I would like to know how much the cost of living in Baja (specifically Mulege) has gone up since 2008. Is there anyone who can give me some info or
advice on how to calculate this?
Thanks!bajadock - 12-3-2013 at 04:05 PM
In 2008, a case of Pacifico Ballenas(12 x 960ml) cost 182 pesos. Today, that case is 240 pesos. That's a 31.8% increase on a valued commodity.motoged - 12-3-2013 at 04:38 PM
Some years ago when starting to sniff around as to how to spend more time in Baja.....a Mulege ex-pat indicated that greatest costs were gas and booze
....so if you don't drink or drive/fish, then it is certainly less expensive.
Well....I don't fish..... msteve1014 - 12-3-2013 at 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by bajadock
In 2008, a case of Pacifico Ballenas(12 x 960ml) cost 182 pesos. Today, that case is 240 pesos. That's a 31.8% increase on a valued commodity.
That's all I need to know.chuckie - 12-3-2013 at 06:21 PM
Much higher, no stats but with the subsidy on gas removed and the the addtional 5% Vat, soon, its getting to where I am rethinking my options...vandy - 12-3-2013 at 06:54 PM
Gas was $2.66/gallon in June, 2008
BUT
Real estate is a little cheaper now...Russ - 12-3-2013 at 07:02 PM
Mulege municipality is awfully .... well, I just better not write what I'm thinking. There are a lot of things going on that are good and most of
these start and if completed are because of individuals taking charge. A lot of places in Mexico have figured out that the donkey actually belongs in
front of the cart Mulege seems to be working on that concept. It can be frustrating.
That being said, I still choose to live here. I like these back woods. Just a little more costly to live here.MitchMan - 12-4-2013 at 09:11 AM
Certain things...most things have gone up in price. Certainly building materials, food, restaurant prices, and gasoline. In 2008, regular gas was
about 7 pesos per liter, now it's close to 12 pesos per liter I think.
Really, the major things that can be very cheap in Baja are real estate and cost of labor. The rest of the savings is in trading in your expensive
American taste for a lower cost Mexican life style. You have to be willing to do that or you will not experience any savings at all.
For example, you can spend hundreds of thousands of dollars if you go to a real estate agent in town to buy a beach front/resort type residence in a
tourist enclave (very little if any savings there) and go out to eat and drink to the nicer places for just about every meal, drive a late model gas
guzzling truck or giant SUV. Again, no savings there.
But, if you cook for yourself mostly and eat at home, buy a home that you come by referral from locals slightly in-land in a Mexican neighborhood, and
get one of those small economical cars and be practical about your utility usage and what you do for entertainment, well, you can live very
economically, much more than in the USA.
If you own your own 1,000 sq ft home in Baja and you don't have expensive medical costs, one person can live on $600 USD/month, a couple living
together can live on $900 USD per month and that includes everything: food, clothes, health ins, property tax, gasoline, auto ins, clothing, utilities
(plenty of a/c usage), internet, TV, phone, auto and home maintenance, haircuts, annual fideicomiso fee, annual Visa renewal (Residente Temporal), and
other incidentals. Entertainment, Restaurants, and travel would be extra.
Life style choices can triple your living costs or save you thousands.
To Mitchman
cessna821 - 12-4-2013 at 10:29 AM
Nice reply, when in Mexico do as the Mexicans do, don't try to export life styles.
Exchange rates blur the situation a little,
2003 8.5 pesos to the $, 2013 13.05 pesos to the $.apple - 12-4-2013 at 04:28 PM
are you buying those cases at your local Modelorama? I usually just exchange two or four for 25 pesos a piece. Maybe I should be buying by the case...bajadock - 12-4-2013 at 05:01 PM
Apple, yes, I purchase Pacifico Ballenas by the case of 12 at the Modelo Agency store, across from Comercial Mex on south Reforma/Mex 1. I stock 2
cases at a time, in case of thirsty invaders.
Ballast Point, New Belgium Brewery, Pilsner Urquell, Bohemia, Negra Modelo and other specialty brews are kept in a separate frig for VIPs.
Great news is that the TJ and Ensenada micro brew markets are expanding quickly, despite the protests of Grupo Modelo and Cuauhtémoc-Moctezuma.dpwahoo - 12-4-2013 at 05:02 PM
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are you buying those cases at your local Modelorama? I usually just exchange two or four for 25 pesos a piece. Maybe I should be buying by the case...
Case of Pacificos at costco,24 bottles, right around 230 pesos.pauldavidmena - 12-4-2013 at 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by msteve1014
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Originally posted by bajadock
In 2008, a case of Pacifico Ballenas(12 x 960ml) cost 182 pesos. Today, that case is 240 pesos. That's a 31.8% increase on a valued commodity.
That's all I need to know.
chuckie - 12-4-2013 at 06:18 PM
Is this about beer?Pompano - 12-4-2013 at 06:33 PM
The cost of living has risen in Baja/Mulege. Considerably since I first kept a record of daily expenses back in the 70's. I had to give it up. You
can afford it...if you don't look.
I would think that since 2008, food costs alone have risen about 18%, which would make that figure a fairly good ruler for everything else. Hope
that helps.
[Edited on 12-5-2013 by Pompano]bajadock - 12-4-2013 at 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by chuckie
Is this about beer?
For me, beer is a major food group. I also like to compare cost of living in other countries by tying costs to common things like a cup of coffee or
a pint of beer.
Roger,
That Mex site is a bad one....at least for my computer....caught by my virus program.....seems to be a viagra site....
[Edited on 12-5-2013 by motoged]Pompano - 12-4-2013 at 07:07 PM
Thanks for the heads-up...I'll edit it out..just to be safe.
p.s. I grow my own Viagra.
[Edited on 12-5-2013 by Pompano]motoged - 12-4-2013 at 10:32 PM
Maybe my computer has a better sense of what urls I should be visiting Mexitron - 12-4-2013 at 10:40 PM
I still remember a trip in 1986 or so---we paid 2.40 US a case for Pacifico, 25 cents a gal. for regular gas, 10 cents a can for salsa, etc.,etc.
Our trip to the Sisters and GN for 5 days cost my buddy and me less than 100 US---and we drank a lot of beer! Lot of inflation since those days.vandy - 12-5-2013 at 06:55 AM
Please stop, Mexitron!
I, too, remember 19 cents per bottle Corona/Pacifico...for years in the 80s.
Gas was about 66 cents per gallon...
If you could exchange dollars, the horrible peso inflation made for other savings.
I'd say Mexico was a true cheapskate's paradise until about 1996 when the dirt pimps started coming down in force and the idiots with more dollars
than cents flocked down, feeling more secure from info on the internet, reservations and such.
I chose 1996 because that's the year I saw my first middle-aged tourist, complete with black knee-socks and sandals, on Isla Mujeres.
He happened to be form my college town, and told me when I asked, "Oh, I found it on the Internet".
I knew Mexico was doomed, and watched as my hotel went from $6 per night to $12, then $24 in three years.
I came back to Baja, where it's still possible to camp near the beach.
Back to the original post:
It now costs more to live in Baja than Phoenix, AZ, if you rent.
PHX has way cheaper groceries, gas, utilities and beer.
But you don't see me hanging around in Phoenix!Jonno_aus - 12-5-2013 at 07:47 AM
I haven't been to La Paz in a few years. What's the going rate for a taco de pescado at Taco Fish La Paz?
And is the guy still selling his famous birria(sp) on - I think - Republica? Think it was accross from that little coffee/cafe shop?
Jonno.dtbushpilot - 12-5-2013 at 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by motoged
Maybe my computer has a better sense of what urls I should be visiting
If that were the case it would have let you open the link
[Edited on 12-5-2013 by dtbushpilot]MitchMan - 12-5-2013 at 08:11 AM
Generally speaking, if you know how to live modestly, do your own cooking, don't have entertainment requirements that include concerts and tickets to
expensive sporting events and have only modest medical needs and/or you are on Medicare, there are probably many places in the USA that have really
low costing real estate where the then cost of living would be quite comparable to living in the Baja.
My question is, where else in the western world is there inexpensive access to quality healthcare and comparable low cost of living?Jonno_aus - 12-5-2013 at 04:39 PM
Australia for the first part, Mitch.
Indonesia or Malaysia for the 2nd.
Although if Tacos Del Sur still have great tacos de pastor for 12 pesos, I might rethink the 2nd one. Jonno_aus - 12-5-2013 at 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Jonno_aus
I haven't been to La Paz in a few years. What's the going rate for a taco de pescado at Taco Fish La Paz?
And is the guy still selling his famous birria(sp) on - I think - Republica? Think it was accross from that little coffee/cafe shop?
Jonno.
Birria guy was on calle Madero near the bottle shop. Best Birria this side of the Sydney Harbour Bridge. DavidE - 12-9-2013 at 01:38 PM
1988, 525 pesos liter for Extra gasoline. Dollars Pesos was at 2,240
I believe things are going to get a lot tighter. Hacienda with a database is deadlier than Al Fatah, Black September and Allah's Disciple's of Al
Qaeda all mixed together.
The PRI was voted out in 2000. In order to play catch up they are going to have to immerse their claws in a veritable niagara falls of cash inflowing
the treasury. IOW you ain't seen nothin' yet.
