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"Be Very Thankful" Dept

DavidE - 11-7-2013 at 06:34 PM

A spritz of reality...


MANILA, Philippines (AP) — One of the most powerful typhoons ever recorded slammed into the Philippines early Friday, and one weather expert warned, "There will be catastrophic damage."

The U.S. Navy's Joint Typhoon Warning Center shortly before Typhoon Haiyan's landfall said its maximum sustained winds were 314 kilometers per hour (195 mph), with gusts up to 379 kilometers per hour (235 mph).

micah202 - 11-7-2013 at 07:25 PM

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...that's just NUTZ!!....may all be well

OUCH !!

captkw - 11-7-2013 at 07:26 PM

BajaBlanca - 11-7-2013 at 07:33 PM

Very sad and yes, I am thankful.

Hola amigos

captkw - 11-7-2013 at 07:59 PM

I just read confirmend gust at 230....Holy --it!!! this planet is a changing....okee dokeee !!

Massive Size!

bryanmckenzie - 11-7-2013 at 09:15 PM



[Edited on 2013-11-8 by bryanmckenzie]

[Edited on 2013-11-8 by bryanmckenzie]

Nappo - 11-8-2013 at 11:46 PM

Was at Cubi Point, Subic Bay in the early 70's protecting all my college buds from Communists when a huge storm hit. All food was cut off - lived off canned food for weeks. Daily we went out (USN) into the town to help with getting people food, water, safety. Amazing what that storm did - can't imagine this one. Many people live right on the water - Unless you've been there it's hard to imagine how these storms change lives in a negative way. Thoughts/prayers go out to all.

durrelllrobert - 11-9-2013 at 10:33 AM

Haiyan expected to hit Vietnam tomorrow and do more damage than the US did while we were there.

DavidE - 11-9-2013 at 12:48 PM

Te reason I posted this is to afford an idea of what could happen if a category 5 hurricane should come north to the peninsula. A category 5 is otherworldly.


So Many Things to Worry About

Gypsy Jan - 11-9-2013 at 01:01 PM

This morning I saw on the news that a Dr. Suzuki presented a report about the after effects of the 9.0 earthquake in Japan that destroyed the nuclear power plant.

He said that the Japanese government is not supervising the clean up and rebuilding - that letting Tokyo Electric, a private, for-profit enterprise take charge of the repairs is akin to the fox supervising the hen house.

He says that another earthquake of that magnitude is a reality and when it happens, the entire west coast of the U.S. would need to be evacuated.

Yikes...that means I'd better attend as many happy hours at Splash! as possible. :biggrin:

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by Gypsy Jan]

DavidE - 11-9-2013 at 01:34 PM

North northern California, Oregon and Washington are said to be vulnerable to a tsunami. From there south, much less so. An undersea landslide is supposed to be the very worst thing that can happen in the creation of a tsunami. Apparently this is not a huge factor. A tsunami that would start out with a 100' potential in Japan would weaken to ten feet or less by the time it reached the west coast of the US. Such is the nature of physics in geology.

Cisco - 11-9-2013 at 02:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
North northern California, Oregon and Washington are said to be vulnerable to a tsunami. From there south, much less so. An undersea landslide is supposed to be the very worst thing that can happen in the creation of a tsunami. Apparently this is not a huge factor. A tsunami that would start out with a 100' potential in Japan would weaken to ten feet or less by the time it reached the west coast of the US. Such is the nature of physics in geology.




http://faculty.gvsu.edu/videticp/waves.htm

west coast

captkw - 11-9-2013 at 03:38 PM

there is a current that comes over from japan in a clockwise pattern that stops midway down Baja and then returns back...I forgot how to spell that beach where you can find all kinds of stuff (malarrimo) any how looks like nick year stuff from japan is going to be floating up onto are beaches in wa,org,ca and BCN...and also add the" pacific ring of fire"yikes"...were Doomed...LOL..:lol:

[Edited on 11-9-2013 by captkw]

Kuroshio current + California Current--> Vizcaino peninsual/Malarrimo beach debris

Whale-ista - 11-9-2013 at 03:50 PM

Yes, at Malarrimo Beach (same name as business in GN) on the Vizcaino peninsula, the Kuroshio current (travels northward from Japan) combines with the long California current to deposit all sorts of things that keep beachcombers and oceanographers busy.

It provides way to track debris that is washed overboard/sunk with shipwrecks and measure the speed/direction of the current.

Most (in)famous case was when a freighter carrying Nike athletic shoes lost a container. The buoyant shoes were used as a reliable way to measure the distance/speed/direction of debris.




Quote:
Originally posted by captkw
there is a current that comes over from japan in a clockwise pattern that stops midway down Baja and then returns back...I forgot how to spell that beach where you can find all kinds of stuff (maraollo) any how looks like nick year stuff from japan is going to be floating up onto are beaches in wa,org,ca and BCN...and also add the" pacific ring of fire"yikes"...were Doomed...LOL..:lol:



[Edited on 11-9-2013 by Whale-ista]

gnukid - 11-10-2013 at 07:42 AM

There seems to be some confusion in the reporting and misquotes with some papers repeating kph for mph and many discrepancies in the reports.

the highest wind reported by the philipines weather service is 235 kph or 147 mph.

http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/tcarchive_files.html

http://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/wb/wbfcst.html

Philipines news reports 150 dead not 10,000

http://anc.yahoo.com/video/ndrrmc-151-dead-due-yolanda-01161...

It's a tragedy but not as bad as some have reported.

O.K. The Wind Blew THIS HARD

DavidE - 11-11-2013 at 03:54 PM

Damn! The B.B.C. Is Soooo Flaky

DavidE - 11-11-2013 at 05:15 PM

Philippine President Benigno Aquino has declared a state of national calamity to speed relief efforts for victims of Typhoon Haiyan.

In a statement, he said the two worst affected provinces, Leyte and Samar, had suffered massive destruction and loss of life.

Thousands of survivors are still desperately waiting for the aid effort to reach them.

At least 10,000 people are feared to have been killed.

Tacloban is one of the worst affected cities. The BBC's Jon Donnison, who is there, says there does not yet seem to be an effective operation to get help to those in need.

This is expected to change over the next few days, he says.

motoged - 11-11-2013 at 10:57 PM

So where is the flakey part?
Quote:
Originally posted by DavidE
Philippine President Benigno Aquino has declared a state of national calamity to speed relief efforts for victims of Typhoon Haiyan.

In a statement, he said the two worst affected provinces, Leyte and Samar, had suffered massive destruction and loss of life.

Thousands of survivors are still desperately waiting for the aid effort to reach them.

At least 10,000 people are feared to have been killed.

Tacloban is one of the worst affected cities. The BBC's Jon Donnison, who is there, says there does not yet seem to be an effective operation to get help to those in need.

This is expected to change over the next few days, he says.

DavidE - 11-12-2013 at 11:28 AM

There isn't any. I was vetting my frustration in the form of sarcasm. I made friends in the Philippines and to see anyone suffer like these folks and then have someone trivialize it just got to me. Sorry. My original intention was and is to show a hurricane is not a hurricane. If a category 5 ever forms and comes north to the peninsula it is time to take drastic action. I do not want to ever see another one.

Mexitron - 11-12-2013 at 11:52 AM

Almost got a Cat 5 with Linda in 1997----was heading towards Abreojos and veered off luckily. Guillermo, another Cat 5 the same year but didn't get close to Baja. Nora crossed the peninsula in 1997 as well somewhere in the Seven Sisters but it had weakened to a Cat 1 or TS by then. Even as a weakened storm we still had steady light winds and rain in San Clemente while the center of Nora went thru Arizona...quite an El Nino year 1997.

Isn't there a large fault just offshore from Seattle....

neilm81301 - 11-12-2013 at 03:22 PM

.. that will cause a giant tsunami when it lets go? & take out the city? Hmmm... better stay on the Spokane side of the mtns...

And then there's that island, in the Azores or Canary's, that's splitting in two. when the West part goes in the tsunami is supposed to wash away most of the East coast.

Too darn much Discovery channel.... Where's the XX, anyway?

Neil

[Edited on 11-12-2013 by neilm81301]

DavidE - 11-12-2013 at 03:59 PM

A tropical storm really screwed up southern California in 1938 (?). Who the hell knows what has hit this peninsula over the centuries? The Percibu Indians did not exactly have a Weather Channel. They and other aborigine couldn't even record events. Somehow I have the feeling that a massive category 5 storm has an infinitely greater chance of happening than a cataclysmic earthquake within the remainder of my lifetime.

It isn't really reassuring when a Mexican president raises taxes, then has the gall to ask for donations to counter the damage of a hurricane. What I'm saying is Baja California Sur (except for the capes) is pretty low priority on the pecking order if a big one ever struck. What gobernacion did for Cancun proves that. No expense was spared to reconstruct turista Quintana Roo after a devastating hurricane hit, but Acapulco Guerrero sucked hind ---- in this year's disaster.

At home during hurricane season I stock up on weeks and weeks worth of food and the water will last me a month if necessary. But here in this arid desolation, that isn't possible. A very vulnerable position for me. In the Philippines, most rural folks live near their garden and rice paddy. Rice paddies need lots of water available. A certain disaster area with lots of rain. Where a level area for growing rice is scarce, villagers live on or near a steep slope.

A bad hurricane would remove a roadway. Not just the asphalt, the base, and everything. Docks and piers would be removed. Foodstocks in the capes would last a week or so (hoarding), then it would be a zoo. How many people down there now? 300,000? Including La Paz...

This isn't some futuristic prognosis for possible effects of an asteroid strike, an eruption of an undiscovered volcano or one in a million earthquake. With the rapidly changing weather patterns, sea surface temperatures can rise to 30C and that means an inevitable food source and path for a real ------- of a hurricane.