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Fish/meat smoker

larryC - 11-19-2013 at 08:43 AM

I want to make a smoker, and I want it to have slide in racks and a separate fire box from where the meat and fish are being smoked. Anyone have pics or plans for a smoker? I am thinking something like a 55 gallon drum size that I could smoke a turkey or 2 if I wanted.
Larry

Bwana_John - 11-19-2013 at 08:56 AM

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I want to make a smoker, and I want it to have slide in racks and a separate fire box

I have seen old refrigerators used quite well as indirect smokers.

Oggie - 11-19-2013 at 09:11 AM

Larry,

Here is a link:http://youtu.be/xHJlBLYGNcs

MMc - 11-19-2013 at 09:14 AM

Here are a couple of ideas.
http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/95411/custom-smoker-build...

There are many forums on smokers and smoking.

chuckie - 11-19-2013 at 09:40 AM

Frig is the best answer..#We built 2 of them, one had an electric heater and the other one was indirect...fire pit down hill, flue underground to bottom of frig..small adjustable vent on top of fridge to create a draw..good luck have fun

Pompano - 11-19-2013 at 10:05 AM

larryC, how mobile do you need it to be? Here's another thought for you.

I have a hunting buddy who's pretty handy with metal fabrication...his hobby is restoring old John Deere tractors (and other makes, too). Many years ago, he and I made a very efficient portable smoker which we have used for countless cookouts with pheasants, turkeys, geese, ducks, venison, elk, moose...you name it, we've smoked and barbequed it. We can do about a dozen big turkeys at a time.

Best part for us, we could trailer it to wherever we wanted...family reunions, harvest roundups, fairs, rodeos, Sturgis Rally, etc. Tows nice behind my pickup. We use charcoal rather then gas.

We knew what we wanted and just built it...was good hard fun. Our cost was low because we mostly just used what we had laying around the ranch. And...it was a long time ago...1978. Present retail prices will run the bill up there a ways, I'm afraid.

Improvising from your own thoughts are always the best....or as you may have already done, just google for a world of plans to get you started. You'll soon see where to begin.


here's an example

http://bbq.about.com/od/customsmokers/a/aa052904a.htm





Nothing wrong with making a nice frig-smoker either...done a couple over the years and put them to very good use. Kind of hard to move these days, though. Be careful with those if you have kids around a lot. I used an old Servel fridge as a smoker for many years at Coyote Bay. Found it at the Conception Bay-Posada dump and 'recycled' it. Hah! I got even with many barracuda by smoking 'em.

Cypress - 11-19-2013 at 10:31 AM

The old frig-smoker works great. You can add more racks to increase smoking capacity. Have had 'em with indirect heat, but by far the easiest way to go is to use a couple of electric hot plates inside the refrigerator.:)

chuckie - 11-19-2013 at 11:09 AM

Ditto that..our electric one got used WAY more than the indirect one

durrelllrobert - 11-19-2013 at 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by chuckie
Frig is the best answer..#We built 2 of them, one had an electric heater and the other one was indirect...fire pit down hill, flue underground to bottom of frig..small adjustable vent on top of fridge to create a draw..good luck have fun


When I lived at Half Moon Bay and was catching a lot of salmon I also built one using an old, all metal refrg with a plastic 3" gate valve on the top to regulate the exhaust. For the wood burning fire box a used a 55 gal drum split lengthwise and then hinged together. This was connected to the bottom of the frig with a 5" diam. stove pipe/ elbow that was 6 ft. long to assure a cold smoke. With 4 shelves in the frig I could smoke 8 large salmon fillets at a time in about 4 hours.

monoloco - 11-19-2013 at 03:14 PM

I have a friend in Punta Chivato that has one made out of plywood, with chicken wire racks that he has been using for 25 years. I have eaten a lot of great smoked fish from that smoker. It can be disassembled and laid flat. The main thing you want is a lot of racks and a way to make smoke without the smoker becoming too hot inside.

[Edited on 11-19-2013 by monoloco]

mulegemichael - 11-19-2013 at 03:36 PM

i made one out of a commercial stainless steel fridge back in the mid eighties...fired it with a little pan of charcoal briquets with a chunk of alder on top..could put about 100 lbs of salmon in it at a time...then...my bride bought me a digital mastercraft stainless smoker last year and i've never looked back...even has a remote control so i can set the heat from my barka lounger!...just finished a full load of coho yesterday and we're canning them up today...i can hear the hissing of the pressure cooker from my office...nothing like slow smoked salmon!

chuckie - 11-19-2013 at 04:30 PM

Bring some

larryC - 11-19-2013 at 05:55 PM

Lots of good ideas, thank you. I need to keep this smoker kinda portable. I'm thinking of a drum mounted on a metal frame with wheels. Something I can wheel around and put away when I am gone. Electric is not an option 'cause I am off grid. My solar system is robust but there are limits. I am leaning towards propane as a heat source and maybe a cast iron fry pan to hold some mesquite chunks over the burner. I enjoy metal fabrication and I have a pretty good selection of tools down here to choose from, mig welder, plasma cutter, etc.
I see some plans using a 55 gallon drum where the fire box is under the drum and I see others where the fire box is at one end of the drum. I could build either one but which one is better? I am guessing that the one with the fire box on the bottom would be more like a smoker/BBQ cooker and may be hotter than I would want for a smoker. Any thoughts?

Bwana_John - 11-19-2013 at 07:56 PM

I knew a packer in the Sierra Nevada who had a set of panniers for his mule that made into a very nice indirect smoker.

MMc - 11-19-2013 at 08:02 PM

Propane is the way to go, a cast iron pan over a burner are great. A side box will give you heat and smoke. If you go with fire box on one end make sure the chimney is at the other.
Also look at a reverse flow. They give a great smoke.
http://www.smokingmeatforums.com/t/76817/new-build-trailer-m...
You can figure it out from here.
I smoked on a Webber for years everybody enjoyed it. A gas powered is much easier to control. Temp should be at the cooking level not the top of the smoker.
I find mesquite way to harsh to use. Your mileage may very

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captkw - 11-20-2013 at 04:07 AM

there are two basic types of smokers..direct hot and indirect aka "cold" smokers which are by nature rather large systems......

vandenberg - 11-20-2013 at 08:22 AM

Years ago I made one out of a kitchen cabinet.
Couple of holes drilled on the top sides and using a simple hotplate.
Worked especially good for smaller fish, like trout, kokanee and steelhead.
Almost any enclosed item can be made into a smoker.
Takes a little imagination.

Bob53 - 2-26-2014 at 06:44 PM

Hi Larry, I have sheet metal fabrication shop in Escondido. I would be willing to help with your project if you haven't already finished it. I too am wanting to build a smoker. We could make two.

churro - 2-26-2014 at 08:15 PM

I have a smoker with a water pan. There is a pan at the bottom of the unit you can put beer or fruit juice between the coal and the meat, it gives the meat extra flavor and the meat stays moist... I like the wet smoker much more than the dry smoker... If I were building a smoker, i would put a water pan in it.

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by churro]

rts551 - 2-26-2014 at 08:25 PM

We have used old friges....but it is harder to find the old metal ones...and I don't think a plastic one would be ideal, even if "cold" smoking.

vgabndo - 2-26-2014 at 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by churro
I have a smoker with a water pan. There is a pan at the bottom of the unit you can put beer or fruit juice between the coal and the meat, it gives the meat extra flavor and the meat stays moist... I like the wet smoker much more than the dry smoker... If I were building a smoker, i would put a water pan in it.

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by churro]


I just did four nice Bonito fillets on my wet smoker this morning. It looks good enough to eat.:lol: Succulent, and with a nice 'bite'.

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larryC - 2-27-2014 at 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by Bob53
Hi Larry, I have sheet metal fabrication shop in Escondido. I would be willing to help with your project if you haven't already finished it. I too am wanting to build a smoker. We could make two.


Bob
Darn, where were you 2 months ago. I just finished this smoker again. Had a few design changes, but am ready to try it out now. I have some fish that should be ready to smoke in a day or 2 after they sit in some brown sugar a little longer. Maybe we can still collaborate on another one. I'll post some pictures of this one soon.
Larry
Larry

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captkw - 2-27-2014 at 08:16 AM

Use a LOT less salt than you think !!! do you want smoked fish or salted fish ?? most folks read some fools smoking gig and use so much SALT that you need to soak in water before you can chew it...smoked correctly will not need much salt...or try terryaki and brown sugar with NO salt !! !!!!!....PS.. indirect/cold or direct/hot faster...your choice and time

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by captkw]

monoloco - 2-27-2014 at 08:56 AM

I'd be interested in what others are using for their brine recipes. I usually do a dry brine with 6 parts brown sugar to one part kosher salt. I cover the filets with it and leave it about 8-10 hours then rinse them off and place them on the rack and sprinkle red pepper flakes and ground coriander on them, then let them dry for 2-3 hours with a fan blowing on them before placing them in the smoker.

willardguy - 2-27-2014 at 09:38 AM

admittedly not a culinary artist, gallon of kikkoman from smart and final and a box of brown sugar, im good to go.

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captkw - 2-27-2014 at 11:31 AM

Myself like to cut the fish into 1 1/2 strips and add dry red chili peppers..seems to smoke very even and you can always brush off the pepper seeds with a brush for the kids..does not make the fish/meat HOT !! just adds a bit of Good stuff...IMO brine needs very little salt and Kikkoman or terriaki works just fine....Most guys use WAY too much salt and waste and good chunk of fish IMO !! ....K&T:cool:

wessongroup - 2-27-2014 at 12:17 PM

mono ... that is some "brine"

the old man used to smoke a lot of fish ... but, sadly I never really watched him in the preparation phase .. just had to keep the wood on the fire for days

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by wessongroup]

baconjr - 2-27-2014 at 01:11 PM

Agricultural Extension Schools to the rescue. Pictures, plans and written instructions. http://animalscience.uconn.edu/extension/publications/build_...

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baconjr - 2-27-2014 at 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by vgabndo
Quote:
Originally posted by churro
I have a smoker with a water pan. There is a pan at the bottom of the unit you can put beer or fruit juice between the coal and the meat, it gives the meat extra flavor and the meat stays moist... I like the wet smoker much more than the dry smoker... If I were building a smoker, i would put a water pan in it.

[Edited on 2-27-2014 by churro]


I just did four nice Bonito fillets on my wet smoker this morning. It looks good enough to eat.:lol: Succulent, and with a nice 'bite'.

What was the temperature of your smoker?

larryC - 3-2-2014 at 08:12 AM

Here are some photos of the semi finished smoker. The racks are welded aluminum, and slide in and out for ease of cleaning. The heat box underneath is an old aluminum fuel tank that I took out of my truck a few years ago. In the heat box is a small, and as it turns out, too small 2 burner stove.
The frame is 1" square tube. I brought down 60' of it and used 55'. The tubes in the bottom of the drum are for drainage and dump into a small plastic jar.






I did a batch of fish yesterday and it came out pretty good. I took CaptKW's advice and didn't use too much salt. I think I need a larger burner 'cause I had trouble getting the temperature above 180. Once I get a larger burner I am going to try a turkey and maybe a prime rib roast.
Larry

woody with a view - 3-2-2014 at 08:17 AM

very nice!

watizname - 3-2-2014 at 09:17 AM

Used to smoke a lot of fish. Hardest part was getting it lit. :tumble:

larryC - 3-2-2014 at 09:58 AM

You gotta use the right paper.

mtnpop - 3-2-2014 at 10:31 AM

Just in case anyone is still looking at building their own smoker..

June 2012 popular mechanics has a vertical drum smoker plan with materials list and pictures.. its made with a 55 gallon drum but could probably be downsized to a 30 gallon..
I think you can go to www.popularmechanics.com and find it... If not send me a note and I will try to scan and send a copy to you.. not sure the magazine pages will scan well...