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VETERAN'S DAY.......2013

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 08:43 AM

That's today.
Have a good one, my fellow Vets. Everyone else as well.

Thank you all. SALUD

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/generalinfo/a/veteransday.htm

http://tinyurl.com/locklld




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[Edited on 11-11-2013 by DENNIS]

woody with a view - 11-11-2013 at 08:57 AM

Tanks! and Thanks!

watizname - 11-11-2013 at 09:31 AM

OOOOORRRAAAA!!!!!!!!

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 05:40 PM

Terrible response here.
I remember only a few years back that the mention of Veteran's Day would bring an outpouring of support and well wishes from fellow vets and others.
Jose-A...Gene [bless his heart] would always put up the colorful foto of Arlington, and everyone here would offer "thanks for service" sentiments.

But...today....almost nothing.

What has happened? What has changed? Does Baja no longer bring us together as proud and thankful Americans?

I'm still proud and thankful.

woody with a view - 11-11-2013 at 05:48 PM

they all went out for a drink! wait until tomorrow, tomorrow!

elgatoloco - 11-11-2013 at 05:52 PM

Thanks to all the veterans!

Proud and thankful I am!

Justbozo - 11-11-2013 at 05:58 PM

Thanks to all the veterans before me and after!

I'm still amazed that the all volunteer system works!

DanO - 11-11-2013 at 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by elgatoloco
Thanks to all the veterans!

Proud and thankful I am!


Ditto that, and best wishes to the families of those who have served, They carry a heavy load. Watch this. There won't be a dry eye in the house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkGzqpGx1KU

Bajahowodd - 11-11-2013 at 06:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Terrible response here.
I remember only a few years back that the mention of Veteran's Day would bring an outpouring of support and well wishes from fellow vets and others.
Jose-A...Gene [bless his heart] would always put up the colorful foto of Arlington, and everyone here would offer "thanks for service" sentiments.

But...today....almost nothing.

What has happened? What has changed? Does Baja no longer bring us together as proud and thankful Americans?

I'm still proud and thankful.


The American people are tired of constant war. There is a fatigue.

Fact is that WWII was the absolute last righteous war we were involved in.

That said, the many who fought in the subsequent wars, Korea, Viet Nam. Iraq, and Afghanistan, should be lauded for their sacrifice.

But as Ike predicted a long time ago, it is the military- industrial complex that drives out foreign policy. A pity.

So, if you see a lower turnout to celebrate Veterans Day, it is simply because the nation, or rather the people are just tired of war. It is less about honoring those who served. JMHO.

24baja - 11-11-2013 at 06:16 PM

Sorry our response is slow today, just getting around to reading the board. Thank you to all Veterans past and present, you are very much appreciated in our family.

Frank - 11-11-2013 at 06:29 PM

Thank you all, for of your service.

DocRey - 11-11-2013 at 06:34 PM

Happy Veteran's Day one & all. Just back from participating in the ceremony @ Riverside National (CA). Good turnout. A sea of decorated graves. Awesome!

DENNIS - 11-11-2013 at 06:44 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd

The American people are tired of constant war. There is a fatigue.

Fact is that WWII was the absolute last righteous war we were involved in.

That said, the many who fought in the subsequent wars, Korea, Viet Nam. Iraq, and Afghanistan, should be lauded for their sacrifice.

But as Ike predicted a long time ago, it is the military- industrial complex that drives out foreign policy. A pity.

So, if you see a lower turnout to celebrate Veterans Day, it is simply because the nation, or rather the people are just tired of war. It is less about honoring those who served. JMHO.



Veteran's Day is a day to remember, and appreciate....not celebrate.
I'm sorry, Howard, for my inconvenience to your ***king comfort zone. I just happen to think that my months spent in VA mental wards to protect me from myself due to memories that torment me to this day, and have no promise of subsiding, might just warrant a ***king thank you....or SAlUD...or something like that...instead of a disclaimer that you and your kind have heard enough of ailments that men and women have earned fighting for your rights to be an unappreciative a-hole.

Sorry to have bothered you.

It won't happen again.

wessongroup - 11-11-2013 at 06:54 PM

Agree, no celebration here .... but, thanks to those who pulled duty in the military

vgabndo - 11-11-2013 at 07:12 PM

There was a time when people joined the military for reasons other that it being the only possible way a poor person could afford to get a university degree. There was a time when only CONGRESS could declare war. There was even a time when our troops were sent to far-off shores for honorable reasons. That pretty much ended just after I was born 70 years ago. Used to be a man had to do something damned special in combat to be called a hero. These days all they have to do is come home to be called heros. Some of them are!

Mostly, I think, America is seeing young men (mostly) coming home from the GOP WMD SNAFU with every kind of life altering injury and for NOTHING. They are watching these wars now equal the cost of WWII, as we squander money fighting people that Reagan used our taxes to ARM.

I think Americans are too ashamed of how their votes have wasted the lives of so many good young people, and permanently handicapped a hundred thousand more, to be able to look a vet in the eye. He just may be one of the ones who has been waiting for YEARS for the benefits he earned.

To all you brothers in arms: Bless you one and all, from the heros to the pogeybaits! We are the 13%. We stepped up.

I was 18, idealistic, ignorant, and bullet-proof, I got over most of that, and I'm proud of it now.

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capitolkat - 11-11-2013 at 09:36 PM

Thanks to all those who served-- I personally received many greetings from my comrades in arms, we served for various reasons-- all of which were valid for ourselves, love of country, family tradition, adventure, attempting to connect with something more important than ourselves, hoping for growth and a job skill, but we served.

There is no celebration today as I recollect all the young faces, some of whom never came back to loved ones, some who found war too much for their capabilities, and some like me who endured, moved on and remember.

Today is a day of remembrance, anything else should be saved for another day.

vgabndo - 11-11-2013 at 11:48 PM

Dennis, you asked why it was so "quiet" on Veterans Day, I gave you my opinion. You and Kat can be morose if you wish. But today is a day to celebrate and thank veterans, the vast majority of whom did not die. We should be a proud 13%. And we should speak truth to power and defend future veterans from the need to be remembered on MEMORIAL DAY.

Many people confuse Memorial Day and Veterans Day. Memorial Day is a day for remembering and honoring military personnel who died in the service of their country, particularly those who died in battle or as a result of wounds sustained in battle. While those who died are also remembered, Veterans Day is the day set aside to thank and honor ALLthose who served honorably in the military - in wartime or peacetime. In fact, Veterans Day is largely intended to thank LIVING veterans for their service, to acknowledge that their contributions to our national security are appreciated, and to underscore the fact that all those who served - not only those who died - have sacrificed and done their duty. From the Veterans Admin website.

Armistice, Remembrance or Veterans...

Whale-ista - 11-12-2013 at 12:21 AM

Some nations call this "Armistice Day," others "Remembrance Day." US calls it "Veterans Day."

All names are appropriate: we remember the service of many, work for agreements to avert or end battles and casualties, and honor those who served.

I'm trying to post a photo of my dad, in dress blues, escorting my mom to a USMC event. He turned 86 last month; he spent 1944 in Europe and 1953 in Korea. He would have spent 1965 in Vietnam, but after 20 years in the Marines and two combat tours, he retired instead.

He spent today in the hospital battling pneumonia, and is anxious to get home. You can't keep a Marine out of action very long.

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[Edited on 11-12-2013 by Whale-ista]

cabonotcho - 11-12-2013 at 11:49 AM

Sry Im late, was celebrating (make public acknowledgement with enjoyable activity) veterans day as vets should or do w/ a bottle and remembering amigos we served with. Anyway interesting discussion you all were having on Veterans day purpose and meaning. As for me-to the soldiers,airmen,marines you all know you have honor! To the government, big business and oil cos to me your earning shame in the recent thought its ok to waist young lives in pursuit of profit. I would do it again with you all but only for the right reasons-thx,have a blessed day.

Bajahowodd - 11-12-2013 at 06:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DENNIS
Quote:
Originally posted by Bajahowodd

The American people are tired of constant war. There is a fatigue.

Fact is that WWII was the absolute last righteous war we were involved in.

That said, the many who fought in the subsequent wars, Korea, Viet Nam. Iraq, and Afghanistan, should be lauded for their sacrifice.

But as Ike predicted a long time ago, it is the military- industrial complex that drives out foreign policy. A pity.

So, if you see a lower turnout to celebrate Veterans Day, it is simply because the nation, or rather the people are just tired of war. It is less about honoring those who served. JMHO.



Veteran's Day is a day to remember, and appreciate....not celebrate.
I'm sorry, Howard, for my inconvenience to your frickking comfort zone. I just happen to think that my months spent in VA mental wards to protect me from myself due to memories that torment me to this day, and have no promise of subsiding, might just warrant a frickking thank you....or SAlUD...or something like that...instead of a disclaimer that you and your kind have heard enough of ailments that men and women have earned fighting for your rights to be an unappreciative a-hole.

Sorry to have bothered you.

It won't happen again.


My dad was at Normandie. I was rejected for service because I'm partially deaf. Two of my best high school friends who rode with me on the bus for our army physical at Fort Hamilton died in Viet Nam. I wasn't attempting to incite you in any way. I was just suggesting an answer to your question.

bajabuddha - 11-12-2013 at 06:41 PM

Dennis is a classic PTSD hate-filled frustrated Vet, looking for a 'good spoil' any way he can find one. I've noticed his vitriolic ambushes on many a poster here, and i can truly say this, because he reminds me of me. Only i quit 'hating' those who didn't respect what i did or give credence or carity to it. I'm happy nobody's spitting on me... but when finally, almost 40 years after my service i received disability i got 'spat on' by the same frustrated old men with testicles who said ''why didn't we have PTSD in Korea? Why not in WW2?" Well, we did. Audie Murphy kicked the chite out of a few wives, and John Wayne was a draft dodger.

Bajahowodd, we've had words. This time, let me say please, you are fine in your statement. People are tired of war, ESPECIALLY ME. I have people all the time now find out i'm a Vet and say, "thank you for your service". For the Nam? I feel embarrassment, anger, and 'fight or flight' syndrome. I didn't do a FREAKING thing but keep people in my squad alive, and nobody died on my watch, we all came home. Unfortunately, none of us as we used to be. All of us are altered.

Dennis, i urge you to egg your anger at exactly what you just did.... those who DID NOT respond to your CALL OF GLORY. Ghosts. Quit picking on the living. We have enough to deal with. Yours truly, the last point-man of 1st squad, 1st platoon, Charlie Company, 2nd Battalion of the 503rd Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade. FTA all the way, and KMA MF

DENNIS - 11-12-2013 at 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by bajabuddha
Dennis is a classic PTSD hate-filled frustrated Vet, looking for a 'good spoil' any way he can find one. I've noticed his vitriolic ambushes on many a poster here, and i can truly say this, because he reminds me of me. Only i quit 'hating' those who didn't respect what i did or give credence or carity to it. I'm happy nobody's spitting on me... but when finally, almost 40 years after my service i received disability i got 'spat on' by the same frustrated old men with testicles who said ''why didn't we have PTSD in Korea? Why not in WW2?" Well, we did. Audie Murphy kicked the chite out of a few wives, and John Wayne was a draft dodger.

Bajahowodd, we've had words. This time, let me say please, you are fine in your statement. People are tired of war, ESPECIALLY ME. I have people all the time now find out i'm a Vet and say, "thank you for your service". For the Nam? I feel embarrassment, anger, and 'fight or flight' syndrome. I didn't do a FREAKING thing but keep people in my squad alive, and nobody died on my watch, we all came home. Unfortunately, none of us as we used to be. All of us are altered.

Dennis, i urge you to egg your anger at exactly what you just did.... those who DID NOT respond to your CALL OF GLORY. Ghosts. Quit picking on the living. We have enough to deal with. Yours truly, the last point-man of 1st squad, 1st platoon, Charlie Company, 2nd Battalion of the 503rd Regiment, 173rd Airborne Brigade. FTA all the way, and KMA MF



Thanks for your impressive service.
That said, and I mean that...I don't want you, or anyone else, scolding me for my feelings, or telling me how to conduct myself with this issue.
Do what you do and I'll do the same.

bajabuddha - 11-12-2013 at 07:02 PM

Ditto, fair enough. And welcome home, ya crusty ol' bucket.