e-mail address.